AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Unable To Change Coordinate Systems While Importing Points
Nov 3, 2012
I want to know why I can't change coordinate of points while importing points from Points menu?
I created new file, assigned any coordinate system to the model. Opened Import points windows there, created new file format which there I assigned Coordinate zone transform to the coordinate system of the text file and imported my text file. But the coordinates of points didn't changed or transformed. When I do it by Survey in Toolspace its works good. I want to know whether I did any wrong or it is problem of software.
I use AutoCADCivil 2013 64 bit in Windows 7 64 bit!
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Aug 30, 2012
I can not change coordinate systems of Surface models and COGO points. Why?
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Mar 9, 2012
Installation of Autocad Map 2012 provides a list of thousands of coordinate systems, datums, geodetic transformations, etc.. but I see that the system doesn't allows editing (they are read-only) and always I have to create new systems, new datums ..Is there any way to make it editable?
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Aug 8, 2012
I have been trying to import LAS files via Civil 3D 2011.
To do this I first turn the workspace to ''Tool based geospatial''. Then i assign a global coordinate system which is the same one as the LAS file i am importing. The in the task pane window (command: mapwspace) under display manager tab i right click on map base --> data --> add point cloud data --> create new index and then choose the file I want to import. Here i have some trouble; in the create new index window i am unable to assign a coordinate system, i can find the one i need but i cant select it (or any other), it persists on staying unselected. I am able to create an index without a coordinate system but I need it with the right coordinates.
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Jul 14, 2012
I'm finding myself on more and more sites that use multiple coordinate systems and height datums.
We have 3 on this job. One is the MGA zone 50 GDA94, another is just an offset of this and the third is a strange local grid with offsets and rotations.
We have Excel spreadsheets that can convert between the systems, but that requires several extra steps per point.
Is it possible to define each coordinate system in one drawing so that I could select which system I wanted to use, input the points and then select the main coordinate system so it converts the coordinates directly? It would mean less steps and I would have greater confidence in this system.
We have the parameters for all systems.
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Nov 6, 2012
If I set up my Civil 3D drawing in some known coordinate system, e.g. State Plane, in the "drawing settings", can I then toggle my drawing into other known systems, e.g. UTM, by changing the coordinate system under "drawing settings"?
If not, how are the coordinate settings used?
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Aug 1, 2012
I have a problem with different coordinate systems. I have a drawing in old Finnish coordinate system (KKJ, kaista 4) and I have a point file, which is made in ETRS-GK29 coordinate system. When I try to transfer the points to the drawing, the points will land way off from the drawing or I get this error message "Coordinate transformation from ETRF89.FinlandGK-29 to FINL-KKJ4 failed for point located at {29511662.554000,6948599.365000}. This usually indicates the point falls outside the boundaries of the destination coordinate system". I have checked and the point {29511662.554000,6948599.365000} should be over the drawing.
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Jul 9, 2012
My Civil 3D 2012 coordinate systems normally displayed on the units and zone tab of the drawing settings have disappeared. On existing drawings the coordinate system code is still displayed. On new drawings the code appears as a symbol - a period or a comma or something. I can enter the coordinate system code and the program recognizes it.
My Civil 3D 2011 coordinate systems display as expected.
WP7,SP1, 64-bit, Civil 3D 2012
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Jan 8, 2012
Got a new Windows 764 bit computer. Installed 2012. Using the Map Wspace to attach jpegs. I connect to the image and go to edit the coordinate system. On the new computer, I only have a half dozen coordinate systems, none of which are PAN83.
I go to my old XP pro 32 bit computer and the whole list of coordinate systems comes up.
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Jul 19, 2012
I am using Civil 3D 2012 with SP1. When I use data connect and attempt to edit the coordinate system the Coordinate System Library that pops up only shows 5 No Datum coordinate systems. The Datum box under Show is uncheck, unfortunately it is also greyed out and uncheckable. How do I get this box checked?
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Jul 17, 2012
I'm enlisted in the United States Air Force and am working with the Navy for topo surveys. I'm bringing my information into AutoCAD Map 3D 2010 and using the coordinate system UTM84-4N. I can't figure out why when I bring in my survey .dwg, all of the points are in the middle of the ocean.
I've tried to manually project the coordinate systems onto each file and reference them. I've changed units to meters. I've copied with base point 0,0 and pasted as the same. I've even opened a fresh file, gave that a projection, imported the drawing from "Map Explorer" and queried "ALL" and redrew the file and still nothing. I've checked the Geo-Markers and they're obviously off. Is there a way to match them and have it scaled properly?
