Lightroom :: Cropping Virtual Copy Crops Original Image?
Apr 5, 2012
In LR 4, I have created a virtual copy for the purpose of cropping, but when I crop it in Develop, the original image is getting cropped as well. Have I misunderstood something?
Mac OS X 10.6.8
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May 15, 2013
When soft proofing, I split the image horizontally and then create proof image when asked after making first alteration.However, in both LR4.4 and 5Beta, both the original and virtual (i.e., proofing image) change.
Have l Brightness value of 55 in original. Proofed image is duller. Increase brightness in proof by 10 to match original. (Figures are just for explanation) Now when I compare images again, original image brightness has increased by 10 also. This can be seen, of course, on the Develop panel.
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Dec 28, 2011
When I import images into Lightroom 3 on my iMac I do so as DNG. Do I need to make a Virtual Copy of an image before I begin editing it? Is the imported DNG the Master and it will not be touched by editing, and is it safe or do I have to back it up on my hard drive---or is that done automatically?
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Apr 1, 2012
I sometimes use a trick of creating a virtual copy to get a text element of a NxN image. For example, I might use 8 images for a 3x3 and need a fourth "image" (i.e., column 1, row 2) for text. I like to take image 3 and make a virtual copy, then get that looking the way I want as my text box. When I print, I don't have to create a collection to order my images as long as the sequence-taken, along with the text box in position 4, is okay. I guess in LR 3, the virtual copy sorted after the original.
Well, I just tried the trick and the virtual copy comes before the original. I still wanted to shy away from creating a collection, so played another trick - I used the option to change the capture time under the Library module's Metadata menu, and bumped the text box up 1 second later. But the sort hasn't changed! I even forced a reconsideration of the sort by changing from capture time sort to added time sort, then back again.
Though I'm being "devious" here, it does seem to not be working correctly. Maybe sorting ignores metadata of virtual copy images?
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Oct 28, 2006
Does anyone know how I can crop an image, but keep the original proportions of the image? Is there a way to crop and manually set the crop size?
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Mar 11, 2012
Is there any way to force Snapshots and Virtual Copies to read metadata from the original raw file after an update of the same?
I had to change the lens name on some Leica M9 files to correct an operator (me) error, and I did it by editing the exif data with an exif editor and then forcing LR4 to read the metadata from the file. This worked well for everithing but the snapshots and the virtual copies on which the metadata remain as originally registered, unchanged.
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Aug 26, 2013
For this example let's take in account that I have 2 identical in every aspect copies (meaning size and content at this point) of the very same image.
1st remains unedited,
2nd is edited only as far as concerning the image > adjustments menu through changing mostly channel mixer, selective color, saturation etc values and had an object attached to it atop of the original depiction before being edited as a whole.
What I want to do is to edit the 1st image, compare in some certain ways the colors of it I guess with the ones of the 2nd, match for instance where color hex value X (and horizontal/vertical X,Y coords - is it needed in order to be more precise and avoid mistakes?) (I guess again) from the 1st image is edited into color (or even additional settings atop of that?) hex value Z, do that automatically for all the combinations and immediately apply the same changes I applied from 2nd pic when unedited (and looked exactly like 1st pic) to the very same 2nd pic in start, TO the 1st pic in the present case. Also in order to do this "color matching" before applied or not I need to set out-seperate the area where I have added an additional object in the 2nd picture and fill it possibly with the original content from the 1st(can it be done in one move) in order for the process to be complete?
That means I turned the 2nd image into a combination of blue-green-red colour (and other) from orange-yellow-cyan (just an example) I want to do the very same to my 1st pic which is orange-yellow-cyan etc.
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Sep 4, 2013
I have an image from a 7D to which I have only applied Enable Lens Profile, Remove CA, Constrain to warp, Manual Vert Perspective and Crop with Constrain Aspect Ratio Switched off.
The cropped dimensions of this image is now 2763 x 4472.
If I copy all settings and paste to a fresh untouched virtual copy of this image the resulting size is 2752 x 4453. The shot is part of a bracketed tripod shoot in AV mode, if I copy and paste to the other two untouched images the resulting size is also 2752 x 4453.
