Lightroom :: Softproof To ARGB Or SRGB - Resulting Proof Crushes Dark Tones Into Solid Black
Apr 2, 2014
When I am going through RAW files from my Canon cameras (1Ds MkIII and 6D) I edit them in the develop module and then convert to aRGB or sRGB depending on the output media. They look good in aRGB and sRGB too when I take into account the limitations of sRGB.
---> However, if I try the softproof to aRGB or sRGB the resulting proof crushes dark tones into solid black. Why is this when the actual conversions are way better? The actual conversions look good in both LR and PS CS5.
I have also noticed that when I upload images to my online galleries and view them with Firefox (latest version and color management enabled for all rendered graphics) they appear darker in the darkest tones than what they appear in LR. What gives?
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I am using LR 5.3, no updates suggested by the softwareWindows 8.1 clean installThe computer is a new one, fast processor, 32 gigs ram etc.Eizo CX270 hardware calibrated (16-bit internal LUT) with the Spyder 4 in ColorNavigator 6 software.The issue has always been like this
I have calibrated my monitor (IIyama VisionMaster Pro 454), scanner (Epson 2450 with Silverfast) and printer (Canon i950) so that I get prints that resemble as good and bad as possible what I scan/ see on the monitor. I normally work in Adobe RGB, but I also do some webwork. Which is why I also preview in sRGB or even Monitor RGB.
I would like to use Proof Setup to view my files default in sRGB, but whatever I do, Photoshop always opens default with CMYK. I tried Custom, choose sRGB and then save, but that does not change Photoshop's CMYK obsession.
I know one can easily change the sizes of the New documents by opening the text file that contains them. So I was wondering whether there was also a method/trick to change this default proof/CMYK setting.
When I export RAW files, specifying that I want the output to be in sRGB color space the resulting files have the Adobe RGB color space. The same is true if I specify I want them in ProPhoto. Is this a bug? I have done it successfully in other versions of Lightroom, but not in 4.3.
Running LR 4.3 under Windows 7. The softproof button does not show. Pressing "S" key gives proof review, but no way to change profile. Image name shows where instructions say softproof button should be.
I scanned a black and white print in color and am trying to replace all the black with dark green. Been trying for hours in elements 9. This is all so hard. Just to ask this question I have typed it into 3 different screens, set screenname, many other hurdles.
When I soft proof an image in Lightroom (5) and in Photoshop (CS6) on my external display there is a noticeable difference between the two proofs.
This is the case both with "simulate paper & ink" on and off (with matching settings in both applications) and with a variety of different profiles being used. On my laptop screen the proofs always match (between Photoshop and Lightroom).
On the external display with soft proofing off there is an exact match between images in LR and PS. With soft proofing on saturated areas of images (particularly reds, greens and yellows) become noticeably less saturated and blocked up in LR as compared to PS. Subdued colours appear to match. It's almost like they are both using the same profile but Lightroom is squashing it into a smaller gamut. I'm fairly sure PS is correct and LR is the one with something going wrong.
I'd like to sort it as I'd prefer to soft proof in Lightroom as that's where I print from. I've read up a lot on colour management and can't find a solution.
(I'm on a Macbook pro running 10.8.4 and the external display is an NEC Spectraview 271 (euro version of PA271W), the display is calibrated and profiled with Spectraview 5, with an i1 Display Pro. Working space in PS is Prophoto RGB and it's set to preserve embedded profiles. I've checked with various test images but mostly been using Bill Atkinon's printer test image. I set up the image in LR and PS to match on screen position and with the same colour (white) background, I can then flick back and forth and there should be no change but there is and it's very obvious.)
1st attempt: Imagine that you have two colors, red and black, and you want to mix 10 drops of red with 3 drops of black. You get a specific color - a weird dark red. Now imagine I have a image with only that solid color and I want to replace those 3 drops of black with three drops of white. How can I do that?
2nd attempt: Normal A4 sheets are white, but I want to print a image (with no white or light colors) on a black sheet of paper. I don't need to use a black cartridge, because the black is already there in the paper sheet. How can I remove the "black tones" in order to get proper colors when printing?
All this to answer one bottom question, which is also my 3rd attempt on this:
3rd attempt: I have access to a modified printer that has white ink on the black ink cartridge; that way, If I write a few words in black and print them out on a black sheet of paper, I'll have a white text. This is very simple if I want only to print text; set font color to black and print, ending with a white text printout. But what if I have a photograph, for example, and I want to print it on a black sheet? If I have a white boat, for example, its' color has to be changed to black. If I want to print a light green, I have to have a dark green on my image. Is there any way to do this?
I recently changed pc and monitor causing a damn problem with those color spaces! My monitor is a Dell u2412m and by default it's setted on:
Now when I open a RAW file with ACR and choose sRGB as color space the result is this:As you can see, most of the photo presents black shadows. If I save the file and I open it with windows image it's perfect. Indeed, if I choose ProPhoto for monitor and for the photo the visualization is fine:
I must change the color space in sRGB or even RGB before save the final image so I really would like to se a real preview of it in photoshop instead of saving it first. So the problem occurs when I save to RGB (less artifacts) and sRGB (lots of artifacts!). I can't understand this because I'm using the same color space as default for my monitor.
The pc configuration is:Intel i7 3770 Ati HD7870 driver Ati 12.11 beta RAM 16gb
I am experiencing the problem in CS6 described here:
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However, the file provided by Adobe as a solution is an empty text file. Is this a mistake? I followed the instructions but it did not fix the issue. I'm guessing that the text file provided needs to contain some data.
I have been faced with an almost identical problem listed here URL....The only thing that changes it from complete blackness is the "Ambience" value. I've done all software and hardware updates, reinstalled the graphics card driver, and restarted a multitude of times. I am using:
Dell Optiplex 390 Intel(R) HD Graphics 2000 Windows 7 64 bit Photoshop CC No Color Management No plug-ins, or anything other than default PS settings
I used Lighting Effects on Photoshop CS3 and CS6 for almost two years on this machine with no problem. This was the first time I had tried to use it since I upgraded to CC. I uninstalled all other versions of PS when I upgraded, so I have not tried to replicate the problem in older versions.
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