Photoshop :: Color Management ICC Profiles On External Display
Feb 14, 2013
I have an asus laptop running windows 7. I currently have Photoshop cs5.1 extended as well as lightroom3. I just purchased an external monitor (wide Gamut Asus PA246q) I do most of my editing and corrections on this monitor. I use the spyder4pro for calibration software on both my external and laptop monitor. I know the laptop monitor is not a great editing monitor, but I calibrated it anyway. Realizing its limitations, I use the external monitor for all use in Photoshop. My laptop display is set up as my “main display” in windows 7 and with my Nvidia GeForce GTX 560m card.
When running Photoshop cs5 on my external monitor, if I look under the color settings in my working color space, it lists the monitor RGB profile as my laptop display. Does this mean that my external monitor is using the laptop profile? Some say yes, others no… if this is the case is there any way to fix this other that making my external display my “primary display”? I haven’t noticed the external monitor to have any color shifts or inaccurate colors, but I want to be sure Photoshop is correctly choosing the external monitors profile and outputting accurate colors.
As I mentioned earlier, I also use lightroom as well. This too is located on my external monitor this should not be an issue either correct?
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Feb 9, 2012
IThis was pulled from the Mac forum (URl....), however I am having the exact same problem on a PC running CS5.
When I "let go" of the "work area" window on the LCD monitor it rather visibly changes the color tonality (so much so that white turns yellow). When I release the image, why is Photoshop altering the color space - when other programs display evenly across the monitors? Am I to assume that releasing the image triggers the second monitors profile? Maybe I simply need to use the same profile for both monitors (which would be strange because this was a problem before I assigned any, and is still a problem after running calibration)?
I've been using Photoshop for years and never encountered this before, however this is the first time I've added a LCD monitor into the mix, as my old Viewsonic finally died. I will be replacing the other monitor with a LCD in the near future, it will be interesting to see if the problem magically resolves (assuming I can't figure it out in the meantime)
It would have made more sense to simply be able to flag a post as pertaining to both operating systems, and thereby have it appear in both threads. That way you're not burdening everyone with threads that do not apply, and you're not losing all of the old threads (which are now read-only for some reason).
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Jan 29, 2014
How do I remove extra profiles from color mangement in Print Module?
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Apr 26, 2012
I'm the manager of the in-house Production and Imaging Teams. We receive art from illustrators, prep it as needed and deliver for production/printing. Every computer in the department uses the exact same color profile settings (I know because I create, maintain and install them), we're all on the same version of PS (CS 5, version 12.1), the Imaging Team calibrates their monitors every week, and yet we have one machine in the group that won't play nice with the incoming art.
There are 4 Macs in the Imaging room. Machines 1,2 and 3 all display the illustrations exactly the same way, machine 4 displays the art as if it has been oversaturated and the contrast pushed up, as a result we are losing subtle details in the art.We can't even embed our color profiles using machine 4 since it will convert the art to what we are seeing on screen. If anyone on the other machines opens the raw import and embeds the profiles the art looks the way we expect, but open a copy from machine 4 and there is a drastic difference.
So far we have deleted all color settings, profiles and presets and reinstalled them. No effect.Figuring we missed something, we deleted the entire Creative Suite (and all peripheral bits and pieces) then reinstalled it. No effect.The next step is throw it in the trunk, drive it up into the hills, shoot it, light it on fire and bury it in a shallow grave.
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Nov 28, 2012
I haven't had this problem in CS5 photoshop but when I upgraded to CS6 photoshop I followed the recommended settings like using ProPhoto RBG.I edit in the working space colour management but not always have the same results on screen...have calibrated my monitor.
Then when it does look correct on screen and I re-import into Photoshop, my picture turns out bright red and I need to use Adobe RBG (1998). I am saving the pictures with the profile embedded, works better with Adobe RBG.What should I be using as the settings as well as management policies - currently Preserve Embedded Profiles?I don't want to have nice looking pictures in Photoshop and then have them print incorrectly or look terrible on another monitor
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Oct 19, 2011
read that color management pdf by gennady petrov and tried a few things he wrote. I turned off color management in the printer driver, chose corel to manage color, and the image default profile sRGBxxxxx. picture was way dark and ugly. tried several other profiles and same dark picture. hmm that did not work so well.
went back to the printer driver and disabled no color management, and chose the profile Adobe RGB. still kept corel as manager and chose A RGB as the profile and the print looked spot on. Have not had problems printing from corel because I have come up with my own system, but was quite surprised at the result from turning off color management in the printer driver.
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Sep 30, 2012
I cannot change printer profiles in Colour Management on PSE10. Whenever I try to do this it looks like I have changed it, and click OK...but when I check back it has actually not taken effect and has defaulted back to the original stored profile. Consequently I cannot use different paper types now. This has only just started happening and was ok before. I am using Mac OS 10.7.5 along with an Epson R3000.
