Photoshop :: Converted SRGB Images From Wide Gamut Monitor To Look Good In Browser?
Nov 1, 2012
So, after many trials and studying websites that take images seriously on different monitors I'm considering giving up trying to get converted sRGB images from my wide gamut monitor to look good in my browser. Sure if you convert to sRGB, in a wide gamut setup, the image will look good on old monitors.
BUT it won't look good on the new ones. Nobody talks about that. It really seems that some of the high end coporate sites are already converting to adobeRGB and putting images on the web that are converted to AdobeRGB and not sRGB. The photos look great in my browser on my wide gamut monitor and those sites' photos seem washed out on the sRGB monitors I used on the same sites.
There is no way for me to know for sure sinced the images are untagged but when I download them and apply the AdobeRGB profile to them, it looks just like in the browser. The sRGB profile washes out the image. Look at [URL] ....
I've just installed a new Dell 2408WFP wide gamut monitor and will be using it with PS photo editing. I plan to purchase an Xrite i1Display2 for calibrating this monitor. I'm a bit confused by some postings in other forums about whether a WG monitor can be properly calibrated by this (and similar) colorimeters.
I have a wide gamut monitor (HP LP2475w) which has already been calibrated. My question isn't so much about that, but the settings I should be using inside of Photoshop (CS5). As far as color settings (ctrl+shift+k) goes, what am I supposed to use? I have sRGB as the rgb working space right now. (never use CMYK), Gray % Spot = dot gain 20%, and preserve profiles are ticked on for all 3. Am I supposed to be using Adobe RGB in RGB working space to get the most out of my monitor? I'm asking because it would be embarrassing if I had a wide gamut monitor and am working within a sRGB color cap. What are the proper photoshop color settings, so that it works well across the board (browser compatibility, etc)
I am a professional digital artist who specialize in illustrations for print campaigns. So far from what I've seen, whatever's been printed out of what I produce from this monitor has come out pretty much looking the same, so I'm not worried about that. Again, I just want to make sure I'm not careless and am using settings which doesn't make use of a wide gamut monitor.
When I have sRGB selected as my color space in Photoshop (CS6), often I see the out of gamut warning in the color picker. I expected every possible sRGB color value to be within the sRGB color gamut, but apparently I was wrong. I would like to see a horseshoe color space diagram that shows how far the values extend beyond the gamut.
I guess this occurs with all color spaces - you can select color values that are outside of the gamut. I'm not sure what the color space diagrams represent, but I'm guessing they represent the gamut.
A very similar problem as discussed, but not solved before:[URL]...Planar 26-inch Wide gamut LCD, Eye One Display 2 and latest Lightroom. Just upgraded to Win7 64bit and kaboom. After hardware calibration and profiling all colors in Windows looks great but pictures from my camera (GF2) look dull in LR and don't match what I see when save for Web and look through the web.
Same images opened on calibrated XP machine looks fine, all colors are as expected. If I don't use hardware calibration on Win7 machine and just tweak the sliders in control panel->color management the colors look somewhat off but not dull and consistent and behave as I expect and used to. I've tried both ColorEyes DisplayPro and i1 Match programs in simple and advance modes with the similar (bad) results.
Though not really a PS question, this is the community that is likely to understand my concern. I'm investigating getting a wide gamut monitor( prob Eizo or NEC), but other forums say that there are issues. Some of you are probably using wide gamut monitors, so I thought I'd see what you think.
The concerns seem to be when using the monitor for non-imaging applications, since not all other applications are color managed. "They" say that sRGB JPG's look especially bad on the webb. I would think color managed stuff should be OK. What do you guys think? Worth it or not?
I'm aiming to take RAW photo files, edit them in a wide color space, and when posting them to the web, save them as sRGB.
My workspace is as follows:
I open RAW files in Photoshop via ACR as 16-bit ProPhoto smart objects. When I finish editing them, I use "Save for Web" with the "Convert to sRGB" and "Embed Color Profile" boxes checked.
Photoshop and Bridge tell me the profile in photos saved as such is sRGB as expected. When I upload to a site like flickr, however, the metadata says the photo is still in ProPhoto. See an example here: [URL]...If I use "Convert to Profile" and change it to sRGB, then upload to flickr, the metadata says the photo is in sRGB, as it should be.
After updating to LR 3.6, DNG Profile Editor does not display previews correctly, if base profile is one of the "new technology" camera specific profiles (for example the v4 profiles for Nikon). It looks like the previews are not properly converted to sRGB for display.
I also noticed that if I decompile and then compile such a profile using dcptool of Chromasoft, the resulting profile generates very strange looking pictures.
