AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Coordinate Transformation Results
Feb 21, 2012
I am using Civil 3D and Map 3D 2010.
I have some points in a drawing set up in a coordinate system and using a specified point file format, I successfully exported them to another coordinate system for use by our surveyors. I also wanted the pipe route in my destination drawing so I created a shp file from a polyline representing the pipe route in the original drawing using Map 3D Export. When I imported the shp file into my destination drawing there appears to be a slight horizontal difference from the point locations. The shp file doesn't land directly on the points.
To try another comparison, I ran a query on the pipe route to perform a manual coordinate system transformation. The result of this is the exact same as the shp file.
My questions are, which method (exporting points vs. shp files) results in the correct coordinate transformation and why are they different? When exporting points I am not using any specific transformation settings, I am simply selecting the destination coordinate system. When exporting a shp file, Map 3D creates a prj file from the specified coordinate system in the drawing. Are there any other settings I need to adjust to get the same result with both processes? The only thing I can think of is I only have the coordinates out to 4 decimal places in my point file format, do I need to go out farther?
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Nov 20, 2012
My group is trying to convert a dwg from one coordinate system to another. The original drawing contains points, blocks, etc. in 1 system and we need it in a different one. We tried attaching the dwg to a new map with the new system using a layer query, but this did not appear to bring in the objects into the new system.
"Structures" is in the original system (OR83-NF), "StructuresHarn" is in the desired system (ORHP-NIF)
P.S. C3D 2011
Civil 3D 2013, HF3.0
Windows 7, 64-bit, SP1
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Jul 9, 2013
I have a created a TIN surface with a DEM file. Drawing coordinates are State Plane NAD 83 feet. DEM file coordinates are UTM NAD27 meters. Surface is shifted approx. 835 miles east.
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Feb 19, 2013
If you have a dwg that is, say, done in west zone but some agencies want you to provide a table of west and east zone coordinates is there a transform function that will do this in a label?
I would still wan everything in the dwg to be in west zone but be able to display coordinate values in other zones.
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Mar 3, 2013
when I import PNEZD format .csv using import wizard the coordinates get transformed. all points are shifted about 20' in northing and 5 feet in easting. I have to use the import wizard w/ survey database in order to process linework codes.
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Mar 22, 2011
I have acsii data that I need to add to a map. My coordinate system for the map is CANA83-3TM114
The coordinate system for the ascii points are unknown. How do I transform the data to the same coordinate system as my map?
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Apr 1, 2010
I have some UTM images that I need to convert to State Plane. If I import them into map with raster design and export them to the state plane coordinate system, they work just fine, but I can't figure out a way to get rid of the black wedge that it makes along the edges of images.
If I query them in using map I can transform the coordinate system, but then every time I open the drawing it takes like 5 minutes just to open.
What has everyone else done to use multiple images in a drawing and transform or convert the coordinate system of the images?
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Aug 2, 2012
I get an error message when I load a map with Map 2009 (XP) that was last saved by 2012 (Win7 x64). The error message is this:
Warning: Drawing {drawing name} was created with a version of coordinate system {coordinate system name} that is different from the version installed on your system. Coordinate conversion operations may generate incorrect results.
I tried opening and saving it with 2009 but the error persists. What causes this error and what can be done about it?
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Mar 1, 2012
I have some transformation parameters from WGS84 to ED50 and I dont know how to use them...How can I use these transformation parametrs in Civil3d ?
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Mar 15, 2013
I am giving a drawing containing all the contour objects in a NAD 83 coordination, I need to transfer them to a project coordination system. I am given with the origins of both system. For NAD 83, it is N6360000 E467000, for the project it is N50000 E8000. I tried to do the transformation using Toolspace->Settings->Drawing Settings->Tranformation, and changed the Local Northing/Easting and Grid Northing/Easting, but does not seem to solve the problem.
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Mar 27, 2013
I am using Civil 3d 2012 and I have a dwg that is in AR North Nad83. The client needs it put in UTM 15 Nad83. Is there an easy way to do this?.
