AutoCAD Inventor :: IPart Members Are Missing IMates
Nov 4, 2011
I'm having an issue with imates not showing up on members of an ipart. If I open the factory file the imates are there, but if I open the member file the imates are not there. This is causing an imate error in my assembly because when I need to switch members out (at the assembly level) the imates are not holding because they're not there!?!
I've even tried "Dirtying" the file by creating a plane and then deleting it, doing a save, then a generate files. This doesn't work either. Why won't the imates show up correctly on the members that they're supposed to show up on?
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Aug 5, 2013
We are facing a strange behaviour, since we switched from network folders to Vault 2011 Professional.
If we create a new revision of an iPart factory and make changes to that factory, members that are placed in assemblies already reflect the changes, although they have not been revisioned and re-generated. It seems like the member is already fetching the latests revision of the factory from Vault by default.
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Apr 1, 2013
I’m trying to make an iLogic rule that creates a new row in the iPart table (new member). Is it possible?
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May 7, 2012
We use Inventor 2012 and will most likely upgrade to 2013 between Christmas and New Year's, when our company traditionally shuts down for a week. I recently had occasion to edit an iPart for a hex head machine screw, originally modeled some years ago by someone who's no longer with the company, to add some sizes. As you'll see, the member names are Hex Head Machine Screws-001.ipt, Hex Head Machine Screws-002.ipt, etc. Why does the table go from Hex Head Machine Screws-002 to Hex Head Machine Screws-290, you ask? I'll get to that in a minute.
This iPart was modeled several Inventor versions ago, when the operator had no control over the iPart factory member names. When Inventor did start offering this control, I jumped right on it. In any iParts I modeled from there on out, I used the capabilities of MS-Excel to create abbreviated part descriptions for the iPart factory member names.
Last week I needed to go into this part and add some sizes. If I added the new sizes in sequence by thread size and screw length, they were going to slot in between the existing Hex Head Machine Screws-002 and Hex Head Machine Screws-003. The next unused number was 290, so I made the new factory members Hex Head Machine Screws-290 thru -296, as per the attached screen grab. Naturally the suffixes on the factory member names are out of sequence, and it isn’t very elegant.
As I see it, the other alternatives would have been:
1) Put the new sizes at the end of the list (worse, IMO).
2) Put the new sizes in sequence and renumber the factory members so they were sequential down the line. If I’d done this, then every factory member (say, Hex Head Machine Screws-011) after the newly added ones would have stood for a different size HHMS than it did before, which would have been really bad.
3) Rework the table so the existing names with numerical suffixes went away and were replaced by mnemonic names, as on my more recently modeled iParts. This would have resulted in assemblies looking for factory members under names that no longer existed, but it would have been possible to substitute the screws under their new names. I should mention that we are using the Vault, which makes matters easier.
I would have liked to take approach (3), but I was under some time pressure to finish an assembly using these fasteners.
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Aug 7, 2013
I have facing issue to link the ipart members in to the new part.
for example, i have one machining part that machining part showing make from number. so, i created make from first. it has 10 instance.using iPART i created 10 members.after that i need to be do the machining.machining drawing also having 10 members. How i call the each make from members in to the machining model.
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Jun 5, 2013
When I enable the structured bom in an iAssembly that contains an iPart it is attempting to generate all members before it will enable the bom. This doesn't work as the iAssembly and iPart have 1800 variations each. Our servers cannot handle taking up that amount of space. I did the exact same procedure for a different part and the bom did not populate in this manner. The only difference is that the iProperties comment changes based on which part is selected.
Also, description is set using =<comments>
Stock number is set using =<part number>
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Jun 22, 2013
I have many I-parts that have many members. All these members differ in size, sheet metal style and material.
That's a nice case for an I-part right? We can manage the members in a table, and we can create flat patterns & drawings that go with these members, so when we get an order for a machine, we don't have to touch any of these components.
The things is, that I want to show the length & width of the flat pattern, the sheet metal style, and the K-factor of the I-parts members in the parts lists of the assemblies they sit in.
I have 4 custom properties for this. Flat_Pattern_Length; Flat_Pattern_Width; Sheet_Metal_Style; Sheet_Metal_k_Factor
These properties show up on the parts lists. I use Inventor 2012 (with Solidworks Enterprise PDM)
I have tried to make a rule in the factory that fills these properties. I fire the rule on "save document". My train of thought: Every time Inventor saves a member, it applies the factory rule, and fills the member properties.
Results are extremely unstable. I have seen all members generated with correct properties, I have also seen that literally nothing happens on the members. There are some brute force workarounds (edit member scope, run rule) but this is not a sustainable solution.
I cannot imagine it would be so hard to get the sheet metal information available as properties for these files! The use of I-parts is a fixed constraint, and the use of those property names is an almost fixed constraint.