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Apr 6, 2010
With standard CAD objects it is possible to control their display on a per viewport basis by using the layer manager and freezing any unwanted layers in a particular vport.
I'm having trouble controlling the display of FDO objects from an SDF file in the same way though.
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Feb 22, 2013
I've just got a new monitor and i have downloaded an ICC profile to use as i don't have calibration hardware yet. I've loaded it in Windows using color management. My question now is what color 'working space' i should set in Photoshop.
I must say that learning about color has been a steep learning curve for me so I have tried to avoid it as much as i can!!! If a total novice guide on color has been covered in another thread just point me there!
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Aug 13, 2013
I have a IMAC 27, i have had trouble with color management (monitor Vs Print). Whenever i alter an image, change the exposure, hue or saturation, it will not match monitor it receives a yellow overcast. Whenever I print the orginal image no problems. Why isn't photoshop picking up the changes?
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Jun 5, 2008
I have a windows xp system and I installed two new color profiles from www.eci.org cause I want to send graphics to offset print:
1. eci_offset_2007.zip = ISO Coated v2 (ECI) = ISOcoated_v2_eci.icc
2. ecirgbv20.zip = eciRGB v2 = eciRGB_v2.icc
These new profiles are correct installed and display under start->systemconifiguration->color profiles.
But when I try to choose these in photoshop colorsettings SHIFT+CTRL+K in RGB: or CMYK: they are not listed. I restarted photoshop and the whole system but no chance. Only one additional profile under RGB: is listed which comes from spyder2express for my monitors - rest is default.
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Jul 7, 2008
I recently installed Design Premium CS3. The applications are showing my images too saturated and with too much contrast. I have tried turning off color management, using my monitor specific profile, but nothing seems to change the color and contrast representation within Adobe aps.
If I use my Windows File Explorer and chose preview to look at an image, the image looks fine. When viewed in Bridge, Camera Raw, or Photoshop, the image is no where near the same and is way too hot already, making it very difficult to edit the image.
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May 9, 2008
I am using CS3 with Vista and printing with an Epson 1280 printer. I have calibrated my monitor. I downloaded Vista drivers for the 1280. Epson says that the ICC profiles are internal to the driver and thus, not available to PS. I placed the ICC profiles I have been using with PSCS and Windows XP into the same folder in Vista. Epson suggests letting the printer do the color management.
I have tried many combinations for letting the printer manage the process with no luck. The prints are darker than the screen version and colors subdued with reds tending toward orange.
The photo space is proRGB. I have used a gamma of 2.2, color mode set to automatic and have increased saturation and brightness. I have also tried increasing the CMY values.
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Oct 16, 2004
I've tried some different stuff in the COlor Management option, My reds in Photoshop are far from Red, that kind of thing, the colors on my monitor are fine. just not in Photoshop.
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Aug 15, 2006
I cannot get Illustrator to produce the same spot colors on screen as in Photoshop. I use Pantone Warm Red in all corporate collateral and the color swatch in Illustrator appears to be orange but in Photoshop it is truer to the original spot. I just purchased Eye-One Design to help remedy the problem but after calibrating and applying color management to the OS (Windows XP) and within the applications (Adobe - synchronized through Bridge)the color in Illustrator still looks the same. I do get a redder color when printing from Illustrator after applying the color profile but the screen image is still orange. This affects files I send off for web.
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Mar 4, 2008
I shoot a lot of macro in RAW since a slight miscalculation might underexpose or overexpose the picture and I want to be able to correct it in Camera RAW.
However, I'm 99% of the time going to use the pictures in PowerPoint for presentations...
The problems I've had are:
1) Bridge - If I have color management unchecked in preferences - the picture looks good. If I tick it, then it goes slightly red. So, I've invested in fancy colorimeter - works better - but RAW still somewhat red.
2) Camera RAW - I open the image and I get it red (just like in Bridge with color management on- that is sligthly reddish). I have it set up in sRGB.
3) Photoshop - set up in sRGB (US Web coated??). Again - red, but when copied to Powerpoint - goes normal again - just like in non-color-matched Bridge... which looks good.
So how can I introduce a workflow and know how to color correct a picture if Camera RAW and Photoshop are lying to me? Can I set this in non-color corrected mode and take it for what windows can work with?
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Aug 13, 2008
I just installed Photoshop CS3 on my home PC, and seem to be having a problem with color management. When opening photos taken with my Canon G9, or even pictures downloaded off the web, in Photoshop they appear badly posterized. Viewing the same photos in the Canon ZoomBrowser, or with the standard Windows XP tools, they appear correct.