I'm editing an sRGB image. My custom proof condition is set to sRGB IEC, preserve numbers unchecked, intent PER or RC, BPC. Gamut warning is turned on.
I add some text and color it using the text color selector tool. I enable gamut warning in that and choose an out of gamut color such as #ff0000. I return to the image and the the text is *not* flagged as being out of gamut.
In fact *no* color flagged as OOG in the selector seems to be considered OOG once I return to the image with sRGB IEC selected, though they are when I select other devices to simulate.
Why the disparity between the image OOG warning and the selector tool? Is the tool using a different simulated device to that I've selected?
I'm having a bizarre, when I try to convert any color profile from Adobe RBG to sRBG to ensure better viewing colors on the web. I actually go through the process twice to confirm that I've done it -- I convert the image's color profile to sRBG under the "Edit" drop-down menu, then I double check to make sure that sRGB is selected when I go through the "Save for Web" option under the "File" drop-down menu. The converted images still look muddy when posted online, and it always puzzled me why when I open them up again in PS, it tells me that the image has no Color Profile, and I need to assign it one. I would just ignore the message, thinking it didn't apply because I had already done it twice previously. The other day, I opened up one of my twice-converted sRGB images and when prompted, assigned the profile to sRBG a THIRD time. Finally the image came out perfectly on the web. Now whenever I make that third sRGB conversion on web images, the profile remains permanent. This just makes no sense to me. I should only have to convert the profile once.
I'm saving JPEG or TIFF images (in Adobe RGB or ProPhoto RGB) with the "save for web" and with the "convert to sRGB" option checked ... then after opening them in Photoshop again, their color spaces turn to "untagged RGB". What should I do for getting sRGB images from the "save for web" dialog?
I was given the follwoing info. but not sure it answers fully - it still doesn't resolve the problem of converting to CMYK with the icc profile. I think this might be an option if the profile is loaded into the colour setting (colour settings under edit menu as oposed to convert to profile and its convert to profile I have been trying to action. Am I missing something straightforward?
you can do batch process in Photoshop
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-There is a fast and easy method to batch convert many RGB photographs to CMYK files by using Photoshop
-Please open an image, then open the Action Tab (Window > Actions)
-Please click 'Create new action' button, name the action in the text field and click the 'Record' button.
-Now it is recording, so select 'Image > Mode > CMYK Color', then hit the 'Stop' button in the Action Tab.
-The action is now created ready for the next step.
-To batch convert a folder of images, just select 'File > Automate > Batch' and the following window opens.
-Choose the 'Convert RGB to CMYK' action from the drop-down list, choose the source folder where your images are stored, then choose a destination folder where Photoshop will save the converted images.
-Click the 'OK' button and the batch process will start. How fast will depend on the number of images that need converting.
-The action you created will be stored, so you only need to perform a new batch process the next time you need to convert a batch of images.
I have got a logo that is 451 x197. It has a resolution of 72 px. I am trying to increase the resolution so that I can use the image for business cards and letterhead.
I need for the image to have a width of about 2500 pixels. If I scale the image to 2500 pixels the edges look pixelized or blurry.
My question is: Is there a way that I can make the 471 px logo stretch to 2500 px and still have sharp edges?
i converted 1,900 images to dng from raw in lightroom to make shure the 2 weeks 62 hours of work croping & adjusting to be perfect to give bride & groom would be saved but there is no adjustments to them when i open photos where are all my adjustments. find xmp sidecar.
With the text tool (GIMP 2.8.6, Ubuntu 13.10) I cannot seem to produce very good text in my images. Text is always muddy, jaggy, etc. Fiddling with hinting and anti-alias never gets me very far.
If you open up fifty images and they open on the secondary monitor, not the primary monitor as you wished, any way to quickly get the all on the primary one? Did this happen because the last image I opened I dragged to 2nd monitor?
I just upgraded to LR4. I have a number of images that I converted to black and white using Silver Efex pro directly from Lightroom 3. I also have scans of images from black and white negatives in my catalog. When updating these images from process 2010 to process 2012 in LR4 each image becomes ever so slightly warmer (dirtier) on the screen. I noticed this because when updating the process I checked the review changes via before/after box. Some of the images where tweaked a bit in lightroom 3, others not. Strange thing is that when I run the cursor over the images the RGB values in the histogram are exactly the same in the before and after images.
I would have to say the before looks cleaner and more neutral. I don't mind using process 2010 for previously worked on images; however, it does seem to defeat the purpose of upgrading.
I'm using CS2, and images look different between photoshop and firefox 3. I'm sure this has something to do with color profiles,
I'm not very concerned about how the images compare across different computers, but I need the same image to look the same in photoshop and firefox on my computer.
