Photoshop :: Why Use ProPhoto RGB Color Space With Standard Gamut Monitor
Jun 11, 2013
1. Is there any benefit to using the ProPhoto color space when one's monitor is only standard (sRGB) gamut?
1a. Ditto Adobe RGB with a standard gamut monitor.
- What is the use of retaining more colors if you can't see them?
2. Are there any possible DISadvantages to using a wider colorspace than you can see?
3. If printing, how can you softproof your photos and visualize the printer output, if the file contains colors you can't see on your monitor?
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Apr 7, 2012
I have a wide gamut monitor (HP LP2475w) which has already been calibrated. My question isn't so much about that, but the settings I should be using inside of Photoshop (CS5). As far as color settings (ctrl+shift+k) goes, what am I supposed to use? I have sRGB as the rgb working space right now. (never use CMYK), Gray % Spot = dot gain 20%, and preserve profiles are ticked on for all 3. Am I supposed to be using Adobe RGB in RGB working space to get the most out of my monitor? I'm asking because it would be embarrassing if I had a wide gamut monitor and am working within a sRGB color cap. What are the proper photoshop color settings, so that it works well across the board (browser compatibility, etc)
I am a professional digital artist who specialize in illustrations for print campaigns. So far from what I've seen, whatever's been printed out of what I produce from this monitor has come out pretty much looking the same, so I'm not worried about that. Again, I just want to make sure I'm not careless and am using settings which doesn't make use of a wide gamut monitor.
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Nov 4, 2012
why Light-room was set up to use the ProPhoto RBG Color Space?
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Oct 5, 2012
I'm editing an sRGB image. My custom proof condition is set to sRGB IEC, preserve numbers unchecked, intent PER or RC, BPC. Gamut warning is turned on.
I add some text and color it using the text color selector tool. I enable gamut warning in that and choose an out of gamut color such as #ff0000. I return to the image and the the text is *not* flagged as being out of gamut.
In fact *no* color flagged as OOG in the selector seems to be considered OOG once I return to the image with sRGB IEC selected, though they are when I select other devices to simulate.
Why the disparity between the image OOG warning and the selector tool? Is the tool using a different simulated device to that I've selected?
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Dec 25, 2008
I've just installed a new Dell 2408WFP wide gamut monitor and will be using it with PS photo editing. I plan to purchase an Xrite i1Display2 for calibrating this monitor. I'm a bit confused by some postings in other forums about whether a WG monitor can be properly calibrated by this (and similar) colorimeters.
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Nov 1, 2012
So, after many trials and studying websites that take images seriously on different monitors I'm considering giving up trying to get converted sRGB images from my wide gamut monitor to look good in my browser. Sure if you convert to sRGB, in a wide gamut setup, the image will look good on old monitors.
BUT it won't look good on the new ones. Nobody talks about that. It really seems that some of the high end coporate sites are already converting to adobeRGB and putting images on the web that are converted to AdobeRGB and not sRGB. The photos look great in my browser on my wide gamut monitor and those sites' photos seem washed out on the sRGB monitors I used on the same sites.
There is no way for me to know for sure sinced the images are untagged but when I download them and apply the AdobeRGB profile to them, it looks just like in the browser. The sRGB profile washes out the image. Look at [URL] ....
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Nov 2, 2012
After reading many webpages and watching many tutorial videos about which color space to use, I get odd results. I understand that sRGB is more for web applications, and that Adobe RGB 1998 has a wider gamut, and that ProPhoto has the widest gamut of colors, particularly useful with printing.
However, in LR 4, when I export to jpeg as sRGB, Adobe RGB, and ProPhoto, the differences are very noticeable. sRGB looks the most vibrant, Adobe RGB looks flat, and ProPhoto looks dark with a greenish cast. I expected ProPhoto to look best, or is that only for printing, and I have to process differently?
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Jun 3, 2012
Well, it looks like I edited an image in ProPhoto RGB and now when I save as JPEG I get a color change (always looks warmer, like a change in white balance.)
When I convert to another profile, the color change. Is there anyway to either convert and get my colors back or as to JPEG with the color's I'm getting in photoshop? What is odd is I'll see a nice white background in PS and even in the thumbnail. But if I open it in anything but PS I get color change.
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Jul 16, 2006
When you click the color picker and you choose a color, sometimes the "gamut warning" box appears.
(1) What is gamut?