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Mar 26, 2014
I need to make a series of subtle corrections to match an output. I want to use Virtual copies. But I can't see how I can for instance label copy 1 "Reduced Saturation" or "-10 Clarity"
With several VCs of the same original image, If I try to change something in meta data it copies over to its siblings as well.
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Dec 13, 2012
Just upgraded Lr 4.2 to 4.3. Where is "make virtual copy the master"? It use to be a selection in the "Photo" main menu.
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Apr 1, 2009
Is it possible to make a VC where the copy hase the detail of the changes made to the original.
Currently, all the changes are in the copy, but the detailed history of changes is not there. This precludes making the same backward steps that one could do with the original.
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Dec 5, 2011
In Windows Lightroom (3.5 at the moment), if I select one or more images and then, on the left, right click and create a new collection, I'm given the option of creating new virtual copies of the selected images for inclusion in the new collection. I use this all the time.
However, once the collection is created, I've not found a simple, one-step method to add virtual copies of additional images to that collection. Best I've come up with is the three step process: create a virtual copy, drag the virtual copy to the collection, and then remove the virtual copy from the folder/collection where I created it. It would be far cooler if there was, say, a keyboard shortcut, e.g. alt-click-drag or something, that would do this all in one step. Is there such a method?
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Dec 30, 2013
I've completed a book and want to make sure that when I return to it, the pictures which will appear only if the edits I made at the time I published the book. I find a "create virtual copy" option when first saving a book, but am a bit befuddled as to how to ensure the book is associated with the correct copy of the photo upon subsequent saves.
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Aug 13, 2013
Only one folder is being effected. I remove the Read only and it is reset back again.
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Jul 8, 2012
I'm using Corel Draw 12 and on some of my computers, if I resize or flip an image the original image remains on screen as well as the resized or flipped version. On other computers it doesn't happen.
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Aug 27, 2013
I have many files which I created by making a copy of the original and editing it. I have the original file with no edit history. The copy which shows the results of the editing is marked as a missing file and the edit history is greyed out. Both file share the same name with the exception that one is a copy. Is there any way to re-link these files? When I try to search for the missing file and point to the original, it tells me that the file is already linked to a file and can't be linked to a second file.
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Jan 21, 2014
I have been working on a file in photoshop cs5 that had come from lightroom 5.3. This was then saved (automatically becomes tiff file in Lightroom). I then wanted to make some more adjustments to it in lightroom (using local adjustment clarity). I then tried to copy the settings of the adjustment brush from the tiff to the original raw file. This is where it gets very strange. The adjustments are copied but they are rotated ccw by 90 degrees! I can replicate this every time.
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Sep 4, 2013
I am currently using Lightroom 4.4
Recently I have been asked for certain images taken in 2011.
When searching for them I have discovered that the original capture information has been "gone missing / become lost".
For clarity, the information I'm referring to is the ACTUAL capture date and time of the original image as appears in the raw file metadata.
This data no longer appears on ANY of the subsequent version of any image taken in that year whether PSD or Jpeg.From checks already carried out, the data remains on the original RAW files.
All other years are OK.How can I transfer the date & time of the original image capture from the raw file to subsequents copies (PSD / Jpegs etc)? As literally hundreds of images are involved, is there a bulk routine that I can perform to synchronise this data?
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Jun 6, 2013
I have created virtual copies of an image in Lightroom 4 and I am wondering what will happen to these if I delete the folder containing the master image and its virual copies from the LR4 catalog? Will the virtual copies be automatically deleted? If so, is this reversible in any way? Will i recover these virual copies if I add the folder back into LR's catalog later on?
Also will Adobe Bridge be able to read these virtual copies in both before and even after the folder has been removed from LR4? Or is the 'virtual copy' functionality specific to LR and that the only way to preserve it is to keep the original image within LR and never delete it?
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Aug 14, 2012
I have been using LR for quite a while, but all of a sudden when I crop a photo, the image slides to the left or right and out of view.
In the past when I move the crop frame the photo would not move, that way I can see exactly how much of the photo I am cropping.
I have tried doing searches regarding a setting, but all I get are answers about locking the crop ratio and that is not what I need.
I need to keep the entire image in view when I slide the crop window.