I'm using photoshop 7 which is enough for me. about my problem, I can temporarely fix it by going to View -> Proof Setup -> Monitor RGB but I feel something needs to be replaced to make a permanent fix, maybe photoshop has stored previous monitor's colors values and is loading it when I load photoshop
I use CS-3 on a Windows XP Home platform which uses 2 monitors, the second of which is not color-calibrated. I was just sorting through a number of lunar eclipse images, which I opened in miniature windows on the main monitor. In order to make more room for the most recent image, I dragged one of the images to monitor #2. Now, I cannot move it back to the main monitor. Moreover, all images now open onto monitor #2, regardless whether I open from ACR or from PS itself. I have maximized and minimized the image on monitor #2, but this does not help. Although I can move the image around within monitor #2, I cannot move it back onto monitor #1.
We've just upgraded a Samsung 21" monitor to a Samsung 30" (305T).
In just TWO applications, Photoshop CS3 and Windows Photo Gallery (Vista64), all photographic images are much too dark. Not subtly, about 3-4 f-stops too dark.
EVERY other of our applications INCLUDING ADOBE BRIDGE AND FIREWORKS, and even Photoshop itself during Save to Web, displays the photos as they should appear.
I've tried setting various profiles in Windows Color Management as the default, including the ICC profile sRGB IEC61966-2.1 (which my reading says we should be using), as well as WCS profiles sRGB virtual and scRGB virtual, and tried using no profile at all. None of these changes makes any apparent difference at all to the images we're seeing.
In Photoshop, I've tried various options too. If set to Monitor Color (Monitor RGB - * wscRGB) Photoshop then displays images as it should. However the Camera Raw display when loading Nikon images is still much too dark, and the Photoshop Save to Web images are much too light. Arrrgh!
The monitor does not include any driver software, just electronic documentation (poorly edited) which offers no advice about this. I've seen references to various Gamma utilities, but not sure that's what I need. Is it?
I've read that among the new functions Adobe added to the CS File Browser is the ability to sort selected images on a number of fields, for example date/time created, file size, image width, height, etc.
Question for CS users who use Batch...
Once images are selected and sorted in the desired sequence using the CS File Browser sort function, does this mean that when one invokes the Batch dialog (either from the FB menu or the File > Automate menu and Source=File Browser) the images will be batch processed in the sorted order?
In PS7 (and earlier versions) the order of batch processing has always been in alphabetical file name order.
I work on a Mac with three monitors. My primary monitor is in the middle. I often will drag images to one of the side monitors where they'll stay open while I'm working on other images. But Photoshop will open the next image I choose on the side monitors where I've got images open.
I want all new images to open on my primary monitor, always. Is there a way to define which monitor images will open on?
Upgraded to LR4. When selecting the 2nd monitor (Gateway) all photo images show as dim dull dark greyed out. If I move LR window from primary (NEC) to the Gateway all menu items and selections normal. All images are dull dim grey including the histogram. Selecting 2nd monitor feature places Loupe on primary display (NEC) works just fine.
If I reset Windows 7 and designate primary monitor as Gateway the problem remains unchanged.
If I place main LR window on Gateway and then select preview of 2nd monitor (CTRL-click) the pop up window renders correctly on the Gateway.
Turned off all icc profiles for monitors no improvement.
Windows 7PRo 64-bit 8GB RAM quad processor all drivers up to date. NVidia card up to date.
Other non LR windows programs and images opened on the second monitor look just fine. The Gateway will render correctly the 2nd monitor pop up preview image; so the monitor will properly display.
If I have some time I will go back to LR3 and double check that everything works fine.
1. I'm using CS1 and have installed my printer profile. I assume this will show me what the colors will look like when I convert the photo to the printer's color space (to do this I usually choose IMAGE - MODE -CONVERT TO PROFILE Why then when I turn on the Gamut Warning, does it show that there are colors out of gamut?
2.When I load a photo with an embedded profile and I choose the option of USE THE EMBEDDED PROFILE INSTEAD OF THE WORKING SPACE do I still need to go to PROOF SETUP and choose the printer profile to see the colors as they will look when printed? Or is this doubling-up on the conversion process. I would have thought that choosing the printer profile to proof a photo that has already been converted to the printer color space should not show any difference. Unfortunately it does, so I'm not sure which is the accurate one.
So I've been having this issue with Photoshop ever since I started using it on my Windows machine. On my Mac. I could set something to any color and it would appear that way on the screen in RGB mode. However, when I try and do that with the same exact color on my Windows machine it appears in black. I don't have Gamut Warnings on either. However, when I switch the mode to CMYK the color appears. The problem with this is I use photoshop for GUI's and such, not print materiel so if I have it show in CMYK Mode it will give me an inacurate look at how the colors will look.
