After Effects :: CC Slow Performance - Multiprocessor Rendering And Disk Cache?
Jul 30, 2013
that is having really slow performance using AE CS6 or AECC and possibly AE CS5.5 I think i might of found out what the problem is.My System specs are below:
- Really slow performance when scrubbing along the timeline.
- Adaptive Resoltion wasn't working at all super slow previewing
- Multiprocessor rendering not working, or taking forever to start up, and sometimes it would work but still not the way it should it was hit or miss
- Disk Caching not working
- many others that I can't think of at the moment
SOLUTION for slow scrubbing of the timeline for Quad, Six and Eight core systems
Here is what I figured out after hours and hours of testing and configuring. I even went back to AE CS5.5 to see if all these problems existed in that version. Although some did but not all
From what I can tell it looks like certain plugins are not compatible to Quad, Six and Eight Core machines. The main plugin that has the problem is Keylight 1.2 that comes bundled now with CS6 and CC.
If you turn off the plugin on your layers scrubbing the timeline speeds up and works like it should. If you want to use keylight then do the following:
- under screenmatte, set the screen softness to 0
- shrink and grow to 0.
If you use any number other than these settings it causes scrubbing and rendering of the timeline to go extremely slow.
SOLUTION for all the issues above for Quad, Six and Eight core systems
After hours and hours of testing I have come to the conclusion that AE CS6 and CC don't work well with Quad, six and eight core systems in general and especially with the keylight plugin.
FIX: Go into your Bios of your computer and set your multiple core to either 1, 2 cores, theis will give you 2 thread or 4 threads. This will fix all the issues as stated below. I haven't tested 4 cores yet but soon will.
But I know that 6 and 8 cores definitely does not work it causes all the major issues above.
After setting my system to 1 or 2 cores, Ae is extremelly fast and responsive. Timeline scrubbing is super fast now even with keylight 1.2 and all it's settings. Adaptive resolution now works, Multiprocessing starts up
immediately and disk caching is working.
Conclusion
I am not able to set my system to use 8 or all cores in my bios, This causes so many performance issues in AE CS6 and CC and some in even CS 5.5. I need to use either 1 or 2 cores. As you might no this really sucks when I am limiting myself to only 4 threads when I could be using 32 threads. Pleas Adobe look into this issues with these systems that have 4, 6 or 8 core systems. This could possibley just be for Dual core systems too since that is what I have here.
The performance was fast without OpenGL(Fast Previews > Off), with my old graphic card, GeForce GTS250. After I upgrade the graphic card to Quadro 5000, it's really slow with exactly the same settings.
Why is the scrolling on the timeline so slow when Cache indicators are enabled? It's very useful to have cache indicators on but when they are enabled the scrolling (up-down/left-right) on the timeline becomes significantly slow and unresponsive enough to make it unusable. It's more noticeable the more layers are present in each composition. It's very frustrating and it is something that started happening from 5.5 onwards.
I am now on After Effect 12.2 with a Macbook Retina 2.6Ghz i7 and 16gb of ram. The problem was also present on my previous laptop.
i have the imac 27 680mx 32gb ram,when i render on cs6 takes very long time, the first one takes 8-10mins,when i do the second time its very fast 30seconds
So I added another blank newly formated SSD to use as a sractch disk. However, PS seems to hand sometimes or freeze/lag when selecting this other drive as my sratch disk. What gives?
I've been using PS CS4 since release and upgraded to CS6 Master Collection last year.Since my OS broke down some weeks ago (RAM broke), i gave Photoshop CC a try. At the same time I moved in new rooms and couldnt get my hands on the DVD of my CS6 resting somewhere at home...So I tried CC.
Right now im using it with some big files. Filesize is between 2GB and 7,5 GB max. (all PSB)Photoshop seem to run fast in the very beginning, but since a few days it's so unbelievable slow that I can't work properly. if it is caused by the growing files or some other issue with my machine.
The files contain a large amount of layers and Masks, nearly 280 layers in the biggest file. (mostly with masks)The images are 50 x 70 cm big @ 300dpi.
When I try to make some brush-strokes on a layer-mask in the biggest file it takes 5-20 seconds for the brush to draw... I couldnt figure out why.And its not so much pretending on the brush-size as you may expect... even very small brushes (2-10 px) show this issue from time to time.