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Jul 23, 2012
Is there a way to change a drawing in AutoCad 2012 or 2013 from Michigan Georef to State Plane? Any converter calculator, an add on,etc?
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Jan 30, 2012
Is there a way to set Inventor so that the sketch origin defaults to the part origin? I find it very frustrating that it always defaults to some random corner of the part's body. It can screw up a part if you decide later on to modify the part such that you eliminate the point to which a coordinate system was defined. Also, when copying and pasting a sketch to new work planes it can be a pain to figure out which point is the origin of the orignal sketch if the pasted sketch is misaligned.
I know you can edit the coordinate system after a sketch is created, but I'd prefer not to have to rememember to do that with every sketch.
This was brought up about 6 years ago and there was no formal resolution
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In the second-to-last post John-IV8SP1mentions an option under 'Application Options' for an older version of AI, but I cannot find it in the 2012 applicaton options.
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Apr 1, 2010
I have some UTM images that I need to convert to State Plane. If I import them into map with raster design and export them to the state plane coordinate system, they work just fine, but I can't figure out a way to get rid of the black wedge that it makes along the edges of images.
If I query them in using map I can transform the coordinate system, but then every time I open the drawing it takes like 5 minutes just to open.
What has everyone else done to use multiple images in a drawing and transform or convert the coordinate system of the images?
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May 17, 2011
A - Autodesk will fix them in a timely fashion during this release - Not holding my breath here
B - Others won't spend hours trying to figure it out.
In my case, I need to create multiple unique coordinate systems called Low Distortion Projections (Google it for explanation.)
Here are the problems identified so far with the 2012 version of the Coordinate Library
Coordinate System Categories
1 - The regional 'containers' that hold coordinate systems definitions. You cannot create an empty container. It requires at least 1 coordinate system definition to be created. When creating a container put an arbitrary coordinate system definition in. This assists with item 2b.
Coordinate System Definitions
2a - Getting started - There is no provision to just select an existing datum or ellipsoid. One must 'create' a new definition that may vary in name only. The vast majority of us using their products will not actually create new ellipsoids or datums just utilizing them as the basis for other projections.
2b - Creating definition - Continuing the definition process the definition needs to be placed in a coordinate system category. Due to the problems identified in item 1 this creates a circular error. The workaround being item 1 rather than creating multiple definitions in the wrong container then going back to fix them.
2c - Scale Reduction - This should be renamed to Scale Factor to fit with the rest of the known world as the value can be greater or less than unity (1.000000) In my case the values all happen to be something greater than 1. While on this subject, the autodesk programmers set this to do something totally unexpected. No matter what you set the value to, if you save and reedit the projection value will be displayed as '1'
2d - Missing Projection definition form data - I went through the projection definitions and found the following projection types were missing their fields in the form:
Oblique Mercator
Ordanance Survey National Grid Transformation 1997
Ordanance Survey National Grid Transformation OSTN02
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Apr 22, 2013
I have Points in Civil 3D that are in the Washington State South Zone NAD 83 Coordinate System and would like to get these points converted to Washington State North Zone NAD 83 Coordinate System. I am able to convert drawings entities to the new coordinate system using MAPEXPLORER but the points do not go with it.
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Jul 10, 2012
I have a small field (5 by 5 meters) to be set out with about 40 points. Currently i use EOV (Hungarian National Coordinate System), thus each point has a lot of digits. I want to make the implemetor's job easier, so i want to move and rotate the CS near to my field.
I tried to use UCS, but the COGO points retained the "World" coordinates.
How to carry out this without moving my whole drawing to the origin?
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May 14, 2012
We have a points file to create a "bottom of peat level" surface. The only problem is, along with the X and Y, it only gives us the distance from OGL, not the actual Z Elevation at each point. How do we import these into C3D to create a surface? We have a topo survey for the whole site, so we have and EG surface.
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Jun 6, 2012
i want change the grid coordinate to ground on civil 3d 2011,but i can.t find it
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May 1, 2013
When I import points from an external project point database (LDD) which I do quite often to import points from 2008 to Civil 3d it works fine for me, but when a co-worker tries doing it from the same exact drawing just a different computer it does not work. Whe he tries to do it, a red "X" appears telling him there is some kind of error. VERY strange and I have no clue why????
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Apr 12, 2012
I was wondering what is the difference between importing points under the Prospector tab versus importing points under the Suvey tab? And how either of the two methods relate to using Data Shortcut?
I would like to create a survey topo drawing that contains points and surface information which other Design drawings that are attached to the Data Shortcut project can access but not be able to make any changes to the original points and existing surface information.
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Jun 14, 2013
When i import points (csv) from my excel sheet into Civil 3D, i can't see the actual points on the display frame, but i can see that the points have been imported by looking at the prospector tab > Points.