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Jul 7, 2013
Inventor does not think an update is required for iAssembly members after changes to attributes on a client feature are saved. In our workflow we avoid rebuild all because it causes subassemblies to change, so we force an update by changing a parameter. Through the API is there a good way to indicate that our change was significant enough for members to need updating?
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Mar 7, 2013
For some reason, I am unable to use the iMate feature of Autodesk Inventor. I am unable to select iMates on existing parts to assemble them with other parts. I have followed all the instructions for using iMate features, but I always run into trouble because, even though I did indeed enable iMate glyph visibility, and I did do all the other stuff they said, when I click on the iMate glyph, nothing happens. It is as if they weren't even there at all. Selecting the iMates from the project browser on the left doesn't work either; while I am able to select the features, I am unable to move the parts or select any other iMates, except as a group selection, which doesn't let me do anything, either.
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Dec 19, 2013
We have a frequently used bearing assembly for dampers, mounted to plate consisting of a shaft hole w/ 2 countersunk holes for flat head cap screws to mount the bearing.
I have a stamp for the hole array into the plate, and can individually i Mate each FHCS into said holes after placing in the assembly onto the plate.
Is there a way to set up the iMates so that the bearing assembly would plop in automatically into the two separate countersunk holes? Not sure if you would have to create iMates in the stamp...or if thats even possible.
Sometimes the damper may have 2 bearing assemblies @ opposite side of the frame for one blade shaft, sometimes we may have as many as 4-5 blade shafts (10 bearing assy's). So Im imagining dragging the thing to each iMated array and dropping it in.
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Jun 29, 2010
Is there an option to add an i mate within a sketch block. I am working on a belt conveyor for handling coal and have created a master sketch to drive all components for along the conveyor.
As the ground modules are all the same module, i have a sketch block. Problem is i cannot add an i mate to the idlers within the sketch block. It means i can only create to i mates individually after the sketch block is copied or patterned.
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Sep 7, 2012
I'm working in Inventor 2012 and new to VBA and I'm gonna kick myself if there's a really easy answer to this. I've got 120+ WorkPoints on corresponding WorkAxes on an irregular pattern both horizontally and vertically. I'd like to Select all the WorkPoints and add a mate Imate then all the work axis and add an insert imate to ease placement of a part at each location within an assembly (this scenario crops up quite often).
I've been trying to use AddMateiMateDefinition but it doesn't seem to let me pass a WorkPoint to it, is it possible?
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May 27, 2010
Is there a way to make a part being placed into an assembly instantly adapt using imates?
For instance:New assembly... Place box 1...Place box 2, but have it automatically placed inside of box 1 and sized to fit inside with 1" clearance all around.
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Sep 14, 2012
I currently have to palce a lot of parts from the content center into an assembly and miss essential imates for easy placement. I am using IV2010 at the moment and have no clue where to start.
I have tried copying a new instance of a part into a new library. I then placed this component in the assembly hoping I could add iMates to it in the assembly environment. But when I want to save I get the message that the part has not been checked out for me to use even though I have read/write access to the library.
So a couple of questions here:
As files in the CC are saved in a datapase and not as part files, can imates be included in that database? Do I really need to recreate the part from scratch, and then publish it to the library?
How would it be possible to open up a CC file like in the part edit mode in an assembly?
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Apr 6, 2004
How does IV recognize iMate naming. I am trying to use specific named iMates on parts that when placed in the assembly that they can be placed in the correct postions. What I have run into is that no matter how I name the iMates I can place a part with one iMate name on a non-matching named iMate. Ex.- 1601-1 will mate with 2201-1 using the alt-Drag method. (These two iMates are both insert types.) This happens sometimes using the "Use iMate" checkbox on the place component dialog. I thought that the naming and type of iMate dictated what mates with what not just type.
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Jun 17, 2013
Is there a secret to having the Design View Reps stay on the right settings when using Occurrences.AddUsingIMates? I've got a master top level assembly that I'm bringing other iLogic modules into by using an iLogic form in the master top level assembly. The form calls a rule that makes a copy of the module assembly in the same file location as the master TLA. It then adds the module TLA to the master TLA using iMates, and calls an external rule to copy all the sub files from the module into that file location and replace them in the module TLA. The user then calls the module's configuration form using a button on the master TLA's form.
I've been using a line of code to set the DVR back to default and associative for the module, but now that has stopped working and it immediately goes back to Master after running the rule, or even if I try and set it by hand. But if I bring the same module in and place it using the Place button, it comes in correctly. I've even added a NameValueMap for the DVR optional argument on AddUsingiMates and that hasn't work.
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Dec 21, 2011
Create code that will allow me to place a part in an assembly at all matching iMate locations. I would also like to call this function from iLogic using RunMacro if possible.
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Mar 8, 2013
know if I can drive the length of a shaft based on two iMates being satisfied? We'll take a driveshaft for example. If, using iMates, I make it connect to the transmission yoke and to the axle yoke, can the Length parameter automatically be changed so it fits?