Also switching on and off masks (gradient maps, selective color or leves) takes ages to be displayed, sometimes more than 3 or 4 seconds.The same with panning around in the picture, zooming in and out or moving layers.It's nearly impossible to work on these files in time.never seen this on CS6.
Now I wonder if there's something wrong with PS or the OS. But: I've never been working with files this big before.In march I worked on some 5GB files with 150-200 layers in CS6, but it worked like a charm.
SystemSpecs:
I7 3930k (3,8 GHz) Asus P9X79 Deluxe 64GB DDR3 1600Mhz Kingston HyperX GTX 570 2x Corsair Force GT3 SSD
Wacom Intous 5 m Touch (I have some issues with the touch from time to time)
WIN 7 Ultimate 64 all systemupdates newest drivers PS CC
System and PS are running on the first SSD, scratch is on the second. Both are set to be used by PS.RAM is allocated by 79% to PS, cache is set to 5 or 6, protocol-objects are set to 70. I also tried different cache-sizes from 128k to 1024k, but it didn't work a lot. When I open the largest file, PS takes 20-23 GB of RAM.
I've installed the latest CS6 update, but Photoshop is running really slow on quite a number of things. I'm happy with the overall performance: read/write, filters, selections, cropping, transform... they're all OK.
But whenever I go into the Curves dialogue, and want to add a point to the curve (or move an exisiting point), there's a 1-2 second "delay", so it's really hard to work fluently and without time-lag. Even if I have the "Preview" box unchecked in the Curves Dialogue.
I noticed the same is happening when I'm in the Gradients dialogue: Try and pick a color, in the color dialogue. 1-2 seconds later, the chosen colour finally gets selected.
The strange thing is: If I work with a Curve Adjustment Layer (instead of a "destructive" curve), Photoshop behaves nice & snappy...Would an update to OS 10.8 make things better? (I'd prefer to stick with Lion for now though)
One thing that is slowing me down is that all my photos and videos are on a Western DIgital NAS box that I can access with fairly decent performance. I want to leave them there as I have them all organised how I want them. I have a 64-bit Windows 7 laptop with 4GB RAM and Intel Core i5 processor and access the NAS box via a Wireless-N connection on the laptop via a Netgear Wireless-N router.
When I add a video or photo I get a lag (more notably the videos) but worse is selecting a video after importing it into a library. It can take a good 10-30 seconds before I can continue using VideoStudio. Is there anyway I can reduce this lag selecting videos or is my only option to copy videos to my laptop?
We have multiple parts where we need a large amount of holes being patterned with the rectangular feature. why is this process and everything afterwards so ridiculously slow.? it is really driving me nuts! In solidworks this is no problem at all.
I have had premiere fail to open for a while now on one of my secondary PC's. This computer was setup with a network drive as its disk cache/links to projects. This is so multiple editors can work off the same RAID. Works perfectly, aside from the fact that windows somehow unlinked the network drive. Once this happened premiere fails to launch and crashes when starting the program.
I had got the network drive linked back up at one point and premiere launched again running with zero problems. Again windows messed up the network drive, and premiere again, does not work.
I need to reset the settings for premiere (the disk cache settings).
THINGS I'VE ALREADY TRIED: I already tried holding Ctrl + Shift to reset, did not work. I already tried uninstalling and reinstalling, but the settings were not removed and program keeps crashing.
I would just relink the network drive and then once premiere launches change the disk cache and never do that again, but sadly the computer will not relink to that partical drive.
I'm running windows 8, latest version of CC (just updated). I have 32gig Ram, I7 processor overclocked to 4.4GHz, Nvidia Graphics.
how to improve Illustrator (CS6) performance on a photo-heavy document.
The document is best described as a "catalog" style piece. It contains 2 artboards (front and back) with approximately 30 item images on each side.
When I work on this document, after every click, tool selection, or almost any action, Illustrator "sticks" and goes to "Not Responding" temporarily, then becomes stable again for me to perform a function - then it will stick again (and repeat).
I have a mech/mfg-necessary pattern set on several parts, to the tune of about 90 slots and 500 holes each. Inventor is absolutely sucking it up handling these parts, and the assembly of these parts together is just a complete nightmare.
I have half-hour load times, constant crashes, and to top it off, they're iparts (used in an iassembly), which means I am constantly having to regenerate the whole part family with every change, a process that can take literally hours.
