Photoshop :: Color Management - What Color Working Space Should Be Set
Feb 22, 2013
I've just got a new monitor and i have downloaded an ICC profile to use as i don't have calibration hardware yet. I've loaded it in Windows using color management. My question now is what color 'working space' i should set in Photoshop.
I must say that learning about color has been a steep learning curve for me so I have tried to avoid it as much as i can!!! If a total novice guide on color has been covered in another thread just point me there!
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Oct 15, 2008
Running under WinXP, 4GB RAM, nVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT with latest drivers:
The image display in CS4 is acting as if it were not color-aware.
Example: I open a file in which is in the ProPhoto RGB color space (and has that profile embedded) and the colors are not displayed correctly (muted and low contrast) -- the same appearance as opening such a file in a non-ICC-aware app like a browser.
Soft-proofing to sRGB does not change the appearance: colors are still wrong.
Converting to sRGB does not change the appearance while still in the dialog box -- even with Preview toggled on.
But upon executing the conversion to sRGB, the colors then appear correct -- again, as would be expected from a non-ICC-aware app.
CS3 running on the same system does not have this problem.
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Sep 9, 2013
My printer, Epson 3800, color management has stopped working in CS5. For a while it still worked if i printed from preview. Now even that stopped working. Epson tech was not able to solve the problem and Adobe no longer supports CS5.
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Mar 1, 2013
When I export RAW files, specifying that I want the output to be in sRGB color space the resulting files have the Adobe RGB color space. The same is true if I specify I want them in ProPhoto. Is this a bug? I have done it successfully in other versions of Lightroom, but not in 4.3.
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Jan 15, 2013
If I initially open a smartobject from ACR into PS CS6 using one color space, eg. sRGB, should it then be possible to click back into ACR and change color space to Adobe RGB ???
This is important to me, since working most of the time in sRGB, batch editing lot's of files (for timelapse-video, hence sRGB), but sometimes it may be nessecary to go back and use Adobe RGB to make a best possible print of one of the stills.
This is not working for me. I thought I should be able to do absolutely non-destructive editing when working with smartobjects from ACR, but this may seem to not be the case.
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Oct 10, 2008
I calibrated my monitor and is using sRGB as working space in photoshop cs2.
If I open an adobeRGB tagged photo, photoshop says profile mismatch. If I choose to convert adobeRGB to sRGB, would some colors get clipped by the smaller sRGB space?
Suppose I want my working space to be adobeRGB, what are all the color management related things I need to change, in addition to choosing adobeRGB as the working space in photoshop? Do I need to change the monitor calibration process?
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Oct 19, 2011
read that color management pdf by gennady petrov and tried a few things he wrote. I turned off color management in the printer driver, chose corel to manage color, and the image default profile sRGBxxxxx. picture was way dark and ugly. tried several other profiles and same dark picture. hmm that did not work so well.
went back to the printer driver and disabled no color management, and chose the profile Adobe RGB. still kept corel as manager and chose A RGB as the profile and the print looked spot on. Have not had problems printing from corel because I have come up with my own system, but was quite surprised at the result from turning off color management in the printer driver.
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Jan 25, 2012
I downloaded a trial version of PSP X4. When i export an image from ASP in ProPhoto RGB color profile, PSP insist to convert it to sRGB. I wonder what is the color profile that been used by PSP as the working space?
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Jan 29, 2012
I just downloaded and installed the PSP X4 Ultimate, I'd like to try it before I buy it. When I installed the software, I tried to access"Color Working Space", because I work with Adobe1998 and I wanted to change the work space, but every time I try to access PSP crashes.
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Jun 16, 2013
I installed LR5 from LR4 yesterday and each time I open an image in CS5 from my LR5, I get the following message:
The document "IMG_9082.CR2"has an embedded color profile that does not match the current RGB working space.
Embedded: Adobe RGB (1998)
Working sRGB IEC61966-2.1
What would you like to do?
-Use the embedded profiel (instead of the working space)
-Convert documents's colors to the working space
-Discard the embedded profile (don't color manage)
My camera's settings have it set with sRGB, LR4 and LR5 have sRGB and I have CS5 workspace as sRGB. This did not happen before.
