AutoCAD Inventor :: Change Properties For All Frame Members In One
Jun 3, 2013
I've made a number of frame generated assemblies with standard ISO 30X30X3 L-beams. Now they wanna change it to another dimension still standard just 40X40X4 instead.
I'm pretty new to this but shouldn't I be able to do this for an assemble in one go with frame generator?
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Jul 26, 2012
I come across this problem from time to time and generally either just ignore it, if the detail is destined for in house manufacture, or alter it in autocad if it's destined for exterior suppliers.
Our guard frames are manufactured from extruded aluminum section (made by a company called palletti) I have when needed created a new frame generator frame member for each new x-section that we wish to use. I then draw a 2d sketch for the base frame skeleton and then a 3d sketch for all the frame work above. This I then use in an assembly to create the framework. This framework assembly then goes into a second assembly where the framework is then adorned with all the accoutrements that make up a guard frame that we can then order as an assembled frame, panels feet, hinges et al.
When placing the views for the detailing of the second assembly sometimes the view will show the wrong length for one or some of the frame members.
;note how the left and right views are different and how some of the frame members are elongated on the lh view.
I'm guessing its because of the home grown frame members but all seems to work well other wise and this only happens infrequently.
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Jan 23, 2012
I'm trying to generate frame members around a combination of 2D & 3D sketches, the preview is fine however when I click apply and OK it magically vanishes
Everything is set up fine in the 'Insert Frame' dialogue box and the previews look spot on.
Autodesk Inventor Professional 2013 SP2 64-Bit Edition
Windows 7 HP Z400, Intel Xeon W3550 3.07GHz
12.0GB RAM, ATI FirePro V4800 (FireGL)
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Oct 5, 2011
Can i create a custom size frame member and publish this custom size metal frame member for use with the Frame Generator?
Also is it possible to publish the frame member with a particular color?
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Aug 6, 2013
I've created a frame out of tubular steel using frame generator. When specifying sketch lines for the members, i indadvertently selected two adjacent, co linear members, instead of going from point to point.
i.e. frame members are A to B and B to C - what I am after is a frame member from A to C.
I want to merge the two, to have a continuous piece of steel, however i'm afraid that deleting them both and replacing will delete mates which i have in place to each of their faces.
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Jul 28, 2012
With all the service packs and updates installed 2012 still fails to sometimes recognize frame members properly. Not only is the frame mitre being ignored, the frame was never as long as the idw is showing. It was only as long as the edge. I have spent hours deleting and re-created the frame, views and even completely re-created the drawing but why it's doing this. 2010, 2011 & 2012 have all had frame generator bugs.
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Nov 29, 2012
I commonly need to select frame generator members to change visibility, etc. but since they are all contained in a single frame I need to do this in the browser. This can be difficult because I need to zoom in on the screen while having the section of the browser visible on screen at the same time. Is there a way that I can individually select each member in the assembly without using the browser?
Inventor 2013
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
HP EliteBook 8470w
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM CPU @ 2.30GHz
Memory: 16 GB
AMD FirePro M2000
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Feb 28, 2012
The following is the problem: I have an assy with multiple different frames. If I make a parst list in the IDW all the frame members are shown seperatey, I just want to show only the frames in de parts list. I tried grouping, but when two assy's are the same that doesn't work any more.
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Jun 22, 2013
I have many I-parts that have many members. All these members differ in size, sheet metal style and material.
That's a nice case for an I-part right? We can manage the members in a table, and we can create flat patterns & drawings that go with these members, so when we get an order for a machine, we don't have to touch any of these components.
The things is, that I want to show the length & width of the flat pattern, the sheet metal style, and the K-factor of the I-parts members in the parts lists of the assemblies they sit in.
I have 4 custom properties for this. Flat_Pattern_Length; Flat_Pattern_Width; Sheet_Metal_Style; Sheet_Metal_k_Factor
These properties show up on the parts lists. I use Inventor 2012 (with Solidworks Enterprise PDM)
I have tried to make a rule in the factory that fills these properties. I fire the rule on "save document". My train of thought: Every time Inventor saves a member, it applies the factory rule, and fills the member properties.
Results are extremely unstable. I have seen all members generated with correct properties, I have also seen that literally nothing happens on the members. There are some brute force workarounds (edit member scope, run rule) but this is not a sustainable solution.
