AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Data And Different Coordinate Systems
Aug 1, 2012
I have a problem with different coordinate systems. I have a drawing in old Finnish coordinate system (KKJ, kaista 4) and I have a point file, which is made in ETRS-GK29 coordinate system. When I try to transfer the points to the drawing, the points will land way off from the drawing or I get this error message "Coordinate transformation from ETRF89.FinlandGK-29 to FINL-KKJ4 failed for point located at {29511662.554000,6948599.365000}. This usually indicates the point falls outside the boundaries of the destination coordinate system". I have checked and the point {29511662.554000,6948599.365000} should be over the drawing.
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Jul 14, 2012
I'm finding myself on more and more sites that use multiple coordinate systems and height datums.
We have 3 on this job. One is the MGA zone 50 GDA94, another is just an offset of this and the third is a strange local grid with offsets and rotations.
We have Excel spreadsheets that can convert between the systems, but that requires several extra steps per point.
Is it possible to define each coordinate system in one drawing so that I could select which system I wanted to use, input the points and then select the main coordinate system so it converts the coordinates directly? It would mean less steps and I would have greater confidence in this system.
We have the parameters for all systems.
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Nov 6, 2012
If I set up my Civil 3D drawing in some known coordinate system, e.g. State Plane, in the "drawing settings", can I then toggle my drawing into other known systems, e.g. UTM, by changing the coordinate system under "drawing settings"?
If not, how are the coordinate settings used?
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Jul 9, 2012
My Civil 3D 2012 coordinate systems normally displayed on the units and zone tab of the drawing settings have disappeared. On existing drawings the coordinate system code is still displayed. On new drawings the code appears as a symbol - a period or a comma or something. I can enter the coordinate system code and the program recognizes it.
My Civil 3D 2011 coordinate systems display as expected.
WP7,SP1, 64-bit, Civil 3D 2012
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Jan 8, 2012
Got a new Windows 764 bit computer. Installed 2012. Using the Map Wspace to attach jpegs. I connect to the image and go to edit the coordinate system. On the new computer, I only have a half dozen coordinate systems, none of which are PAN83.
I go to my old XP pro 32 bit computer and the whole list of coordinate systems comes up.
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Aug 30, 2012
I can not change coordinate systems of Surface models and COGO points. Why?
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Nov 3, 2012
I want to know why I can't change coordinate of points while importing points from Points menu?
I created new file, assigned any coordinate system to the model. Opened Import points windows there, created new file format which there I assigned Coordinate zone transform to the coordinate system of the text file and imported my text file. But the coordinates of points didn't changed or transformed. When I do it by Survey in Toolspace its works good. I want to know whether I did any wrong or it is problem of software.
I use AutoCADCivil 2013 64 bit in Windows 7 64 bit!
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Jul 19, 2012
I am using Civil 3D 2012 with SP1. When I use data connect and attempt to edit the coordinate system the Coordinate System Library that pops up only shows 5 No Datum coordinate systems. The Datum box under Show is uncheck, unfortunately it is also greyed out and uncheckable. How do I get this box checked?
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Mar 9, 2012
Installation of Autocad Map 2012 provides a list of thousands of coordinate systems, datums, geodetic transformations, etc.. but I see that the system doesn't allows editing (they are read-only) and always I have to create new systems, new datums ..Is there any way to make it editable?
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Jul 17, 2012
I'm enlisted in the United States Air Force and am working with the Navy for topo surveys. I'm bringing my information into AutoCAD Map 3D 2010 and using the coordinate system UTM84-4N. I can't figure out why when I bring in my survey .dwg, all of the points are in the middle of the ocean.
I've tried to manually project the coordinate systems onto each file and reference them. I've changed units to meters. I've copied with base point 0,0 and pasted as the same. I've even opened a fresh file, gave that a projection, imported the drawing from "Map Explorer" and queried "ALL" and redrew the file and still nothing. I've checked the Geo-Markers and they're obviously off. Is there a way to match them and have it scaled properly?
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Jul 23, 2012
Is there a way to change a drawing in AutoCad 2012 or 2013 from Michigan Georef to State Plane? Any converter calculator, an add on,etc?
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Jan 30, 2012
Is there a way to set Inventor so that the sketch origin defaults to the part origin? I find it very frustrating that it always defaults to some random corner of the part's body. It can screw up a part if you decide later on to modify the part such that you eliminate the point to which a coordinate system was defined. Also, when copying and pasting a sketch to new work planes it can be a pain to figure out which point is the origin of the orignal sketch if the pasted sketch is misaligned.
I know you can edit the coordinate system after a sketch is created, but I'd prefer not to have to rememember to do that with every sketch.
This was brought up about 6 years ago and there was no formal resolution
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In the second-to-last post John-IV8SP1mentions an option under 'Application Options' for an older version of AI, but I cannot find it in the 2012 applicaton options.
