Lightroom :: Softproof In Photoshop On External Display Not Matching
Sep 5, 2013
When I soft proof an image in Lightroom (5) and in Photoshop (CS6) on my external display there is a noticeable difference between the two proofs.
This is the case both with "simulate paper & ink" on and off (with matching settings in both applications) and with a variety of different profiles being used. On my laptop screen the proofs always match (between Photoshop and Lightroom).
On the external display with soft proofing off there is an exact match between images in LR and PS. With soft proofing on saturated areas of images (particularly reds, greens and yellows) become noticeably less saturated and blocked up in LR as compared to PS. Subdued colours appear to match. It's almost like they are both using the same profile but Lightroom is squashing it into a smaller gamut. I'm fairly sure PS is correct and LR is the one with something going wrong.
I'd like to sort it as I'd prefer to soft proof in Lightroom as that's where I print from. I've read up a lot on colour management and can't find a solution.
(I'm on a Macbook pro running 10.8.4 and the external display is an NEC Spectraview 271 (euro version of PA271W), the display is calibrated and profiled with Spectraview 5, with an i1 Display Pro. Working space in PS is Prophoto RGB and it's set to preserve embedded profiles. I've checked with various test images but mostly been using Bill Atkinon's printer test image. I set up the image in LR and PS to match on screen position and with the same colour (white) background, I can then flick back and forth and there should be no change but there is and it's very obvious.)
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Running LR 4.3 under Windows 7. The softproof button does not show. Pressing "S" key gives proof review, but no way to change profile. Image name shows where instructions say softproof button should be.
When I am going through RAW files from my Canon cameras (1Ds MkIII and 6D) I edit them in the develop module and then convert to aRGB or sRGB depending on the output media. They look good in aRGB and sRGB too when I take into account the limitations of sRGB.
---> However, if I try the softproof to aRGB or sRGB the resulting proof crushes dark tones into solid black. Why is this when the actual conversions are way better? The actual conversions look good in both LR and PS CS5.
I have also noticed that when I upload images to my online galleries and view them with Firefox (latest version and color management enabled for all rendered graphics) they appear darker in the darkest tones than what they appear in LR. What gives?
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I am using LR 5.3, no updates suggested by the softwareWindows 8.1 clean installThe computer is a new one, fast processor, 32 gigs ram etc.Eizo CX270 hardware calibrated (16-bit internal LUT) with the Spyder 4 in ColorNavigator 6 software.The issue has always been like this
Context - I am brand new to the graphic design business and working with a friend to create a logo for their new business. The logo will be used for web and print purposes.
I am having an issue where the colors used while in the CorelDraw application are not matching the exported files or what comes off the printer. Printer - HP officejet 6500 - using this for a checkpoint only, will not use for actual printing
I created the logo using CMYK color palette and used the default settings in Corel as far as color management goes...It is U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2. The application is still in an "out of the box" state as I am too new to know how to change anything.
So, that said...the image looks great in the application. I exported several proof files for my friend, but see now that I used RGB for the export. He loves the design and I am ready to deliver his files. Those RGB files "look" fine when opened as jpeg or png, but when printed they are completely different.
I've read that it is important to deliver CMYK files as well as RGB files. So, I attempted to export with that color style thinking it might fix that problem, since I created the image using that palette. When I try to export using CMYK though, the color goes absolutely whacko. Viewing on the computer, the muted green (20.0.60.20) turns into a neon green...and it prints that way as well.
I know computer monitors have variations, but if I see it in the application one way, viewing the exported file on the same computer monitor shouldn't pose an issue.
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As I mentioned earlier, I also use lightroom as well. This too is located on my external monitor this should not be an issue either correct?
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1)When I view the same raw file with both Lightroom 2 & Photoshop CS3 the PS version is darker with a slight colour shift. All metadata synchronised & ACR 4.5
2) When I export a photo (from LR)as TIFF (with profile) this same photo viewed on both PS and LR shows the same difference as 1 above. When same photo viewed with ADC pro, result matches LR not PS.
3) When I print photo (as TIFF above) with PS & LR the prints from both match the LR display and not PS's
I use a calibrated display.
What is the problem here anyone? Does PS use display profile differently from LR? which is correct?
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Me and my team are shooting weddings. We have Nikon D3s, Nikon D3, 2x Canon 5D mk III, Canon 1D mk 3, Canon 5D mk II with 17 lenses and I'm in the middle of the process of matching their colors so when we shoot together I don't go crazy trying to match the white balance between all the cameras in Lightroom.
The issue I have is that I managed to make all the colors, contrast, saturation and brightness for all cameras and lenses on daylight shots identical (with minimal differences) but shots under 2800k light are very different.
I bought a 24 patch color checker and took photos with all cameras - once with a 2800k halogen lamp and then with a 5500k strobe (Nikon SB-800 @ 1/16 power). I shot in RAW. The exposures are good - no blown highlights or unexposed parts. In Camera raw I applied the "Camera neutral" color profile for all cameras. I exported the shots in DNG. For each camera and lens I imported the halogen and flash lit file into DNG Profile editor.In the chart section I created a color table for the "2850 K only" halogen lit shot and then for the flash lit shot choosing "6500 K only".
So far so good. The colors are good but to achieve them for the different cameras or lenses I need to input different color temperatures and tint. What I want is to set identical color temperature for all photos (say 5500k) and to get identical colors regardless of camera or lens.
So the next step I took to get at least the daylight shots identical is to play with the "White balance calibration" under the "Color matrices" tab. For instance - DNG Profile editor determines that the flash shot should be set to 6050k +8 tint. I move the "white balance calibration" sliders until I reach the numbers I want above the flash shot (5500k). Because the colors shift I press the "Create color table" button again. My goal is to show the program that I want these (calibrated) colors to be achieved at 5500k +0 tint and not 6050k +8 tint. I get the result I want but that affects the 2850k shot. If I readjust the "white balance calibration" sliders for the 2850k shot and use "create color table" again, that ruins the 6500k adjustment.
So using this workflow I get either the daylight shots right or the tungsten lit shots, but not both.
So in short my question is - How do I create proper profiles that produce identical colors among all cameras and lenses under all white balance settings?
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