(2) When I choose a color and the box appears, should I click on it or should I just ignore?
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Jul 21, 2012
I have decided to put an DDR5 ATI card in my new Win7-64 build for editing photographs, compositing, etc. As I have used nVidia up to now I am unfamiliar with the ATI lines.
I have looked at both discussions here and the ATI site, but it isn't clear which cards will best drive my ASUS higher-gamut monitor. I have to build a new system right now. (Willl not overclock a i7-3770 or use two GPU cards linked with Crossfire. No plans for any gaming.) I would also like to keep this part of the build at a couple hundred or less. I saw that FirePro boards range a lot higher than Radeon, which I realize is gaming-oriented.
I hope to get DVI and Displayport as outputs. I use two 24" monitors, and the older unit can accept only DVI (or VGA, which I would avoid.)Any thoughts about the current ATI line for higher gamut?
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Oct 11, 2012
What is the best way to get consistent color from one monitor to another. Is that even possible?
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Mar 7, 2014
I inherited a color from someone who has departed my company. It's a lovely, bright blue. He has rolled out this blue in all of our UI...that rebranding is complete. Now I come in to update the other corporate materials around this shade of blue only to find that it is out of gamut. When I click to correct it, I end up with a totally dull and lifeless shade of blue. The contrast between these two blues is really quite severe. No one except a color-blind person or maybe just a blind person would think they were the same. I am at my wit's end. One thing I am thinking of doing is getting one of those Pantone books and try to find a suitable blue using my own eyeballs because all of this has occurred on my computer monitor. Do you think I will find a better match that way or do you think Illustrator is tops at finding the right substitute?
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Dec 14, 2012
I am looking at an image which has some red areas that are out-of-gamut in the soft proof profile I'm using. It's difficult to preview the areas as red is used to highlight those areas. How can I change the red to be some other color?
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Mar 1, 2013
When I export RAW files, specifying that I want the output to be in sRGB color space the resulting files have the Adobe RGB color space. The same is true if I specify I want them in ProPhoto. Is this a bug? I have done it successfully in other versions of Lightroom, but not in 4.3.
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Oct 6, 2011
I'm new to drawing and I need getting my text/dimensions to be legible on an 11x17 sheet. I had no problems when my company used Arch D (24x36) but in an effort to "going green" we converted to the B size paper (11x17).
Any useful chart for plotting in different scales. Maybe a standard size chart. I usually print in 3/8", 1/2", 6", and full size paper space viewports.
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Oct 15, 2013
I have a CS3 version on two computers. The color is way off on one although the monitor is calibrated. I have cross checked the preferences against each one, but can not find a difference. How to fix?
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Nov 5, 2008
I use the eye dropper and pick a color.
I click the text button.
The "color box" in the "text bar" keeps the previous color and text comes out in that color, not the new one. (Different pictures)
Windows XP-Home SP3 2 gig memory
A work around it to:
Back out of the color tool
Save the file
Reopen the file
Re-Pick the color
Then I get what I need as text color.
This seems to have come up in the last couple of weeks. At least I don't recall it happening earlier.
Is this a "Zap Preferences To Cure" thing or??
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Nov 17, 2012
I have the following problem, I would like to select in Photoshop, edit, color setting ProPho RGB as working space but for some reason it is not there, meaning I cannot select it.
Do I have to enable or install this somehow?
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Aug 24, 2012
I'm having a strong color shift in Photoshop going from one monitor to another. It's not a calibration issue because the color shift persists when I drag the window from one to another until I do something with the window, then it will shift (i.e. not exactly when I move the window). I'm essentially experiencing the problem described here, only I'm on Photoshop CS5 and his solution doesn't apply because that option is not available.
Windows 7 64bit
Photoshop CS 5 (12.1 x64)
Note the color change, one part of that image is on one monitor, and the other part on the other. (The left is the correct color fwiw.)
I'm guessing there's just some setting somewhere I can toggle?
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Sep 12, 2012
Gear: MacBook Pro, Photoshop CS5, Wacom Cintiq 12WX as second display, Mac OS X 10.7.4
Problem: Photoshop seems to only use the Monitor Profile of the main display (i.e. the one with the menu bar in System Preferences>Displays>Arrangement) - some people say yes, this is the case, some people say no, Photoshop uses independent profiles for each display.