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Apr 1, 2010
I have some UTM images that I need to convert to State Plane. If I import them into map with raster design and export them to the state plane coordinate system, they work just fine, but I can't figure out a way to get rid of the black wedge that it makes along the edges of images.
If I query them in using map I can transform the coordinate system, but then every time I open the drawing it takes like 5 minutes just to open.
What has everyone else done to use multiple images in a drawing and transform or convert the coordinate system of the images?
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May 17, 2011
A - Autodesk will fix them in a timely fashion during this release - Not holding my breath here
B - Others won't spend hours trying to figure it out.
In my case, I need to create multiple unique coordinate systems called Low Distortion Projections (Google it for explanation.)
Here are the problems identified so far with the 2012 version of the Coordinate Library
Coordinate System Categories
1 - The regional 'containers' that hold coordinate systems definitions. You cannot create an empty container. It requires at least 1 coordinate system definition to be created. When creating a container put an arbitrary coordinate system definition in. This assists with item 2b.
Coordinate System Definitions
2a - Getting started - There is no provision to just select an existing datum or ellipsoid. One must 'create' a new definition that may vary in name only. The vast majority of us using their products will not actually create new ellipsoids or datums just utilizing them as the basis for other projections.
2b - Creating definition - Continuing the definition process the definition needs to be placed in a coordinate system category. Due to the problems identified in item 1 this creates a circular error. The workaround being item 1 rather than creating multiple definitions in the wrong container then going back to fix them.
2c - Scale Reduction - This should be renamed to Scale Factor to fit with the rest of the known world as the value can be greater or less than unity (1.000000) In my case the values all happen to be something greater than 1. While on this subject, the autodesk programmers set this to do something totally unexpected. No matter what you set the value to, if you save and reedit the projection value will be displayed as '1'
2d - Missing Projection definition form data - I went through the projection definitions and found the following projection types were missing their fields in the form:
Oblique Mercator
Ordanance Survey National Grid Transformation 1997
Ordanance Survey National Grid Transformation OSTN02
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Aug 10, 2012
I have 50+ project sites scattered along a 600+ mile alignment. My alignment reference drawing coordinate system is set to a UTM coordinate system. My project site drawings are set to state plane coordinate systems. Does coordinate transformation automatically occur with data references?
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Jul 28, 2012
Is there anyway to create a point from the coordinate and elevation data listed in a section inquiry panel (see attached)?
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Mar 21, 2012
We are starting a project that we will be preparing a site grading plan for.We are being provided with an ALTA Survey drawing that is on state plane coordinate system, and the existing topography that I will be using for my existing surface is on a UTM coordinate system.
The site grading plan needs to be on state plane coordinate system that the ALTA Survey drawing is on.
I haven't done it before but I understand you can use Map 3D and take drawings that are on different coordinate systems and have them line up properly.
If I have my existing surface in a UTM coordinate system and want to data shortcut it into my site grading plan that's on state plane coordinates, will that work?
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Jul 11, 2013
When the attached shape file (change soilmu_a_a.txt to .shp) is imported using MAPIMPORT the data aligns with other imported georeferenced raster imagery (said imagery was imported using the MAPIINSERT command). If the same shape file is imported using the data connect tool it shows up in a much different location (see word document).
The drawing coordinate system code is "UTM83-18F" and the data was downloaded from the Web Soil Survey's data download with the identical coordinate system (see attached readme.txt).
I prefer to use the data connect option when importing this type of shape file because I can label them all using a theme and use stylize the data for visualization/presentation.
As an aside, I have found that data connect does not automatically transform data coordinate systems to match your drawing coordinate system as advertised. I've used the edit coordinate system to no avail; however, again when the file is imported using MAPIMPORT and saved as a drawing (with native data coordinate system) and then that drawing is queried from a drawing in a different coordinate system it seems to transform the coordinate system just fine. Is this a problem with data connect?
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Mar 3, 2013
when I import PNEZD format .csv using import wizard the coordinates get transformed. all points are shifted about 20' in northing and 5 feet in easting. I have to use the import wizard w/ survey database in order to process linework codes.
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Jan 23, 2013
I work in a manufacturing facility and we are trying to come up with a way to extract data from an AutoCAD file in to a .KML or .CSV file which gives coordinate points, etc.
This will be used in a mapping-type software to display/highlight areas of the plant with zooming capabilities and information shown on the left-side. We are trying to make it look something like Google Maps, so it can used to determine areas of the plant undergoing work, lighting zones, etc.
In a nutshell, I want to be able to extract coordinate data from our layout(s) which can used to pinpoint locations on the map and highlight regions, etc. Perhaps it could export data in to Excel with attributes assigned to the coordinates which give Area, Bay Location, etc. The initial thought was to somehow export this to a .KML file and use that as a starting point.