Obviously, my color management is not properly configured. I am using the standard North American defaults with sRGB for my RGB working space, and I've tried every RGB color management policy. My monitor is an older Dell 24" LCD (I don't have the model number in front of me right now). My monitor is not calibrated, but that would not account for the dramatic difference I see in Photoshop vs. other viewing applications.
The best I can achieve is by switching the RGB working space to Monitor RGB (or proofing with that configuration), and discarding the embedded color profile (sRGB in my Canon images). And yes, Photoshop does list the specific color space profile for my Dell monitor. This still results in a different color rendition from that which I see when viewing the same photo in other applications, with blues shifted slightly toward purple.
I have several other Mac and PC based Photoshop systems in my office, but I haven't had the chance to see how the same pictures look on those. It seems to me that this is something particular to the color space of my Dell monitor,
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Jul 6, 2012
EVery time I print a test target for color profiling, I open CS4 so that I can print with no color management. I can't figure out how to do it in CS6. I must be missing something obvious, but I just can't find the option to print without color management anywhere in the CS6 driver.
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Apr 18, 2012
This is not available in my recently obtained CS5. What do I do when printer calibrating as this requires that NCM is selected in the printer set up facility?
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Nov 24, 2012
I have been trying to print a target from i1Profiler so I can read it with my i1Pro and create a printer profile, but no matter what I do, there is no way to get photoshop from supplying a profile while printing. I tried to select Printer handles color and then put the printer driver in COLOR MANAGEMENT OFF (seemed to me this would disable both the printer managing color and photosbop managing color). Tried printing this way ( and many other ways) but NO SOLUTION --- the prints are EXTREMELY different from the on-screen view (which is in a properly profiled Apple monitor) and they actually look like the ones with a profile chosen.
I also tried the utility Adobe Color Printer Utility and same results!!
I am using an EPSON Stylus Pro 7900 that I just purchased.
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Aug 23, 2012
Adobe: Just a reminder, this color-management problem that I reported against Photoshop CS5 is still around: URL....
It's illustrated here in this screen grab, showing the visibly inaccurate result of Photoshop's transform, done in the GPU, from RGB values in the ProPhoto RGB color space to the sRGB IEC61966-2.1 color space. Note the circular banding and color shifts in what should be a perfect gray gradient.
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Feb 19, 2008
Two weeks ago I wrongly faulted my new Dell 2707WFP monitor for its high contrast and saturation after many failed profiling attempts using the Spyder2Pro with the updated Vista software. I'm still at a loss as to why images are dark and overly saturated in Photoshop, Bridge and Lightroom. They were all fine on an older Dell system running XP home and CS2. I've gone so far as to purposely inflict various gamma curve settings in Spyder to bump up the low end luminance but resulting profiles still show images clipped in the low end and overall saturated even as the desktop and the PS interface turn a sickly pale.
I'm new to CS3 and Lightroom and so I'm not sure if the following is normal. When I view a NEW batch of images that were not previously viewed in Bridge, they are normal looking, however when I click on a thumbnail, it then reverts to the same garish contrasty version that I see full size in the above adobe software when opened. The same thing happens in the WINDOWS PHOTO GALLERY viewer but NOT in WINDOWS EXPLORER. In Explorer the thumbs are as they should be...normal, and if I open them in Microsoft OFFICE PICTURE MANAGER or in Quicktime PICTUREVIEWER, they open as normal images.
All this sounds like a profile issue of some kind, but as far as I know, everything appears to be set correctly in both PS and the profiling software. However, Im not sure about the system settings regarding profiles. In the Windows COLOR folder all the profiles are where they should be and I can select which one to load using the Spyder Profile Chooser. And again, I do restart PS when I change a profile. Could this be some kind of Vista bug??
Other notes:
If I do a screen shot and paste it back into PS, it turns DARKER than the original file.
When I do additional calibrations I restart PS to load the latest profile.
All files tagged sRGB and in sRGB workspace. PS shows this correct space and likewise the correct monitor profile in COLOR SETTINGS
ATI CATALYST CONTROL CENTER fails to run on bootup so windows shuts it down. No fix that I can find for this.
Running Vista Home Premium on a Dell Inspiron 530 E6550, 4GB memory, Radeon HD2600XT
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Jul 18, 2009
I'm not sure what to set my color management settings up as! I've been told a few different things! I shoot in Adobe RGB, but I've been told to set my working space to SRGB and then to set the color management policies to "Convert to working RGB, CMYK, and Gray." Then I've also been told to set the working space to Adobe RGB (1998) and then under "coversion options" change the "intent" to "perceptual." Regardless of which setting I try to use, the coloring when I view it in Photoshop is much more yellow than when I view it on my monitor. I have callibrated my monitor, so I'm assuming the problem is within Photoshop. How do I fix this so that the colors match?