I cannot imagine it would be so hard to get the sheet metal information available as properties for these files! The use of I-parts is a fixed constraint, and the use of those property names is an almost fixed constraint.
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Sep 8, 2011
I have made a simple rectangular frame made of structural angles. I need the 4 corners to be mitered and to be able to change the dimensions of the frame, so I used frame generator.
I need a pattern of small clips welded to the inside face the frame. I did this by mating the back face of the clips to the inside face of the angles. This worked fine for resizing the frame itself, but when I changed the members to a different size, I lost the constrants holding the clips in place.
Is there a better way to attach the clips so that they will stay intact when switching frame members?
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Aug 8, 2012
I am attempting to make a frame that includes a couple bent members.
This is a side view of my frame. I am trying to make it so that the outer members are simply one piece of angle iron that is notched and bent at the angles. I have not been able to figure out how to do this and as it stands right now, that piece of the frame is made up of 5 seperate lengths of angle iron. Is there any way to get it as one piece in the frame generator or any other way for that matter?
Autodesk Inventor Professional 2011
Windows 7 for Mac
80GB HDD Partition
Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.66 GHz
2.75 GB Usable RAM
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Jan 21, 2013
I have a feeling this goes way back to the first release of INV we had (release 14?). Basically the merged FG member length seems to be calculated using the member centre line instead of real lengths. See the attached Pack-N-Go.
The view on the left is a Merged FG member. The view in the middle is individual FG members based on a line of symmetry in the same sketch. Both are placed using the mid point option in the FG dialogue. The views on the right are the 3 separate members used for the middle view.
The Merged length shows 722 mm whereas adding the 3 member lengths (RH view) equals 740 mm. 18 mm short, or 2 sets of 9 mm (shown in the middle view) which represents the end cuts to the middle member in the RH view.
Windows 7 x64 -64 GB Ram, Intel Xeon E5-1620 @ 3.6 GHz
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Dec 23, 2011
why members change position once mirror has been done in Assembly mode.
1..... i complete a sketch and save it.
2....Then i open up a new assebly while in the same project and save that also.
3...I place the sketch in the assembly and then go straight to Design tab and select insert frame a PFC member.
4 Also the sketch is fully constrained before going into assembly.
5..Now all mitering has been done.
6 Problem is when you Mirror the PFC in the assembly after picking a face or plane they change....................?
7 They mirror but swap ends and the miters are opp hand.
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Jan 23, 2012
I am busy constructing my own Structural Shapes Library in Inventor 1012.During the Authoring and Publishing step I mapped Cross Section Properties (Ixx, Iyy, Torsional Section Modulus, Torsional Rigidity Modulus etc) to set parameters in my iPart table.
I have noticed that once this part is then used in Frame Generator to create a simple beam and then analyzed with the Frame Analysis tool, the analysis tool uses the geometry of the part to calculate these properties.
Is there a way that I can force Inventor to use the properties in the iPart Tables? I am worried that any errors in creating the cross section geometry will be carried into the Cross Section Properties calculated by Inventor.
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Aug 29, 2012
How to select entity filter by sketch name dan properties using VB or VBA.
for example I have 2 shape : Rectangular and Circle with different properties.
Sometimes I want to select rec and make it become construction and circle still in normal line and Sometimes I want to select circle and make it become construction and rectangular still in normal line.
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Mar 13, 2012
I am building frame using frame generator. Well, firstly I build a sketch and then afterwards from that sketch I already make frame itself.
What I want to do iis when I am changing length of some frame memebers in a sketch, I want frame members to be changed as well.
For example:
From here you see that everything is ok. Frame members are according to the sketch.
But when I am changing the sketch, frame stais as it is on the first picture without any changes. Previously it was changing, but then something happened and it doesn't change anymore.
For me it seems that reference skeleton of a frame is not referenced to the sketch of the frame .ipt.
Autodesk Inventor 2014 PRO x64
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Oct 18, 2013
After changing colors at assembly level only ,below is a rule that changes all parts that have material "Plywood" to poplar works great.
However I want a rule that does the same kind of change but on only temporally at assembly level only then we can change back to default colors by removing color override.