Is it possible that when LR5 updated the LR4 catalogue, it changed the profile of all my photos? I don't know, maybe I've done something, but I can't see what as I don't remember changing anything.
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May 15, 2012
I've noticed that if I convert the same image to multiple color spaces and apply a 3D LUT with the new Color Lookup adjustment, the result is noticeably different. From experimenting, it seems that the lookup tables operate on whatever RGB value is given to them no matter what color space.
Is there a certain color space these were optimized for? For instance, would a certain color space give me a more authentic 2-strip look than another because of the space they were sampled in? And if I create my own 3D LUTs, would I have to create a separate one for each color space in order to get a consistent look in all spaces?
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Nov 21, 2011
I'm exporting Tiff Prophoto files from Lightroom into PSPX4 for further processing. The images are 1 to 2 stops under exposed when compared to Lightroom's image.I have selected PSPX4 color profile to match LR export color space.
I have tried exporting the Tiffs as sRGB and adode1998 and still the images are under exposed. I have little knowledge about color management and have searched around the web for possible answers, but no luck.
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Aug 13, 2013
I have a IMAC 27, i have had trouble with color management (monitor Vs Print). Whenever i alter an image, change the exposure, hue or saturation, it will not match monitor it receives a yellow overcast. Whenever I print the orginal image no problems. Why isn't photoshop picking up the changes?
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Jun 5, 2008
I have a windows xp system and I installed two new color profiles from www.eci.org cause I want to send graphics to offset print:
1. eci_offset_2007.zip = ISO Coated v2 (ECI) = ISOcoated_v2_eci.icc
2. ecirgbv20.zip = eciRGB v2 = eciRGB_v2.icc
These new profiles are correct installed and display under start->systemconifiguration->color profiles.
But when I try to choose these in photoshop colorsettings SHIFT+CTRL+K in RGB: or CMYK: they are not listed. I restarted photoshop and the whole system but no chance. Only one additional profile under RGB: is listed which comes from spyder2express for my monitors - rest is default.
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Jul 7, 2008
I recently installed Design Premium CS3. The applications are showing my images too saturated and with too much contrast. I have tried turning off color management, using my monitor specific profile, but nothing seems to change the color and contrast representation within Adobe aps.
If I use my Windows File Explorer and chose preview to look at an image, the image looks fine. When viewed in Bridge, Camera Raw, or Photoshop, the image is no where near the same and is way too hot already, making it very difficult to edit the image.
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May 9, 2008
I am using CS3 with Vista and printing with an Epson 1280 printer. I have calibrated my monitor. I downloaded Vista drivers for the 1280. Epson says that the ICC profiles are internal to the driver and thus, not available to PS. I placed the ICC profiles I have been using with PSCS and Windows XP into the same folder in Vista. Epson suggests letting the printer do the color management.
I have tried many combinations for letting the printer manage the process with no luck. The prints are darker than the screen version and colors subdued with reds tending toward orange.
The photo space is proRGB. I have used a gamma of 2.2, color mode set to automatic and have increased saturation and brightness. I have also tried increasing the CMY values.
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Oct 16, 2004
I've tried some different stuff in the COlor Management option, My reds in Photoshop are far from Red, that kind of thing, the colors on my monitor are fine. just not in Photoshop.
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Aug 15, 2006
I cannot get Illustrator to produce the same spot colors on screen as in Photoshop. I use Pantone Warm Red in all corporate collateral and the color swatch in Illustrator appears to be orange but in Photoshop it is truer to the original spot. I just purchased Eye-One Design to help remedy the problem but after calibrating and applying color management to the OS (Windows XP) and within the applications (Adobe - synchronized through Bridge)the color in Illustrator still looks the same. I do get a redder color when printing from Illustrator after applying the color profile but the screen image is still orange. This affects files I send off for web.
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Mar 4, 2008
I shoot a lot of macro in RAW since a slight miscalculation might underexpose or overexpose the picture and I want to be able to correct it in Camera RAW.
However, I'm 99% of the time going to use the pictures in PowerPoint for presentations...
The problems I've had are:
1) Bridge - If I have color management unchecked in preferences - the picture looks good. If I tick it, then it goes slightly red. So, I've invested in fancy colorimeter - works better - but RAW still somewhat red.
