AutoCAD Inventor :: 2012 - IDW Shows Frame Members Incorrectly
Jul 28, 2012
With all the service packs and updates installed 2012 still fails to sometimes recognize frame members properly. Not only is the frame mitre being ignored, the frame was never as long as the idw is showing. It was only as long as the edge. I have spent hours deleting and re-created the frame, views and even completely re-created the drawing but why it's doing this. 2010, 2011 & 2012 have all had frame generator bugs.
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Jul 26, 2012
I come across this problem from time to time and generally either just ignore it, if the detail is destined for in house manufacture, or alter it in autocad if it's destined for exterior suppliers.
Our guard frames are manufactured from extruded aluminum section (made by a company called palletti) I have when needed created a new frame generator frame member for each new x-section that we wish to use. I then draw a 2d sketch for the base frame skeleton and then a 3d sketch for all the frame work above. This I then use in an assembly to create the framework. This framework assembly then goes into a second assembly where the framework is then adorned with all the accoutrements that make up a guard frame that we can then order as an assembled frame, panels feet, hinges et al.
When placing the views for the detailing of the second assembly sometimes the view will show the wrong length for one or some of the frame members.
;note how the left and right views are different and how some of the frame members are elongated on the lh view.
I'm guessing its because of the home grown frame members but all seems to work well other wise and this only happens infrequently.
HP z210 16Gb ATI FirePro5800
Autodesk Produst design Suite 2012
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Jan 23, 2012
I'm trying to generate frame members around a combination of 2D & 3D sketches, the preview is fine however when I click apply and OK it magically vanishes
Everything is set up fine in the 'Insert Frame' dialogue box and the previews look spot on.
Autodesk Inventor Professional 2013 SP2 64-Bit Edition
Windows 7 HP Z400, Intel Xeon W3550 3.07GHz
12.0GB RAM, ATI FirePro V4800 (FireGL)
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Oct 5, 2011
Can i create a custom size frame member and publish this custom size metal frame member for use with the Frame Generator?
Also is it possible to publish the frame member with a particular color?
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Aug 6, 2013
I've created a frame out of tubular steel using frame generator. When specifying sketch lines for the members, i indadvertently selected two adjacent, co linear members, instead of going from point to point.
i.e. frame members are A to B and B to C - what I am after is a frame member from A to C.
I want to merge the two, to have a continuous piece of steel, however i'm afraid that deleting them both and replacing will delete mates which i have in place to each of their faces.
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Jun 3, 2013
I've made a number of frame generated assemblies with standard ISO 30X30X3 L-beams. Now they wanna change it to another dimension still standard just 40X40X4 instead.
I'm pretty new to this but shouldn't I be able to do this for an assemble in one go with frame generator?
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Nov 29, 2012
I commonly need to select frame generator members to change visibility, etc. but since they are all contained in a single frame I need to do this in the browser. This can be difficult because I need to zoom in on the screen while having the section of the browser visible on screen at the same time. Is there a way that I can individually select each member in the assembly without using the browser?
Inventor 2013
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
HP EliteBook 8470w
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM CPU @ 2.30GHz
Memory: 16 GB
AMD FirePro M2000
3D Connexion SpacePilot
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Feb 28, 2012
The following is the problem: I have an assy with multiple different frames. If I make a parst list in the IDW all the frame members are shown seperatey, I just want to show only the frames in de parts list. I tried grouping, but when two assy's are the same that doesn't work any more.
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Sep 8, 2011
I have made a simple rectangular frame made of structural angles. I need the 4 corners to be mitered and to be able to change the dimensions of the frame, so I used frame generator.
I need a pattern of small clips welded to the inside face the frame. I did this by mating the back face of the clips to the inside face of the angles. This worked fine for resizing the frame itself, but when I changed the members to a different size, I lost the constrants holding the clips in place.
Is there a better way to attach the clips so that they will stay intact when switching frame members?
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Aug 8, 2012
I am attempting to make a frame that includes a couple bent members.