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Jan 18, 2012
Recently we added i Mates to some library-parts. Also replaced some Content Center models by models with iMates. When we place these Content Center parts, the only way to activate the iMates is to right click
When creating a new iPart with iMates and publish this to Content Center everything is working well. Our server and workstations are up-to-date, so I think this is a "bug". Maybe Autodesk fixes in the next update.
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Nov 15, 2013
I want to exclude imates from two parts and 1 whole part at the same time.
This is my situation:
PartA with 2 sets of imates(for constrains on 3 axis for no movement) on the right side. Set A and set B.
PartB with 2 sets of imates, one on the left side set A and one on the right side, set C.
PartC with 2 sets of imates on the left side. Set B and set C.
i want, in a iPart, part A connected with part C connection with iMate set B. And in the same ipart i want Part A, B and C connected respectively with iMate sets A,C
So in the first situation i want iMates A and C and part B to be suppressed and in the second i want iMate set B to be suppressed.
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Feb 27, 2013
I've got an existing assembly in which I need to change the matchlist for the imates. I have been able to change the imate names but not the match list.
The only reference I have found creates the iMate in a part. I need to edit an existing iMate in the assembly document for the matchlist.
I have some code below, but it is not complete.
Set MyPart = ThisApplication.Documents.Open(strJobLocalDirectory & strLFVAssyName)
Set oAssyComp = ThisApplication.ActiveDocument.ComponentDefinition
'Dim oDoc As Inventor.AssemblyDocument
Set oDoc = ThisApplication.ActiveDocument
Dim oInsertiMate As InsertiMateDefinition
[code]....
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Feb 15, 2013
I was just wondering how to place a component into an assembly using ilogic? If this is possible, is there also an option to choose if iMates will be generated?
I would ideally like to place a list of components into an assembly, the list with probably exist in excel, then have iMates set to 'Automatically generate iMates on place' so that my assembly assembles automatically.
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Autodesk Inventor Professional 2011
Windows 7 Enterprise, 64-bit
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Jan 10, 2012
I am trying to use iMates names to place a hydraulic adapter into an assembly. The adapter has two male ends - one end with an insert iMate matching a cylinder iMate and one end with an insert iMate matching the hose fitting. When placing the adapter, the iMate names are ignored and it is mated backwards using inferred iMates.
Also, I get an error because it wants to mate new instances of the part to the unconsumed iMate of the part that was just placed (which I guess would place parts into infinity). I have changed around the iMate names and matching names every way I can think of, but the names still are ignored, and it uses other deferred iMates.
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Jan 23, 2012
I'm trying to generate frame members around a combination of 2D & 3D sketches, the preview is fine however when I click apply and OK it magically vanishes
Everything is set up fine in the 'Insert Frame' dialogue box and the previews look spot on.
Autodesk Inventor Professional 2013 SP2 64-Bit Edition
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12.0GB RAM, ATI FirePro V4800 (FireGL)
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Oct 5, 2011
Can i create a custom size frame member and publish this custom size metal frame member for use with the Frame Generator?
Also is it possible to publish the frame member with a particular color?
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Aug 6, 2013
I've created a frame out of tubular steel using frame generator. When specifying sketch lines for the members, i indadvertently selected two adjacent, co linear members, instead of going from point to point.
i.e. frame members are A to B and B to C - what I am after is a frame member from A to C.
I want to merge the two, to have a continuous piece of steel, however i'm afraid that deleting them both and replacing will delete mates which i have in place to each of their faces.
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Nov 18, 2013
I made a table in the file and also split the part into 2 solids.
In the drawing, when i choose the first table mamber it shows both. when i choose to show the active member it shows the first member only (as i want).It didn't happen before i split the part.
My zip program doesn't know to include only the subfolder with the generated table files, only the whole path. i hope you will manage to generate the files, if not-i will add them with the whole path
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Jun 3, 2013
I've made a number of frame generated assemblies with standard ISO 30X30X3 L-beams. Now they wanna change it to another dimension still standard just 40X40X4 instead.
I'm pretty new to this but shouldn't I be able to do this for an assemble in one go with frame generator?
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Jul 28, 2012
With all the service packs and updates installed 2012 still fails to sometimes recognize frame members properly. Not only is the frame mitre being ignored, the frame was never as long as the idw is showing. It was only as long as the edge. I have spent hours deleting and re-created the frame, views and even completely re-created the drawing but why it's doing this. 2010, 2011 & 2012 have all had frame generator bugs.
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Jul 23, 2012
(in Inventor) sometimes I am beset with a problem that I want to edit my sketch but sketch members like line(s),circle(s) are moving to dimensions which I don't want. The sketch is moving. How can I overcome this problem,
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Nov 29, 2012
I commonly need to select frame generator members to change visibility, etc. but since they are all contained in a single frame I need to do this in the browser. This can be difficult because I need to zoom in on the screen while having the section of the browser visible on screen at the same time. Is there a way that I can individually select each member in the assembly without using the browser?
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