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Sep 6, 2008
I think I have finally figured out how to sync all my color management settings with CS2, Lightroom, my Nikon300, and my jpg viewing software. All are set to color profile sRGB and a picture looks almost exactly the same in every program.
My main use with these programs and the desire for good color is shooting a ton of basketball game pictures and color correcting and painting them in Photoshop.
My question: Is sRGB the best choice color profile, or does anyone have an opinion on an alternative profile.
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Jul 24, 2008
I have Windows XP, home, Epson 2200 printer and CS3. Normally,when preparing to print, the image appears red or magenta in the "preview" window but the print itself is accurate and matches the monitor. Now, the preview image is dark and roughly similar to the monitor but prints with a distinct greenish cast.
I have confirmed settings of no color management by the printer and checked ICM. I've read that this suggests no color management at all, rather than double profiling.
The monitor itself is calibrated but I wouldn't think it would affect the
preview image. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the printer software[2x] and deleted Prefereences in PS, with no effect.
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Oct 15, 2008
Running under WinXP, 4GB RAM, nVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT with latest drivers:
The image display in CS4 is acting as if it were not color-aware.
Example: I open a file in which is in the ProPhoto RGB color space (and has that profile embedded) and the colors are not displayed correctly (muted and low contrast) -- the same appearance as opening such a file in a non-ICC-aware app like a browser.
Soft-proofing to sRGB does not change the appearance: colors are still wrong.
Converting to sRGB does not change the appearance while still in the dialog box -- even with Preview toggled on.
But upon executing the conversion to sRGB, the colors then appear correct -- again, as would be expected from a non-ICC-aware app.
CS3 running on the same system does not have this problem.
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Apr 27, 2008
I am sure that there are several people tired of these questions, but I am having a hard time finding anything to address my specific problems in the Knowledgebase, the FAQ's, or with searches of the forums. So, I hope you all will forgive me if my questions are redundant and either direct me to the information I need or be willing to take the time to answer my questions. Also, I am going to give some background so that it might help you to help me, so please bear with me; I have spent weeks trying to find the information to fix this on my own and I can't seem to get anywhere by myself...
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Aug 4, 2006
I have a macintosh and I do images for artists.. photographs and paintings.
I was look at iCORRECT EditLab Pro 5.0.
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Aug 13, 2007
Since I've updated to a 22" LCD Screen I've run into a problem, and Im not sure exactly what is causing it. I'll do my best to explain the circumstances.
The problem Im having is managing the colour between what Im doing in Photoshop, and what is being produced on the web. For some reason, the brightness/gamma I have in photoshop is higher than what is being saved for web.
For example, Im working on a PSD file, get the brightness, saturation to exactly where I wanted it, then go "save for web" and as soon as the save for web dialog comes up. It's much "darker".
Here is a screenshot of the photo in photoshop, along with the image saved on the right in firefox.
I've checked the "Color Settings" in Photoshop, and the RGB profile is set to SRGB.
Now most people who view the photo, say it is "too dark". So im assuming that most peopels monitors view the image as too dark. So I need photoshop to view the image as "too dark", so I can tweak the brightness etc so that it becomes correct for most monitor.
Why would photshop show it slightly brighter, as soon as I hit "save for web", the colour Im seeing in the preview window is already "too dark".
It's almost like my default ICC profile is chagned to be too bright. Any help would be appreciated. I think when I installed my graphics card drivers, then Nvidia also ran a color profiler. I also insatlled the monitor drivers for my widescreen.
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Jun 13, 2008
I am having trouble with my color management in photoshop. I am working in Adobe RGB (1998) in both photoshop and with the rest of the windows. For some reason, unknown to me, the colors in photoshop look great, but as soon as i view it in anything else, for instance 'windows picture viewer' it is very over saturated, especially in the reds! It is a massive difference between the two programmes that should look the same.
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Jan 17, 2004
I would like to set up an inexpensive Color Management workflow for my home.
My scanner is Microtek 4800.
Monitor is a Dell M992 hooked up to a Dell XPS w/ Windows XP Pro.
The printer is an Epson Stylus PHOTO 925.
My main goal is to refurbish/repair damaged photos/images.
For example, I would like to take an old picture, scan it, retouch and repair it using Photoshop CS, then print it to Photo-quality paper on my Epson.
It seems most calibration tools are expensive.
using Adobe Gamma to calibrate my Monitor. Do I really need to calibrate or profile my scanner and printer? Or can I merely use my scanner w/ no presets, adjust the image in PS, then set my printer driver to "do not color manage"?
is there a way to calibrate/profile my system that is not too expensive?
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