Are there substitute tricks, or display setting shenanigans I can pull? All of the features are individually needed somewhere, but no mgf machine needs all of them present at once.
backburner is a good tool, but it doesnt always work as expected... everything that is not an image is simply ignored while sent over the network. hence problems of "missing map". (and the server does not render anything if anything is missing) be it an audio file, or anything else. like the point cache file. max has no problem to send the XML file, but will not even look at the MC that is linked. those particular ones are giving me a very bad time dealing with them.
is there a way to trick max into baking point cache into a vertex animation or something ? (i know maya does it, but i never found a way for that in max) or maybe tricking backburner into sending EVERY files related to the max file. also, the "save as archive" doesnt take it eighter. i suspect someone forgot to implement it in the function..
Using my MAC version 10.5.8, and when searching for images in Bridge, whether it is among 3 external hard drives or just one, the search has many long delays, somtimes I think it is my mouse, then I see the images taking a long time to scroll and long time for thumbnails to appear. My mouse seems to jump around, but I think it is a delay. Do I need to purge cache?
I usually import my pictures and ask LR to generate standard previews at the same time, which is fine for a full screen preview.When going to loupe view and zooming, LR inevitably processes a 1:1 view. This is fine for me. However, after scrolling on other pictures and going back to the same exact picture which has already been 1:1 rendered, LR displays the 'Loading' message and actually proceed to another 1:1 rendering. It doesn't take advantage of the cache even though 1. dat files are present in the ACR cache directory 2. I flushed the cache and tried again 3. I set a higher limit (20 GB).I'm running LR 3.5 on Windows 7 x64.
I am buying a laptop for AE for mobile reasons.does the fast preview(so the instant result after changing an effect value you get in the preview window) depend on gpu or cpu, or both depending on what effects are used? I am looking at a 670mx for cuda, but 7970m for dominant opengl scores.
Will these 2 gpu's give me different performances regarding fast preview,or is looking into different gpu's not a worthy question yet due to After effects mostly being a cpu heavy program? Now i know all that ray tracing acceleration and how nvidia cards are necessary for that, but this is regarding fast preview only.
A week ago AE was running fine, but in the last few days, I must have enabled or did something to chop its performance by 75%.
Also, while rendering, my ENTIRE computer is super laggy, just typing this text right now, for example, is laggy. I used to ALWAYS hit render, and then browse the web, watch videos, etc... but now it's unbearable. Also, it isn't just when i do a final render. It also occurs when I skip to a single frame in the comp and it tries to render it(goes really slow)
Every now and again and usually after a crash, when I start up AE I get a message saying that the AE media cache folder does not exist. When I check on my drive for that folder, AE is quite right - it is not there. I use a separate SSD for all my media caching and another drive for footage and another as my start up drive. I set AE to use a folder called A:AE Cache. For whatever reason AE is deleting this folder. Other folders on this drive remain as they are. Unless I have a goblin sneaking into my suite on a night deleting this folder or Windows decides to delete this folder all on it's own then it is almost definitely AE that is doing it.
I am running W8 with i5 3350 and a GTX 640 and 20GB of 1600 Mhz RAM (all at default settings). I am using AE CS6 11.0.2.12
I am using a dedicated 256 SSD for my cache drive------i.e. the ONLY thing on that drive is the AE cache information. I have allotted different sizes in the cache preferences, from 140- 220GB (The drive has 240GB free space when formatted).
The problem is, that no mater what the size of the cache that I try, if there is less free space on the drive than what the specified cache size is I will get the error
"your disk cache folder is on a drive that does not have enough available space" when opening After Effects.
( 240GB formatted capacity)
160GB of cache specified in preferences + 100GB of information currently cached on drive = 260GB = The error message upon opening after effects
160GB of cache specified in preferences + 60GB of information currently cached on drive = 220GB = No error message
I do NOT get the error if I make the cache small enough, or delete the cache before opening AE, but that completely destroys the purpose of the cache in the first place.
With that, I have two questions:
1. Is there a fix for this that tells AE to cool its jets a little and recognize that the information on the SSD that is taking up space and making not enough space available is AE's own cache information?
2. If the answer to (1) is no, then is this an error I can just ignore without any major issues?
Right now it seems that this means that I can only make my cache<50% of the total formatted capacity of the drive, which seems a bit over zealous.