Manifestation: If I set my MacBook screen to the main display, color looks good in Photoshop on the MacBook and terrible on the Wacom and vice-versa. However, in Lightroom and other applications changing the main display makes no difference to the output on each display.
Preferred solution: I would like to have my MacBook as my main display with menu bars and dock etc, but then I want the Cintiq to be the display I use in Photoshop, for obvious reasons. In my workflow, I would like to have my image open in 2 windows, one on the Cintiq for retouching and one on the MacBook to check progress and color etc
Curveball: I have a trial of CS6 and the problem seems to be fixed.
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Jul 28, 2004
When a piece is going to be printed in a magazine or even output to a desktop printer I have found that the color on the monitor (yes it is calibrated) bears very little relation to the printed product. Just curious as to what you guys do to compensate. Do you work brighter and more colorfully on the screen knowing that things are going to darker up in the translation?
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Feb 18, 2006
When ever I save any of my works as a picture (png, jpg, gif, etc.) it always seems to save darker than what I see on screen. To get it to save right I have to work in my "monitor color" (name of the setting) then assign profile (edit-->assign profile) of sRGB IEC61966-2.1 to brighten it then save it and,
it saves it like I want. Is there a way I can fix this so that it will save as my monitor color without having to go through all that?
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Jun 21, 2013
I recently started using PS CS6 and edit the photos in ProPhoto. My stock agency requires flattened TIFF images for submission. They look fine when I send them, however after they load them on the site the colors are very flat. I understand that when saving for web I must save and convert to sRgb. Is there something I need to do to the TIFF file prior to submitting or is this something that needs to be resolved by the agency prior ot loading on the site?
Here are links to
1) a side by side comparison
2) the image as it appears on the stock site
URLs....
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Feb 20, 2012
I have recently purchased LG IPS225V Flat Screen monitor and installed CS5 trial version. But as I try to run it I get an error message that the "LG IPS225V monitor color profile is corrupted, run the calibration wizard" and then there are two buttons labelled: "Ignore Profile" or "Use Anyway". This is a new monitor and it is considered to be providing the best factory calibrated color.
I have other free editing programs like Picasa 3, Pain.net etc.
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Sep 17, 2013
In a file with several layers, my monitor temporarily blacks out when adjusting colors in a Selective Color adjustment layer. Is there a solution?I changed the Advanced Graphics Processor Settings to "Normal" from "Advanced." Seems better but am I losing performance?
Adobe Photoshop Version: 14.1.1 (14.1.1 20130910.r.414 2013/09/10:23:00:00) x64
Operating System: Windows 8 64-bit
Version: 6.2
System architecture: AMD CPU Family:15, Model:1, Stepping:2 with MMX, SSE Integer, SSE FP, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2
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Jul 29, 2013
I have a 16 bit, ProPhoto tif file in .psb format. My question is, if I convert it to sRGB and then back to ProPhoto will I get the original ProPhoto colorspace or will it be lost? BTW, does the same hold true for converting in .dng?
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Aug 13, 2013
How to set output to ProPhoto RGB and 16 bit Tiff when converting RAW files in ACR? Using PS6.
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Jun 26, 2011
Missing ProPhoto RGB and Mini Bridge in CS5 version 12.0.4?
I am missing the ProPhoto RGB in the Color Settings in Photoshop CS5.
Also the Mini Bridge in Photoshop CS5 just shows Waiting for Bridge, but never retrieves anything.
Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, Intel i5, 4GB Ram, ATI Radeon 5400
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Jan 7, 2009
i've just started using photoshop CS4 and noticed today that enabling OpenGL drawing under performance preferences (GPU settings) disables color management for my 2nd dual monitor.
2.4ghz intel core 2 duo, 4GB 667mhz, mac os 10.5.6 (fully updated 1/7/09)
GeForce 8600M GT, 256MB
photoshop cs4
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Oct 22, 2012
How do I calibrate my Samsung monitor and PE 11?
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May 15, 2012
I've noticed that if I convert the same image to multiple color spaces and apply a 3D LUT with the new Color Lookup adjustment, the result is noticeably different. From experimenting, it seems that the lookup tables operate on whatever RGB value is given to them no matter what color space.
Is there a certain color space these were optimized for? For instance, would a certain color space give me a more authentic 2-strip look than another because of the space they were sampled in? And if I create my own 3D LUTs, would I have to create a separate one for each color space in order to get a consistent look in all spaces?
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