This is a side view of my frame. I am trying to make it so that the outer members are simply one piece of angle iron that is notched and bent at the angles. I have not been able to figure out how to do this and as it stands right now, that piece of the frame is made up of 5 seperate lengths of angle iron. Is there any way to get it as one piece in the frame generator or any other way for that matter?
Autodesk Inventor Professional 2011
Windows 7 for Mac
80GB HDD Partition
Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.66 GHz
2.75 GB Usable RAM
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Jan 21, 2013
I have a feeling this goes way back to the first release of INV we had (release 14?). Basically the merged FG member length seems to be calculated using the member centre line instead of real lengths. See the attached Pack-N-Go.
The view on the left is a Merged FG member. The view in the middle is individual FG members based on a line of symmetry in the same sketch. Both are placed using the mid point option in the FG dialogue. The views on the right are the 3 separate members used for the middle view.
The Merged length shows 722 mm whereas adding the 3 member lengths (RH view) equals 740 mm. 18 mm short, or 2 sets of 9 mm (shown in the middle view) which represents the end cuts to the middle member in the RH view.
Windows 7 x64 -64 GB Ram, Intel Xeon E5-1620 @ 3.6 GHz
ATI FirePro V7800 2 GB, 180 GB SSD & 1 TB HDD, Inv R2013 PDS Premium SP2 Update 3 (Build 200), Vault 2013 Workgroup Update 2 (Build 17.2.9.0)
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Dec 18, 2012
Just installed acr7.3 and cs6. I have previously saved jpgs but wanted to play with POSSIBLE settings in the new ACR. Ok so I make some changes and only say DONE.. I do not open and resave. Going back to Bridge.. the preview now shows me the 'new' acr tweaked version and that jpg will NOT open in CS6 again without going through bridge to apply the tweaks I made.
Problem is, the jpg itself is still saved the OLD way and I want that version back. How do I get the bridge to show the saved jpg that I have, once I play with it in acr??
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Aug 15, 2012
When viewing images or documents on the Cintiq they display the same colors as on my main monitor. But when I draw something in Photoshop the colors are more saturated. This is especially noticeable when I undock the working space and drag it on my main monitor.
Testing with a rainbow gradient I can see that relative to my main monitor the purple gets darker and the blue gets stronger; almost turning into a solid bar rather than a gradient. The green also gets slightly lighter.
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Aug 30, 2012
We've just started using ACA 2012 and have noticed when importing files created in ACA 2009 that structural members do not display properly. We use the structural column or beam to represent a rainwater or soil pipe and are expecting to see a cut through at the cut plane and nothing else however we are getting a couple of lines that represent the crank in the pipe and I cannot turn them off. I'm sure that a setting has been introduced somewhere however after two weeks of looking I am still in the dark.
I've attached a file created in ACA 2009 that displays the problem in ACA 2012
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Jul 20, 2012
It was working fine. Then I just did a simple command (pattern a part) and the entire workspace blinked out. The first time it happened I hit UNDO and it was back. So I got out of the drawing and got back in and tried the pattern again. Same issue but this time when I hit UNDO it would not come back. I closed the file without saving and when I went back in the file the workspace is still nothing but white screen. In the browser everything is still visible except for those that I had already changed to invisible. I tried making an invisible to visible and nothing happened. I got out and tried opening the "old version" which should've been before any of this happened and it is also blank. I can go to an ipt or iam in the browser and hit open and it will open in another screen just fine. I just can't see my main assembly. I have Inventor 2012. It shows no errors or messages. I have even rebooted.
I looked thru the forum and found a past issue back in 2005 identical. I tried doing Find in Window on an item in the browser but for some reason that option is not even in the list when I right click.
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Feb 9, 2012
I did a :
pdfattach
pdfclip
both the frames
pdfframe 2
Displays but does not plot the PDF underlay frame.
frame 2
Displays but does not plot the frame.and this last one is the override for all frames but...on the printout a few thin lines of the clip (not all) but noting in the preview
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Jul 12, 2013
I had to factory restore my computer and reinstalled CS6 and now when I use Photoshop to import videos only half the frame of the video shows up. The top half is completely missing.