I recently purchased a LaCie external SSD solely for the purpose of storing my After Effects disk cache. The SSD connects to my MacBook Pro via Thunderbolt.
When I check the info on the SSD, it says it has 254 GB available, so I set the maximum disk cache size in AE to 200 GB, and created a folder on the SSD for the cache. Then I pointed to that folder in AE as the specified disk cache folder.
When I relaunch AE, though, it tells me I don't have enough space in my disk cache folder to accomodate the 200 GB max I set, even though I have 254 GB free on the SSD when I check.
Does this have to do with me creating an empty folder on the SSD to house the cache? Do I have to just use the root folder of the SSD to make use of all the available space?I just found out AE doesn't even let you use the root of a drive as the cache folder, so that can't be the problem..
When i open up after effects i get this warning "Your disk cache folder is on a drive that does not have enough available space to safely store the full amount secified in your preferences. please make more space available or go to media & disk cache preferences to change the folder or maximum disk cache size" I think this is slowing up my whole suite. I clear my disc cache folder all the time and i still get this warning. How can i fix this? Also this is a 2 part question if it can be answered i think it may have to do with the first question. When i try to add a cross dissolve in premiere pro i get this "insufficient media. this transition will contain repeated frames" .
I have an SSD disk which has 20 GB of free space that AE uses for cache, and it gets full quite often and I have to empty it every ~4 hours.
My question is can I assign a secondary location for cache for AE to store the cache files and access it from there? If I can't, is there a big difference in working speed between SSD & HDD disks regarding AE cache? (I have 2 TB of free space on an HDD disk that I can use for AE cache).
After Effects CS6: Cache and Reload Footage Problem
I am having trouble getting my footage to update in an AE project.
In an existing project, there is an image sequence in a composition. I have saved and closed AE, modified the footage (same dimensions and qty. of frames, only the pixel data changes), and then re-launched AE and opened the project. Though I have changed the footage, the old content still appears. I have done the following:
Edit>Purge>All Memory Edit>Purge>Image Cache Memory Edit>Preferences>Media & Disk Cache>Empty Disk Cache[code].....
None of these got the footage to update. I could double-click on the footage in the project bin and scrub the play head and the old footage was still displayed.Finally I had to replace the footage with itself and that resolved the issue.
If this is operator error, lack of understanding the cache functions, or something else. I don't recall this behavior in CS 5.5, so I am guessing this is a change in CS 6.
Win 7 Pro 64bit Service Pack 1 Intel Xeon CPU X5450 @ 3.00 GHz 2.99 GHz RAM 20 GB
I've been having an issue where the RAM cache disappears as soon as the RAM playback is stopped. Just to be clear, I'm referring to the green indicator along the top of the timeline so you know which frames are cached. This happens on various computers in our facility. It seems to be more common when multiprocessing is enabled. It also happens if you tell After Effects to RAM preview and then switch to another application. After Effects will complete rendering the RAM preview in the background, the icon will bounce in the dock to let you know it's ready, but nothing is cached when you switch back to After Effects. This is something that I've noticed for a couple of years over multiple versions of After Effects both at home and at the office. It seems to happen fairly consistently with specific comps which makes me wonder if it's related to any of the effects that have been applied in that comp.
After Effects CC 12.0 Mac Pro 5,1 OS X 10.8.4 2 x 2.66 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48GB RAM GTX 680
Today I got a SSD just for the cache in AE and set the preferences. I changed the "Disk Cache" to the new SSD and then also changed the second option "Conformed Media Cache" to the new SSD - then watching some videos I noticed others have only changed the "Disk Cache" and left the second option as c:users ameAppDataLocalTemp. I tried to put the second option back, but when I browse for the folder within the preferences framework I cannot see it. Deleting the preferences didn't alter the Conformed Media Cache as set by me today. I changed it today thinking that the new SSD has more space than my c drive which is also an SSD. My questions are, can I leave the conformed media cache on the same drive as the disk cache? If not, can I just make a folder on c drive under users and use that? If neither and I need to reinstate the default folder, how can I see that through the AE preferences dialogue box?
My setup is an i7 3820 with 64gig of RAM, programs running from a SSD, another SSD just for the cache, standard modern hard drives that keep my assets from my project files and another for finished and rendered items. My GPU is an Nvidia GeForce 560 and I have added this to the list so AE uses it.