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Nov 22, 2011
I have a .PTS file (an ASCII file with XYZ coordinate data + two additional sets of info per point). Is there any way to bring this into AutoCAD natively?
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Mar 22, 2011
I have acsii data that I need to add to a map. My coordinate system for the map is CANA83-3TM114
The coordinate system for the ascii points are unknown. How do I transform the data to the same coordinate system as my map?
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Apr 24, 2012
I have a master shape file that contains parcel ID, owner, tax info., etc. I have another file ( access 2003 -open to better file format suggestions-) which contains parcel ID and a "yes" or " no" entry for whether or not the parcel needs a new water meter. All I want to do is add the water meter information into the other shape file. This would create one shape file with one table with all the information that I need.
Ultimately I will use the information to do a map query and find out spatially where i need new water meters.
Right now i have the master shape file connected though the “Connect to Data” feature. I also have the new data added to the drawing though the Data sources------>attach under the “Map Explorer” Task pane. I attached access file (ver. 2003 .mdb) which has two columns “Parcel ID” and “Meter”.
I right click on the shape file under the display manager and select”Create a Join;” however my water meter table is not listed as an option. Will this not work?
Plan B - I tried to Create and connect to the access file as an ODBC connection. Followed this guy’s directions to a T [URL]. But when i populate my table under the fdo connection the column headings exist ( “parcel ID” and “Meter”) but the actual data is missing. Am I missing something important?
Note: I am running c3d 2012 on a Win 7 64 Bit machine. I also removed office 32 bit apps and installed 64 bit apps to see if that would solve the problem. No go.
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Apr 10, 2013
say you make some parcels in your project with custom data fields like: id_no, permit_no, acres_served etc. you attach an agency provided shape file via an fdo connection that has many fields of information like above.
when you right click on your parcel and do parcel properties you get a tab that lets you input the custom parcel data.
lets say you print an fdo map label showing, say, the id_no, provided in the shape file. Then in your custom parcel properties for id_no you type that in.
is there a way to make an expression to put in the other custom parcel properties that will read, say, the permit_no(id_no) from the fdo like and put that information in the custom parcel property field?
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Jun 7, 2012
I'm having problems getting super elevation data to transfer to different drawings by means of an alignment data shortcut. I know alignments hold the super elevation data so I've gone into my alignments data shortcut, input my super elevation data, saved and closed. Now when I open my finished grade drawing, reference in my alignment and profiles, then create a corridor from that information, my super elevation didn't transfer with the reference.
I pulled cross sections and it appears is has no clue there is any super elevation data. Also, I tried bringing it directly into the drawing I'm doing my corridors in and it erred saying I must be in the parent alignment drawing. Data shortcuts are pretty much useless to me if super elevation data doesn't transfer.
64 bit Windows 7
Intel Xeon (R) @2.8GHz
6.00GB Ram
Civil 3D 2012
Civil 3D 2012
Intel(R) Xeon W3530 @ 2.80GHz
6.00GB Ram
Windows 7 Professional
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Sep 9, 2011
i have created a data band in profile view that should show a created profiles elevation, but some of the the data fields are missing irregulary. Also in the data band that shoud show the diferenece betven the tow profiles - EG and the new profile the data is missing. The EG profiles data and the surface are ok all is shown.
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May 3, 2013
I've just installed Civil3D, 64-bit on windows 7(running on bootcamp) and am trying to insert a georeferenced raster image but have encountered some issues.
1. "Home tab>>Data panel>>>insert An Image" - The data panel is missing and it's also not found in "customize palettes"
2. Trying the data connect route does not work either: Display manager>>>Data>>>Connect To Data - There is no 'Data' option and I cannot connect to Data.
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May 23, 2012
How do I add my own system in Civil3d? We have a little strange system here with a deformation model, but I suggest that isn't a problem.
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Mar 27, 2013
Each time an @ is entered at the command line, C3D is freezing for up to 15 seconds before allowing the comand to continue. It wasn't happening last week and no changes have been made to the instalation. What could be causing this glitch?
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Sep 2, 2013
I want to have a piece of text added to the drawing notes that uses a field (or similar), to list the coordinate system code assigned to the drawing, i.e. UTM83-12.
Any setvar or something that I can use?
There are load of different coordinate systems to choose from, and I don’t want to have to manually enter it for every drawing.
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Nov 20, 2012
My group is trying to convert a dwg from one coordinate system to another. The original drawing contains points, blocks, etc. in 1 system and we need it in a different one. We tried attaching the dwg to a new map with the new system using a layer query, but this did not appear to bring in the objects into the new system.
"Structures" is in the original system (OR83-NF), "StructuresHarn" is in the desired system (ORHP-NIF)
P.S. C3D 2011
Civil 3D 2013, HF3.0
Windows 7, 64-bit, SP1
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