I tried uninstalling PS and reinstalling it again but I'm still having this error. It's always worked before, now I'm not sure what to do.
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Nov 4, 2011
I'm having an issue with imates not showing up on members of an ipart. If I open the factory file the imates are there, but if I open the member file the imates are not there. This is causing an imate error in my assembly because when I need to switch members out (at the assembly level) the imates are not holding because they're not there!?!
I've even tried "Dirtying" the file by creating a plane and then deleting it, doing a save, then a generate files. This doesn't work either. Why won't the imates show up correctly on the members that they're supposed to show up on?
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Aug 5, 2013
We are facing a strange behaviour, since we switched from network folders to Vault 2011 Professional.
If we create a new revision of an iPart factory and make changes to that factory, members that are placed in assemblies already reflect the changes, although they have not been revisioned and re-generated. It seems like the member is already fetching the latests revision of the factory from Vault by default.
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Nov 18, 2013
I made a table in the file and also split the part into 2 solids.
In the drawing, when i choose the first table mamber it shows both. when i choose to show the active member it shows the first member only (as i want).It didn't happen before i split the part.
My zip program doesn't know to include only the subfolder with the generated table files, only the whole path. i hope you will manage to generate the files, if not-i will add them with the whole path
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Apr 1, 2013
I’m trying to make an iLogic rule that creates a new row in the iPart table (new member). Is it possible?
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Jul 23, 2012
(in Inventor) sometimes I am beset with a problem that I want to edit my sketch but sketch members like line(s),circle(s) are moving to dimensions which I don't want. The sketch is moving. How can I overcome this problem,
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May 7, 2012
We use Inventor 2012 and will most likely upgrade to 2013 between Christmas and New Year's, when our company traditionally shuts down for a week. I recently had occasion to edit an iPart for a hex head machine screw, originally modeled some years ago by someone who's no longer with the company, to add some sizes. As you'll see, the member names are Hex Head Machine Screws-001.ipt, Hex Head Machine Screws-002.ipt, etc. Why does the table go from Hex Head Machine Screws-002 to Hex Head Machine Screws-290, you ask? I'll get to that in a minute.
This iPart was modeled several Inventor versions ago, when the operator had no control over the iPart factory member names. When Inventor did start offering this control, I jumped right on it. In any iParts I modeled from there on out, I used the capabilities of MS-Excel to create abbreviated part descriptions for the iPart factory member names.
Last week I needed to go into this part and add some sizes. If I added the new sizes in sequence by thread size and screw length, they were going to slot in between the existing Hex Head Machine Screws-002 and Hex Head Machine Screws-003. The next unused number was 290, so I made the new factory members Hex Head Machine Screws-290 thru -296, as per the attached screen grab. Naturally the suffixes on the factory member names are out of sequence, and it isn’t very elegant.
As I see it, the other alternatives would have been:
1) Put the new sizes at the end of the list (worse, IMO).
2) Put the new sizes in sequence and renumber the factory members so they were sequential down the line. If I’d done this, then every factory member (say, Hex Head Machine Screws-011) after the newly added ones would have stood for a different size HHMS than it did before, which would have been really bad.
3) Rework the table so the existing names with numerical suffixes went away and were replaced by mnemonic names, as on my more recently modeled iParts. This would have resulted in assemblies looking for factory members under names that no longer existed, but it would have been possible to substitute the screws under their new names. I should mention that we are using the Vault, which makes matters easier.
I would have liked to take approach (3), but I was under some time pressure to finish an assembly using these fasteners.
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Aug 7, 2013
I have facing issue to link the ipart members in to the new part.
for example, i have one machining part that machining part showing make from number. so, i created make from first. it has 10 instance.using iPART i created 10 members.after that i need to be do the machining.machining drawing also having 10 members. How i call the each make from members in to the machining model.