2) Camera RAW - I open the image and I get it red (just like in Bridge with color management on- that is sligthly reddish). I have it set up in sRGB.
3) Photoshop - set up in sRGB (US Web coated??). Again - red, but when copied to Powerpoint - goes normal again - just like in non-color-matched Bridge... which looks good.
So how can I introduce a workflow and know how to color correct a picture if Camera RAW and Photoshop are lying to me? Can I set this in non-color corrected mode and take it for what windows can work with?
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Aug 13, 2008
I just installed Photoshop CS3 on my home PC, and seem to be having a problem with color management. When opening photos taken with my Canon G9, or even pictures downloaded off the web, in Photoshop they appear badly posterized. Viewing the same photos in the Canon ZoomBrowser, or with the standard Windows XP tools, they appear correct.
Obviously, my color management is not properly configured. I am using the standard North American defaults with sRGB for my RGB working space, and I've tried every RGB color management policy. My monitor is an older Dell 24" LCD (I don't have the model number in front of me right now). My monitor is not calibrated, but that would not account for the dramatic difference I see in Photoshop vs. other viewing applications.
The best I can achieve is by switching the RGB working space to Monitor RGB (or proofing with that configuration), and discarding the embedded color profile (sRGB in my Canon images). And yes, Photoshop does list the specific color space profile for my Dell monitor. This still results in a different color rendition from that which I see when viewing the same photo in other applications, with blues shifted slightly toward purple.
I have several other Mac and PC based Photoshop systems in my office, but I haven't had the chance to see how the same pictures look on those. It seems to me that this is something particular to the color space of my Dell monitor,
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Jul 6, 2012
EVery time I print a test target for color profiling, I open CS4 so that I can print with no color management. I can't figure out how to do it in CS6. I must be missing something obvious, but I just can't find the option to print without color management anywhere in the CS6 driver.
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Apr 18, 2012
This is not available in my recently obtained CS5. What do I do when printer calibrating as this requires that NCM is selected in the printer set up facility?
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Nov 24, 2012
I have been trying to print a target from i1Profiler so I can read it with my i1Pro and create a printer profile, but no matter what I do, there is no way to get photoshop from supplying a profile while printing. I tried to select Printer handles color and then put the printer driver in COLOR MANAGEMENT OFF (seemed to me this would disable both the printer managing color and photosbop managing color). Tried printing this way ( and many other ways) but NO SOLUTION --- the prints are EXTREMELY different from the on-screen view (which is in a properly profiled Apple monitor) and they actually look like the ones with a profile chosen.
I also tried the utility Adobe Color Printer Utility and same results!!
I am using an EPSON Stylus Pro 7900 that I just purchased.
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Aug 23, 2012
Adobe: Just a reminder, this color-management problem that I reported against Photoshop CS5 is still around: URL....
It's illustrated here in this screen grab, showing the visibly inaccurate result of Photoshop's transform, done in the GPU, from RGB values in the ProPhoto RGB color space to the sRGB IEC61966-2.1 color space. Note the circular banding and color shifts in what should be a perfect gray gradient.
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Feb 19, 2008
Two weeks ago I wrongly faulted my new Dell 2707WFP monitor for its high contrast and saturation after many failed profiling attempts using the Spyder2Pro with the updated Vista software. I'm still at a loss as to why images are dark and overly saturated in Photoshop, Bridge and Lightroom. They were all fine on an older Dell system running XP home and CS2. I've gone so far as to purposely inflict various gamma curve settings in Spyder to bump up the low end luminance but resulting profiles still show images clipped in the low end and overall saturated even as the desktop and the PS interface turn a sickly pale.
I'm new to CS3 and Lightroom and so I'm not sure if the following is normal. When I view a NEW batch of images that were not previously viewed in Bridge, they are normal looking, however when I click on a thumbnail, it then reverts to the same garish contrasty version that I see full size in the above adobe software when opened. The same thing happens in the WINDOWS PHOTO GALLERY viewer but NOT in WINDOWS EXPLORER. In Explorer the thumbs are as they should be...normal, and if I open them in Microsoft OFFICE PICTURE MANAGER or in Quicktime PICTUREVIEWER, they open as normal images.
