Lightroom :: How To Force Snapshots And Virtual Copies To Read Metadata From Original Raw File
Mar 11, 2012
Is there any way to force Snapshots and Virtual Copies to read metadata from the original raw file after an update of the same?
I had to change the lens name on some Leica M9 files to correct an operator (me) error, and I did it by editing the exif data with an exif editor and then forcing LR4 to read the metadata from the file. This worked well for everithing but the snapshots and the virtual copies on which the metadata remain as originally registered, unchanged.
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Mar 7, 2012
I set up a smart collection with the setting of Metadata Status Is Conflict Detected and for some reason the collection has virtual copies in it which I created for darkening skies and such. Why virtual copies would be considered in conflict with files on the HD.
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Jan 13, 2013
I am having an issue that cropped up as of late - I try to create a virtual copy of a photo, but instead of the normal page-turn icon in the bottom left and it auto-expanding to show the copies, it just creates a stack, and says "2" or "1 of 2" and the double line bars on both sides of the preview in Grid Mode. Is there a setting that I changed that caused that?
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Jul 1, 2012
Isn't writing metadata to the XMP space of a file (jpeg or dng) altering the file? I assumed that non-destructive meant not changing the original file in any way, and this rewrites the file and thus changes the modification date. And if the Develop settings are included, then doesn't that confuse things as to which version will be displayed by an application that opens it? Do I need to store the original somewhere else? Or am I misunderstanding how this all works?
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Sep 15, 2013
I shot using an eye-fi card. The card autmatically generates a xmp file with geodata in it. LR auto imports these images and adds lens correction and a copy right tag.
What I can't do is automatically is get LR to read the xmp file and include this in the catalogue. I am having to right click images and select read metadata from file.
There must be a better work flow then this.
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Apr 28, 2013
On the v.c.'s I've already made (in Develope) I get no "Delete Virtual Copy" option, only get "Create Virtual Copy" with a right click or "Delete Photos" (which then deletes all copies and the original!).
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Apr 6, 2013
I installed LR4.4 and now it won't create virtual copies. It says it did but none show up. The show badges is still checked in view options.
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Dec 15, 2012
When I create virtual copies, the total number of instances of the image goes up but I don't see any of the virtual images. I unstack and it shows they're unstacked and "1 of 2" but I still can't see the other. I've turned off all filters and still nothing.It was happening in 4.3rc and is still happening in 4.3. It is only present in certain catalogs.
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May 30, 2013
1. Made virtual copies, count goes up, can't see them in grid in library, develop, or in loupe. Thought they were stacked, but when I went to Photo>stacking> the rest is all grayed out...can't do anything. "set as master copy" also grayed out,. Read somewhere "preferences for lightroom might be corrupt"???? I tried to do the thing in the library to correct the preferences,:(on moubntain lion 10.8.3), but in the user file there is no library...so I then looked up how to find the hidden library, but I can't find the stuff to do THAT!!! And, there IS a library on my hard drive, but when I open THAT up, there isn't anything about preferences.
I JUST bought this 2 mos ago--how can it have corrupt preferences when I only just started using it???--used it once, then discovered diddn't have right processor in old computer...bought a new computer...took several weeks to get (bought increased ram)...now I am just using for first time today. Started importing, but they are all coming up missing photoi (when I had lightroomn installed on old computer, I deleted uit and pics), then reinstalled and it was migrated over to this new computer. I looked up how to massive transfer missing photos and there is NO folder with a question mark, so I have to do hundreds and hundreds manually--can I tell you I am really hating LR4.4?
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Nov 13, 2012
When I created a virtual copy of an image in LR3, and then I renamed the images, the virtual copies would have the new name with a hyphen.i.e if there were two virtual copies associate with the file, the renamed sequence would be as follows jcp0001, jcp0001-1(vc), jcp0001-2(vc), jcp0004
This had the advantage of keeping my file numbers in sync when I uploaded them to my online lab (Pictage) and the client gave me a file name. In LR4 renaming sequencing doesn't take into account the virtual copies in terms of the chronological # and compensating for the vcs. So the same sequence would be jcp0001, jcp0001-copy(vc), jcp0001-copy2(vc), jcp0002..This has the affect of misalignment my files with those of the online host.
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Apr 2, 2013
When exporting images, how do I export/save all of the original metadata to the file(s) when using LR4?