AutoCAD Civil 3D 2012 SP4
Windows 7 (64)
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Jul 18, 2013
The transformation settings are changing every time a drawing is reopened. The computation method is switching from "reference point" to "unity" - see attachment. This is causing the software to use a scale factor of 1 instead of the computed scale factor at the defined reference point when scaling our points from state plane to our local ground system. This completely screws up our entire survey workflow that we have been using for almost 2 years. We had no issues like this in the 2012 or 2013 versions.
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Sep 16, 2013
i am located in Greece and the current progection is GGRS87 .
before the GGRS87 we had a system named HATT with the folowing info:
maps 1/5000 based on the Bessel ellipsoid (1841)
i have many drawings with point coordinates in the old system. is there a way to transform them in the new projection?
what else info is needed for the transformation.
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Jul 29, 2013
I have geotif images that I've purchased from Washoe County GIS. They have world files that work great with data connect. That is, as long as I want to work at sea level. We have a Combined Factor mandated by the County for all record maps. it's a simple grid to ground factor. I can set this factor in the drawing settings and import my sea-level coordinate files just fine. The pboblem is that I can't get the Data Connect to work with the transform settings.The problem is the same with Geotif files and SHP files. I've tried using an x-reference drawing to insert the Geotif and then scale up the geotif but the imagery doesn't scale up.
Is it a program bug that keeps Data Connect from recognizing the transformation settings?
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Dec 23, 2013
I performed an analysis on a system, but when I play the video some of the pipe segments the water line jumps back and forth angling in different directions. Some of the pipes get full and then the water line just drops down to the bottom. I also cannot get the pipes to drain at the end, I tried running the analysis for a long time span and it just sits at the point that it wants.
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Dec 10, 2012
In particular, I am attempting the infamous task of creating driveway openings using a horizontal target with my sub-assemblies. I referred to the AU 2010 video tutorial that gets passed around here on the boards, and for the most part, it works with ONE tiny exception.
Like in the AU video, I set my conditional target to look for a particular layer, and I first attempted the exercise by placing ONE polyline (i.e. driveway opening) on the layer, and set set conditional "found" and "not found" targets to find this pline. The target found the pline on the layer on the right side of the road where I drew it, and created the opening as hoped, but it created an opening on the LEFT side of the road as well!
What do I have to do to prevent the conditional horizontal targets from ignoring the exact opposite side of the road? In my assembly, the left conditions are set to LEFT, and the right conditions are set to RIGHT, but when the corridor gets modeled, BOTH sides of the road will show an opening even if there is only one pline drawn.
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May 23, 2012
How do I add my own system in Civil3d? We have a little strange system here with a deformation model, but I suggest that isn't a problem.
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Jun 21, 2012
I am using Civil 3D 2013, Windows 7 x64.
Intellizoom does not seem to work properly on certain drawings, where if I undo... nothing happens. Rather, it tries to undo *each* click of my scroll wheel, without doing anything. This results in dozens and hundreds of undo commands, most of which are totally useless. This of course breaks my undo command, rendering it almost pointless. If I make a change, zoom out and decide that the change is not needed, I cannot easily undo; I have to undo something like 50 "commands" that do nothing, before I get to the "real" undo that I wanted to undo in the first place.
I understand there is the "Combine zoom and pan commands"; this is checked off. It does not seem to do anything. How do I make my undo command useful again? As a keyboard user, I want to use ctrl-z for my undos. I do not want to go to the undo button, pull down the menu, and search trhough the 50 commands to find the correct command to undo to, especially since I never had this problem before in previous versions of Civil 3D.
Some additional information:
1. I can open some other drawings that get the correct undo/zoom behaviour.
2. I can open the drawing I have problems with using a previous version of Civil 3d (2012), and get the correct undo/zoom behaviour.
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Jul 14, 2012
I'm finding myself on more and more sites that use multiple coordinate systems and height datums.
We have 3 on this job. One is the MGA zone 50 GDA94, another is just an offset of this and the third is a strange local grid with offsets and rotations.
We have Excel spreadsheets that can convert between the systems, but that requires several extra steps per point.
Is it possible to define each coordinate system in one drawing so that I could select which system I wanted to use, input the points and then select the main coordinate system so it converts the coordinates directly? It would mean less steps and I would have greater confidence in this system.