All this sounds like a profile issue of some kind, but as far as I know, everything appears to be set correctly in both PS and the profiling software. However, Im not sure about the system settings regarding profiles. In the Windows COLOR folder all the profiles are where they should be and I can select which one to load using the Spyder Profile Chooser. And again, I do restart PS when I change a profile. Could this be some kind of Vista bug??
Other notes:
If I do a screen shot and paste it back into PS, it turns DARKER than the original file.
When I do additional calibrations I restart PS to load the latest profile.
All files tagged sRGB and in sRGB workspace. PS shows this correct space and likewise the correct monitor profile in COLOR SETTINGS
ATI CATALYST CONTROL CENTER fails to run on bootup so windows shuts it down. No fix that I can find for this.
Running Vista Home Premium on a Dell Inspiron 530 E6550, 4GB memory, Radeon HD2600XT
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Jul 18, 2009
I'm not sure what to set my color management settings up as! I've been told a few different things! I shoot in Adobe RGB, but I've been told to set my working space to SRGB and then to set the color management policies to "Convert to working RGB, CMYK, and Gray." Then I've also been told to set the working space to Adobe RGB (1998) and then under "coversion options" change the "intent" to "perceptual." Regardless of which setting I try to use, the coloring when I view it in Photoshop is much more yellow than when I view it on my monitor. I have callibrated my monitor, so I'm assuming the problem is within Photoshop. How do I fix this so that the colors match?
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Sep 6, 2008
I think I have finally figured out how to sync all my color management settings with CS2, Lightroom, my Nikon300, and my jpg viewing software. All are set to color profile sRGB and a picture looks almost exactly the same in every program.
My main use with these programs and the desire for good color is shooting a ton of basketball game pictures and color correcting and painting them in Photoshop.
My question: Is sRGB the best choice color profile, or does anyone have an opinion on an alternative profile.
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Jul 24, 2008
I have Windows XP, home, Epson 2200 printer and CS3. Normally,when preparing to print, the image appears red or magenta in the "preview" window but the print itself is accurate and matches the monitor. Now, the preview image is dark and roughly similar to the monitor but prints with a distinct greenish cast.
I have confirmed settings of no color management by the printer and checked ICM. I've read that this suggests no color management at all, rather than double profiling.
The monitor itself is calibrated but I wouldn't think it would affect the
preview image. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the printer software[2x] and deleted Prefereences in PS, with no effect.
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Apr 27, 2008
I am sure that there are several people tired of these questions, but I am having a hard time finding anything to address my specific problems in the Knowledgebase, the FAQ's, or with searches of the forums. So, I hope you all will forgive me if my questions are redundant and either direct me to the information I need or be willing to take the time to answer my questions. Also, I am going to give some background so that it might help you to help me, so please bear with me; I have spent weeks trying to find the information to fix this on my own and I can't seem to get anywhere by myself...
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Aug 4, 2006
I have a macintosh and I do images for artists.. photographs and paintings.
I was look at iCORRECT EditLab Pro 5.0.
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Aug 13, 2007
Since I've updated to a 22" LCD Screen I've run into a problem, and Im not sure exactly what is causing it. I'll do my best to explain the circumstances.
The problem Im having is managing the colour between what Im doing in Photoshop, and what is being produced on the web. For some reason, the brightness/gamma I have in photoshop is higher than what is being saved for web.
For example, Im working on a PSD file, get the brightness, saturation to exactly where I wanted it, then go "save for web" and as soon as the save for web dialog comes up. It's much "darker".
Here is a screenshot of the photo in photoshop, along with the image saved on the right in firefox.
I've checked the "Color Settings" in Photoshop, and the RGB profile is set to SRGB.
Now most people who view the photo, say it is "too dark". So im assuming that most peopels monitors view the image as too dark. So I need photoshop to view the image as "too dark", so I can tweak the brightness etc so that it becomes correct for most monitor.
Why would photshop show it slightly brighter, as soon as I hit "save for web", the colour Im seeing in the preview window is already "too dark".
It's almost like my default ICC profile is chagned to be too bright. Any help would be appreciated. I think when I installed my graphics card drivers, then Nvidia also ran a color profiler. I also insatlled the monitor drivers for my widescreen.
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