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May 23, 2012
I am currently making virtual copies of all my photographs converting them to black & white I am then choosing which one to keep. If I keep the original no problem, I can remove the virtual copy however if I choose the virtual copy I have to keep the original copy or export the virtual one. Is there a way I can make the original the virtual copy and the virtual the original. As things stand I have loads of photos showing in lightroom that I do not want.
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Nov 30, 2013
I can't determine if I've encountered a bug or operator oversight. From within LR 5.2 I opened an adjusted [NEF] file in PSCC (not as a smart object) and added adjustment layers, etc. With file still open in PS, I returned to LR, made a virtual copy, changed LR adjustments, and attempted to "Edit in..." I simply get referred back to the existing canvas. I'd like to work with both, side by side, and save when I'm ready.
LR 5.2
PSCC
OS 10.8.5
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Oct 5, 2013
I recently upgraded to LR 5 and discovered that many of my virtual copies were missing.I've found them in a previous library backup and was wondering what the best way to import them was considering that the images are dispersed over dozens of different folders.
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Sep 5, 2013
If you export a group of photos as a Catalog, does this export all virtual copies including their own repsective xmp data? I need to send a batch of RAW files to someone but need them to be able to see all the virtual copies as well.
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Mar 20, 2014
Is there any way to find virtual copies in smart collections without using "copy name is not empty" ? Basically I am trying to use copy name as a version number for all images, include the base image which is the original. But this then makes it difficult to find the actual copies themselves.
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Jul 26, 2013
BW Virtual Copies revert to Color when exported and then the BW adjustment disappears when i reopen LR.Has not happened before and i am doing a lot of BW Virtual Copies using the V shortcut, so its incredibly tedious to can back and redo each one.
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Jul 29, 2012
I can not remember to have encountered this before, so here I go: I just created a virtual copy of some photos from my summer holiday, and all works well. But when I needed to access these photos going the Windows' way (Windows/My Pictures that is), the virtual copies do not appear in my YYYYMM folder. Going back to LR though, they will appear there with a /Copy 1 extension. RIghtclicking the VC, then "Show in Explorer" will highlight the original in the folder, the VC still not being there. Part of the frustration is that I can not remember this happening before (or maybe it has), so I'm wondering if I by accident have changed any settings.
Running LR 4.1 on Windows 7 64-bit.
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Jan 11, 2012
I imported a large group of images from last October and 14 of them had virtual copies created from them, mainly the final copies of images I was using. When imported into a new catalog I created in Lightroom 4 beta, only the raw files came over, not the virtual copies. I do notice that they have all been updated to the 2012 process and I did not tell it to do that. I need to remove and reimport them? This could be a big problem for me as I really like to use Virtual Copies.
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Oct 1, 2013
I'd like to give various virtual copies different filename (or add an appendage to the name) to describe their use. But changing one virtual copy changes all from the same original image. Is there any way to rename them individually?
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Mar 9, 2012
My cameras have, over the years, misidentified a few lenses in EXIF. Most notably Sigma lenses, but naturally also older optics without built-in electronics.
I use Exiftool to rectify this, and then re-import metadata from file within LR. It works like a breeze both DNG, TIFF and JPG, but for the life of me I can't get those changes effected in existing Virtual Copies.
System details:
LR version: 3.6
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x64
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Jul 13, 2012
I'm new to Lightroom 4.1 and have been setting everything up... I'm having trouble with figuring out an efficient, clear naming system to distnguish Virtual Copies and Copies Edited in Photoshop. I tried using the "File Template Editor in the external Editing window... system and the way to enter it as a Preset in the File Template Editor.
My Image File Naming is as follows: KOBRIEN_YY_00001.dng
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Mar 23, 2014
I accidentally resume my photo editing from the "folder" location instead of the "collection" location. So now when I go back to my collection, none of the virtual copies and PSD files created are there. The physical folder location has more files than the collection because of the extra PSD files.
I even tried to "Import" from the same folder location to see if LR would pickup the new virtual copies and PSD files. But the crazy thing is LR does not register any "new photos".
how to get the additional virtual copies and PSD files to register in my collection?
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Jan 26, 2012
A small set of 36 images in a catalog of 12500 are behaving strangely and virtual copies do not appear to be linking to masters correctly.
