AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Revit Structure For Cut And Cover Tunnel
Jul 6, 2013
We are currently designing a Highways project which includes a cut and cover Tunnel (dual 3 lane through goes underneath a signalized at grade junction). Navisworks will be used for clash detection of all disciplines. To clarify the cut and cover structure will be similar to a large box culvert. Although new to the software; the Highways team will be undertaking the Civil Highways design in Civil 3D.
My question is - what is the best Autodesk solution for the structure and associated retaining walls? Note at this stage we are unsure what all of the design components will be (e.g. pump room for drainage etc). Previously the Structures team would have produced a 2D design (however 3D modeling is a requirement).
I have seen on the internet Civil 3D and Revit Structures being used interactively (although it appeared to be incorporating bridges only). Is Civil 3D able to affectively model this structure and retaining walls within the subassembly composer? Or is the question more to do with how the Structures team will complete their design (i.e. reinforcement detailing / scheduling etc).
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Nov 4, 2011
We use C3D 2012 (metric only) - We are attempting to customize our list of structures for Sanitary Sewers. The structure list shows sizes we do not use and we would like to modify them. However, when we try to select the "Inner Diameter" it displays a list of sizes that we can not seem to modify or add to.
I have looked at some of the XML files to try and modify or add new sizes (example: AeccStructConcentricCylinder_Metric.xml) , but they do not seem to be recognized even after I restart the program.
Here is what the file looks like:
<ColumnConstList desc="Inner Structure Diameter" dataType="float" unit="mm" name="SID" id="CCL1" visible="1" context="StructInnerDiameter" index="0">
<Item id="i0">1200.0000</Item>
<Item id="i1">1350.0000</Item>
<Item id="i2">1500.0000</Item>
<Item id="i3">1800.0000</Item>
<Item id="i4">2050.0000</Item>
<Item id="i5">2300.0000</Item>
<Item id="i6">2550.0000</Item>
I tried modifying the last line replacing 2550 with 3600.
I also tried adding a line <Item id="i7">3600.0000</Item>
I saved the XML file and restarted the program with nothing changing that I can see.
Looking for correct file(s) to edit so I can modify the LISTS that come up in the piping modules.
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One good thing about null structures is the way they display in 3D. They cover that gap in the pipe segments. Can I steal that shape?
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I have drawn a pipe network with multiple concentric sturctures. I need to make them all eccentric now. Is there an easy quick way to do this, or do I have to redraw all of them. When I go to the properties, I cannot find an option that allows me to change this.
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I'm totally new in Civil 3D. I'm using 3D laser scanner to measure and lately draw 3D "as build" models of tunnels, bridges etc. So now I have 3D model of bridge, which is simply created with layers, 3d faces, boxes etc. - primitive ACAD 3D modelling.
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At entry / exit ramp connection,
Since frequencies of corridors are perpendicular to their respective alignments, there is gap developed in between two corridors on ramp as shown in snaps.
This is common problem in roads & highways, I know how fix the same.
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I have set up my pipe rules (i.e. minimum/maximum slope and cover) to what I want. Also when creating my pipes I assigned my design (top of sub grade) surface to them. But I noticed that it's calculating my pipe cover from the middle of my pipes.
My pipes all have the right wall thickness, etc...set in the style. Is there a setting I'm missing telling the pipe to calculate it from the top of the pipe...instead of the middle of the pipe?
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I am working on sanitary pipe network, in which I want set Pipe Rule Set as
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Pipe Rule (Cover and Slope Rule) for the same.
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I am building my second book with Blurb, this time with LR4
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see my problem [URL]
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I have a revit structure and revit architecture model and I want to combine them. I keep seeing tutorials on how to bring arch into structural, but i only have arch, so can I put structul into arch?
From what I understand, this is the steps, but I cant get it to work
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select link revit
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but then i never see it open.
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I'm attempting to model a gas network using the pipe tools (Civil 3D 2011). The problems I'm having:
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My pipe rule set is:
Cover only, min/max 3'
Match pipe-to-pipe, inv 0'
I tried adding a slope rule, it dropped pipes lower.
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I do have the surface referenced, and it is being recognized (structure rims insert at grade).
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I will attach 2 screenshots. The one titled opaque is the desired effect.
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