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Jul 2, 2013
In gimp I have imported an image. I then duplicate the image four times (I am trying to make four different crops of the same image). But every time I crop one corner of the image, it automatically crops ALL OF THE OTHER DUPLICATES TOO!!!! I have tried just importing the same image four times as individual layers, but that doesn't work either! Why does one layer affect all of them?!
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Jul 10, 2011
When Rotating or Resizing an image I have recently run into an issue. This is new behavior so I think I either have something set incorrectly, or it came in with a recent re-install.
When Rotating or Resizing, and setting Clipping to Adjust, it always Crops the image.
In other words: If I were to attempt to stretch an image bigger than 1000x1000 to say 1500x1500 it appears to do all the correct calculations, and does stretch the image, but anything outside the original 1000x1000 disappears.
Likewise if I were to attempt to rotate an image that were say, 1000x1500, 90°, I would end up with a rotated image 1000x1000 in size, and transparent/background for the balance of the original 1000x1500 sized image.
I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling (it remembered all my settings, so I don't know how much good this might have done), setting the Clipping option to Clip, then Crop and back to Adjust again (also with no result).
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Aug 30, 2013
I must have dreamed this but I thought I saw that LR 5 had the ability to create a cropping overlay from an image. My goal is to create a quicker way to place a date on 5x7 and wallets so that it works for both prints. I want WHCC's wallet guide as an overlay.
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Dec 23, 2012
I am a Canon shooter but received some raw Nikon files from a fellow photographer. We've done this before and I've had no problems with his files - well, we have done this a number of times but before I used LR 4 (i.e., in LR 3 and before). With this batch, when I start cropping, the image gets stretched vertically, but is fine when I hit enter to commit the crop.
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Apr 6, 2012
I tend to always have a few pictures in rotation that I end up cropping multiple times when I am printing. Pictures where today I need to print a 4x6 and tomorrow it's a 5x7 of the same picture, etc. I am trying to figure out a way to save the file with that cropping. Ideally there would be a way that if I also modified anything else in the image that would also show up in the other versions. I know there is Create Virtual Copy, and that could work if I could then figure out how to change the file name so it would show that it was cropped for 5x7 or whatever.
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Jun 2, 2013
When I create a document on CD x6, I make it look just like I want it (some background showing around edges, under main content), but when I export it to an image file, it always crops it to the smallest possible size. Why is this, and how can I fix it?
See images below... 1st is what it looks like in CD, and 2nd is the exported image
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May 25, 2012
I want to crop an image visually, by sliding the cropping bars by eye. Not by typing in a specific size. How do I do that? My cropping tool seems to be set on some dimension. I've "reset" it, tried recropping from the "original" but still when I move the top horizontal bar in the cropping tool, it automatically is moving the vertical sides. As if a preset size/dimension/ratio is applied to it. Although I didn't apply any such dimension.
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Dec 16, 2013
I'm running on LR 5.3, but this problem persisted in LR 5.2. Working in PS CS6 and Camera Raw 8.3. RAWs are NEFs from a Nikon D600.
I can't figure out what happened but suddenly I am not getting prompts when moving from LR to PS to "Edit Original" or "Edit a Copy".
I reset all dialog warnings and nothing. The prompt will appear for TIFFs but not for NEFs.
It's kind of pointless to not be able to choose to edit an original or copy with LR adjustments for a RAW when they are the file types that retain my RAW editing information.
Plus, when I do click on a NEF and choose to edit in PS without the prompt (it will appear with lightroom adjustments, not as original), it will open a second icon for photoshop on my dock, and prompt me to continue trial? I have a version of PS installed with the serial plugged in, and in LR "edit in PS" for a TIFF will open this primary version.
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Nov 7, 2013
In the field I work in photoshop and save my images as a DNG on my laptop and when I return from assignment I import the DNG files into lightroom to keep as an archive. Worked great for years but for some reason I'm now losing the crops on the images when I import.
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Nov 21, 2012
There are times when I want to re-import an image but am not allowed to do so even when I un-check "do not allow duplicate imports"
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Jun 10, 2013
who has lightroom 5 tell me if its possible to remove the in camera crops from a 5d mark III? It wasn't possible with 4.4 without a plug in that I couldn't get to work anyway.I've shot two jobs before realizing the information was gone once imported.
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