Difficult to remember exactly the steps taken but including
- adding initial selection of 100+ masters to Quick Collection
- adjusting selection using colour flagging, star rating, and rejected photo marking
- creating virtual copies of 35 images 4 star picks
- adding virtuals to other manual collection
- apparent duplicate virtuals appearing when I don't THINK I asked for new virtuals in collection but must have done
- flagging duplicate virtual copies as rejected
- editing 1 image in photoshop twice
- various other editing post process
Anyway I now see in the Library panel that 35 master photos, the 2 photoshop files, and 1 of the vitrual copies are indicated as being 1 of 38, 2 of 38, etc. The virtual copies of all but 1, which was added at a later stage, do not indicate being 1 of 2 although the file name is _MG_9999/Copy 1 or Copy 2 varying from image to image. The images are sequencing the 38 "linked" photos first, then the virtuals and that 1 late master when the sort sequence is Capture Time or File Name.
Every thing is there but the reported linkage is obviously wrong and this worries me and I'd like to correct it if I can. The catalog is backed up every time Lightroom closes but as I have been opening and closing several times a day and did not recognise when this corruption happened I don't really want to be loading up a succession of backups and losing post process changes or causing other damage. I have just realised that I do NOT have Automatically write to XMP checked in catalog settings although I was meant to have.
I did export the folder of 1413 that the masters were selected from to another catalog and resynched. Didn't expect much and didn't get anything.
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Jun 6, 2013
I have created virtual copies of an image in Lightroom 4 and I am wondering what will happen to these if I delete the folder containing the master image and its virual copies from the LR4 catalog? Will the virtual copies be automatically deleted? If so, is this reversible in any way? Will i recover these virual copies if I add the folder back into LR's catalog later on?
Also will Adobe Bridge be able to read these virtual copies in both before and even after the folder has been removed from LR4? Or is the 'virtual copy' functionality specific to LR and that the only way to preserve it is to keep the original image within LR and never delete it?
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Feb 8, 2013
I took a promo portrait of a book author that needs to be in color and b&w depending on where it will be used (b&w on the book sleave, color on a flyer, etc). I have a vitual copy for the b&w image which has different contrast settings, otherwise they are identical. Normally I only have one photo to deal with if I need to use Photoshop, and it's aways my last step. This is a little different in that if I don't want to adjust the contrast on the edit, I will have to eyeball the same brush strokes both copies, which will never exactly match. Is there any way to do an identical Photoshop "Liquify" edit on both?
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Oct 11, 2013
Scanning old photographs, with multiple photos in each scanned image. I've created a virtual copy for each individual photograph and then crop appropriately. However, photographs have different dates and I want to be able to sort them chronolgically. Ideally I'd set the Capture Time on each virtual copy and use that as the Sort order, but LR doesn't separate images co-joined in a Virtual set, so to speak. It seems like it looks at the Capture Time of the Master copy of a virtual set.
The only way I can see how to do this is to export, re-import into a different catalogue, and then apply Capture Time metadata. This is quite a cumbersome workaround. I'd like to do this all in the same catalogue...also exporting / importing re-compresses the image and would like to avoid that.
how to sort on date with virtual copies?
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Mar 7, 2013
My metadata for the catalouge has become split across two copies of the photographs on different hard drives. Is there a way of recombing the two so that lightroom only uses the photographs at one location? It is difficult to work out which copy of the photo on which disk has the metadata asigned to it.
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Jun 17, 2012
If I select Edit Content on a Smart Object layer, and then select Duplicate Layer, will that put two copies of the original image in the file?
I used the Place command to bring high resolution images into a canvas of a much lower resolution. I've already spent a lot of time scaling and positioning the images on the canvas. But it turns out, I would now like to do certain editing on the original pixels of the images because of their greater resolution. Of course, that defeats the purpose of Smart Objects for non-destructive editing.
But there's no reason I can't keep two copies of an original image in a file, and destructively edit only one copy, right?
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Apr 5, 2012
In LR 4, I have created a virtual copy for the purpose of cropping, but when I crop it in Develop, the original image is getting cropped as well. Have I misunderstood something?
Mac OS X 10.6.8
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May 15, 2013
When soft proofing, I split the image horizontally and then create proof image when asked after making first alteration.However, in both LR4.4 and 5Beta, both the original and virtual (i.e., proofing image) change.
Have l Brightness value of 55 in original. Proofed image is duller. Increase brightness in proof by 10 to match original. (Figures are just for explanation) Now when I compare images again, original image brightness has increased by 10 also. This can be seen, of course, on the Develop panel.
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