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Jul 13, 2012
I am building a new template for our office and just finished building my Description Key Code Set, and Figure Prefix Database. I stopped to do a quick trial run on one of our surveying files, but when I imported the file all of the figure lines imported correctly but the points all came in the default point style and label style. I went to the Settings Tab/Points/Commands and made sure my "Disable Description Keys" was set to False. This is not my first template and I have never had this issue before.
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Jan 4, 2013
We're moving [slowly, painfully] from LDD to Civil 2012. When importing a survey fieldbook in LDD, my method has always been to "clean up" the fieldbook during the import. Rather than search through the fieldbook text file manually, I'll let the import process find the duplicate, overwritten points, or errant linecodes, and then exclamate them or change them in the fieldbook and, if necessary, reimport the fieldbook. Figures and breaklines use the initial coordinate, for instance, so sometimes a reimport is (was) necessary.
So our survey crews "overwrite" points in the field for bad rod heights, angles, descriptions, etc... During the LDD import process that point number is flagged and I am given the option to overwrite/average/etc.... In Civil 3D I seem to be stuck with an average of the two observations, and I'm not even alerted about which point numbers come from these "multiple observations." So I've no idea without sifting through the often substantial list of point numbers which points have duplicate data connected to them.
I've combed through the import options and I just don't see what I'm looking for, which, in a phrase, is to be alerted when there are duplicate numbers in the fieldbook.
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Aug 9, 2012
I have a .dwg file with an AT-LCC projection assigned to it. There are some .shp files connected to it.
Can I choose the projection of to-be-imported-points when I import some laserscan-files in ASCII format? So I can tell AutoCAD: these points are in MGI-AT.AUT-Central/GK projection, please convert them to my desired projection.
There is a method which takes much too long:
open a new document assign the origin-projection (here; MGI-AT.AUT-Central/GK) to the fileimport the pointsexport the points as .shp file, define a projection-system conversion to target projection (here: AT-LCC)open the file with the target projection assigned to it (here: AT-LCC)import the .shp file
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Jul 11, 2013
Our Surveyor created the Point Styles and description keys for processing our field work. These were incorporated in our template. Yesterday he brought in field work an noticed that only a few of the symbols incorporated into the markers came in.
The blocks exist in the drawing but when you go to edit the point marker only 8 out of 152 blocks show in the window below "Use AutoCAD BLOCK symbol for marker". I tried a backup of that template from 5 months ago and got the same results. I've verified that the blocks still exist in the drawing both by listing them and exploring them in Design Center. If I try other templates the window shows all the blocks.
I have tried Audit and Recover with no improvement. Thirteen errors fixed but the blocks still don't show. Additionally I found a backup of the template from Feb., 2013 and get the same problem but the lack of blocks only just occurred.
This is an example showing the depleted block list:
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May 23, 2013
Sometimes when i import points Civil 3d creates a Point group in the drawing with the name of the point file, sometime it does not. I prefer when it does create this point group. It always seems to create a Survey Point Group. How do i control wether or not a point group is created in the import?
Civil 3D 2013
HP Z400 Workstation
6GB of RAM
296GB HDD
ATI FirePro V5700(FireGL)
Win 7 Home Professional
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Jan 8, 2014
Is there a way to create automatic Point Groups when importing points? Sort of like a Desc Key for layers? I know it probably is impossible but I have to ask.
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Feb 7, 2013
I’ve run into an issue with importing survey data using field books.
I started by importing my primary control using a field book. There were no issues with importing these points. I then proceeded to import subsequent field books with additional control and then topographic mapping. In the last field book some points were accidentally overwritten due to an error in the field collection. No error message was given to let me know the survey points were in use and being overwritten. Luckily I caught the error before I proceeded to the next field book.
I tried to reimport the field book that originally created the points that were overwritten. At that point C3D told me that the points being occupied in the field book did not exist. I checked the point list for the primary control field book under the "Import Events" in the Survey Tab of the Toolspace and indeed the points in question were no longer listed.
I then proceeded to reimport all the field books in order, starting with the primary control. I got through several of field books before C3D again told me the point being occupied did not exist. This despite the fact that this same point was occupied in previous field books. After trying once again I was able to get through the field books.
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Dec 13, 2012
Civil3D - have surface from contours (plines), breaklines, etc. Have been able to edit TIN to add points or move them in the past (I think). Recently, I can't add or move points through the TIN edit. I'm guessing something I changed (maybe recent update), variable, etc
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Jan 2, 2014
I am unable to delete points from my survey database. What could be preventing me from performing this task?
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