We have the parameters for all systems.
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Mar 27, 2013
Each time an @ is entered at the command line, C3D is freezing for up to 15 seconds before allowing the comand to continue. It wasn't happening last week and no changes have been made to the instalation. What could be causing this glitch?
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Nov 6, 2012
If I set up my Civil 3D drawing in some known coordinate system, e.g. State Plane, in the "drawing settings", can I then toggle my drawing into other known systems, e.g. UTM, by changing the coordinate system under "drawing settings"?
If not, how are the coordinate settings used?
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Sep 2, 2013
I want to have a piece of text added to the drawing notes that uses a field (or similar), to list the coordinate system code assigned to the drawing, i.e. UTM83-12.
Any setvar or something that I can use?
There are load of different coordinate systems to choose from, and I don’t want to have to manually enter it for every drawing.
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Aug 1, 2012
I have a problem with different coordinate systems. I have a drawing in old Finnish coordinate system (KKJ, kaista 4) and I have a point file, which is made in ETRS-GK29 coordinate system. When I try to transfer the points to the drawing, the points will land way off from the drawing or I get this error message "Coordinate transformation from ETRF89.FinlandGK-29 to FINL-KKJ4 failed for point located at {29511662.554000,6948599.365000}. This usually indicates the point falls outside the boundaries of the destination coordinate system". I have checked and the point {29511662.554000,6948599.365000} should be over the drawing.
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Sep 3, 2013
Is it possible to turn off or disable the coordinate or drawing conversion on import. I know I can turn it off in a dwg file but I want to completely disable it no matter what the setting is in the dwg file.
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Feb 16, 2012
I am trying to convert point data from NAD83 State Plane Coordinates to UTM coordinates.
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Dec 24, 2011
I have some problem with paste to original coordinate that it appears as grey in right click as shown in attached file but it can paste from ribbon.
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Jul 9, 2012
My Civil 3D 2012 coordinate systems normally displayed on the units and zone tab of the drawing settings have disappeared. On existing drawings the coordinate system code is still displayed. On new drawings the code appears as a symbol - a period or a comma or something. I can enter the coordinate system code and the program recognizes it.
My Civil 3D 2011 coordinate systems display as expected.
WP7,SP1, 64-bit, Civil 3D 2012
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Mar 2, 2012
How can I show coordinate on Civil 3D? I inserted a map from Google earth and I want the coordinate to be there.
Civil 3D 2012 SP1
8 GB Ram
i7-2630 @ 2.0 GHz
64 Bit Window 7 OS
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Jul 9, 2012
Every now and then I'll have a sheet that will not accept placement of another model view from the sheet set manager. (There are usually two or more model views already on the layout). Every attempt will cause AutoCAD to crash. I run recover and audit and the problem persists.
Today I did something differently. I added a new layout, and successfully placed the model view on that layout (I accepted the condition that the layout was not part of a sheet set). Then I went back to the layout I really wanted the model view on and was able to place it without any problem. The significant difference I can see is that I usually have only one layout (I typically delete layouts I don't use which leaves only one layout). It seems to me that having one layout and only one layout while attempting to place a model view on it could very well be the cause of this random crash problem. I have not been able to confirm this yet but the next time I crash trying to place a model view, the first thing I will try is to add a new layout.
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Sep 17, 2013
I am working on creating an alignment from a single polyline. The polyline, which was originally created in Carlson 2012, is a flat polyline that is about 1200 feet in length. When I select it with create alignment from object, it accepts it and seems to work. For some reason though, the stationing is way off --- e.g. the true 50' mark is showing up as 0+04.17 which results in an end station of 0+99.31 on a 1191' polyline.
edit> I also have tried this with a brand new polyline I created in civil3d, same issue.
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Jan 2, 2013
Attached is my 1st project using SSA for detention pond design.
Where is the best place to view the results for the detention pond peak outflow and maximum HGL?
Also, the program seems to separate the results per year storm...anyway to view the results for all year storms in the same report?
how do you attach the .spf file?
2013 Civil 3D
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