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Jun 5, 2013
When I enable the structured bom in an iAssembly that contains an iPart it is attempting to generate all members before it will enable the bom. This doesn't work as the iAssembly and iPart have 1800 variations each. Our servers cannot handle taking up that amount of space. I did the exact same procedure for a different part and the bom did not populate in this manner. The only difference is that the iProperties comment changes based on which part is selected.
Also, description is set using =<comments>
Stock number is set using =<part number>
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Dec 23, 2011
why members change position once mirror has been done in Assembly mode.
1..... i complete a sketch and save it.
2....Then i open up a new assebly while in the same project and save that also.
3...I place the sketch in the assembly and then go straight to Design tab and select insert frame a PFC member.
4 Also the sketch is fully constrained before going into assembly.
5..Now all mitering has been done.
6 Problem is when you Mirror the PFC in the assembly after picking a face or plane they change....................?
7 They mirror but swap ends and the miters are opp hand.
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Oct 11, 2012
Inventor is displaying the "male symbol" instead of a carriage return. It only does this once in a while, maybe once in 50 dimension edits, and if I edit the dimension again, backspace out the return and replace it then it will display correctly.
I'm using a Quadro 600 with an AutoDesk certified driver. Memory isn't pegged, only using half of my installed 8GB. Bug?
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Jun 22, 2013
I have many I-parts that have many members. All these members differ in size, sheet metal style and material.
That's a nice case for an I-part right? We can manage the members in a table, and we can create flat patterns & drawings that go with these members, so when we get an order for a machine, we don't have to touch any of these components.
The things is, that I want to show the length & width of the flat pattern, the sheet metal style, and the K-factor of the I-parts members in the parts lists of the assemblies they sit in.
I have 4 custom properties for this. Flat_Pattern_Length; Flat_Pattern_Width; Sheet_Metal_Style; Sheet_Metal_k_Factor
These properties show up on the parts lists. I use Inventor 2012 (with Solidworks Enterprise PDM)
I have tried to make a rule in the factory that fills these properties. I fire the rule on "save document". My train of thought: Every time Inventor saves a member, it applies the factory rule, and fills the member properties.
Results are extremely unstable. I have seen all members generated with correct properties, I have also seen that literally nothing happens on the members. There are some brute force workarounds (edit member scope, run rule) but this is not a sustainable solution.
I cannot imagine it would be so hard to get the sheet metal information available as properties for these files! The use of I-parts is a fixed constraint, and the use of those property names is an almost fixed constraint.
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Jul 7, 2013
Inventor does not think an update is required for iAssembly members after changes to attributes on a client feature are saved. In our workflow we avoid rebuild all because it causes subassemblies to change, so we force an update by changing a parameter. Through the API is there a good way to indicate that our change was significant enough for members to need updating?
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Dec 19, 2013
I have an assembly with two similar items in it and have written code to replace the component based on a given selection. If I try to change item one, nothing happens. If I change items two, it changes both item two as well as item one. In the attached screenshot item one should have a full cover panel and item two should be open; however, they are both the same. I have stabilized the browser by changing the names to "Leg One:1" and Leg Two:1) and the components that are being replaced are standard assemblies to be replaces with other standard assemblies.
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Nov 6, 2012
I have an iassembly which contains around 500 different members. There aren't any major differences between the members other than parts being Included/Excluded and parts being replaced by similar parts (this can all be done in the table as the parts are all created as one ipart family).
I need an assembly drawing for every member. As the drawings will be very similar, it is possible to just create one drawings then use 'Save as' and 'replace model reference' to create the whole lot. As this process would be very tedious and time consuming, I want to create a ilogic program or a VB macro to automate this process.
Basically i need a program that will...
FOR every line in the table (say 1 to 500)...
look at the currently active drawing...
replace model reference (for 2 views and a parts list) with the appropriate member (whos file name will match it's Part Number)...
save as with a file name that matches the current rows Part Number...
END when all of the members are complete.
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