It would be good if we can do the following
Search assembly for .ipt files that have material that contains PlywoodChange to color using temporary override of "Clear - Light" Possibility of searching more materials within same rule ie : "Timber" to be black in color"Pvcu"to be white in color
Dim oCurrentDoc As Inventor.Document
Dim oDoc As Inventor.Document Dim oPartDoc As PartDocument
Dim oRefDoc As DocumentsEnumeratorDim oTargetColor As RenderStyleDim oNewColor As RenderStyleoCurrentDoc =
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May 31, 2013
<Subassembly document name>” = iProperties.Value("Custom", "CUSTOMER P.O. NUMBER") iProperties.ValueInDoc("<Subassembly document name>.iam", "Custom", "CUSTOMER P.O. NUMBER")= Ucase(InputBox("CUSTOMER P.O. NUMBER?", "Create Customer P.O.#", iProperties.Value("Custom", "CUSTOMER P.O. NUMBER")))
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Oct 12, 2011
why the script below doesn`t change Physical material properties? It changes the thickness of the part, but not material properties on the BOM...
ShThk = InputListBox("Sheet Thickness", MultiValue.List("ShThk"), ShThk, Title := "Choose Thickness", ListName := "Thickness")
' material thickness from multi-value parameter called ShThk
If ShThk = 0.3125 Then
SheetMetal.SetActiveStyle("5/16"& Chr(34))
Else if ShThk = 0.25 Then
SheetMetal.SetActiveStyle("1/4"& Chr(34))
Else if ShThk = 0.1345 Then
SheetMetal.SetActiveStyle("10ga")
else if ShThk = 0.105 Then
SheetMetal.SetActiveStyle("12ga")
else if ShThk = 0.1793 Then
SheetMetal.SetActiveStyle("7ga")
End If
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Oct 21, 2013
I'm slowly getting there with iLogic, so I'm really just looking for the function / call to change one part from Frame Generator, to another part from Frame Generator.
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Feb 27, 2012
I have several frames built by Frame Generator in project.
Than one frame has been diminished much while design so I use just several frame links just like parts without skeleton.
Those frame links I have renamed since I have several copies and I would like to have unique name. Now when I start the assembly consisting those links Inventor naturally inquires about missing files.
I show to renamed one and everything works ok except when I start the file again it asks again nevertheless file has been saved. Inventor still remember this frame link names as it used to be in browser and does not accept replacement.
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I wish I must not rebuild those parts from scratch again. Therefore I have two questions
Is it possible to save this frame part as normal part (save as does not do it) ?
Is there some other way to get rid of Frame Generator status of some part built by Frame Gen?
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Dec 23, 2011
I'm using ilogic rules to customize an assembly generated by content center of frame generator. I would like replace the parts on my assembly when I change an assembly parameter multivalue.
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Apr 18, 2013
I get this error message when attempting to change the material in the frame generator.
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Apr 23, 2012
Inventor 2012.
change template file for frame-generated components?
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Apr 4, 2012
Can I change the description that appears in the properties from content center files ? I want that appear Pa Allen or something like it, but the description is "Hexagon Socket Button Head Screw - Product grade A" from Content Center.
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Nov 5, 2012
Parts generated with the FG can be changed with the 'Change' option within the Frame Generator menu in the Design -tab on the ribbon.
However, when I change the size of the profile thru this menu all properties will be changed according to the settings of the table in the Content Center, except the Description property.
The Description column in the table is configured with the size of the profile and is mapped to 'project.description'.
I'm using Inventor 2013 SP1.1
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Nov 4, 2011
I'm having an issue with imates not showing up on members of an ipart. If I open the factory file the imates are there, but if I open the member file the imates are not there. This is causing an imate error in my assembly because when I need to switch members out (at the assembly level) the imates are not holding because they're not there!?!
I've even tried "Dirtying" the file by creating a plane and then deleting it, doing a save, then a generate files. This doesn't work either. Why won't the imates show up correctly on the members that they're supposed to show up on?
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Aug 5, 2013
We are facing a strange behaviour, since we switched from network folders to Vault 2011 Professional.
If we create a new revision of an iPart factory and make changes to that factory, members that are placed in assemblies already reflect the changes, although they have not been revisioned and re-generated. It seems like the member is already fetching the latests revision of the factory from Vault by default.
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Nov 18, 2013
I made a table in the file and also split the part into 2 solids.
In the drawing, when i choose the first table mamber it shows both. when i choose to show the active member it shows the first member only (as i want).It didn't happen before i split the part.
My zip program doesn't know to include only the subfolder with the generated table files, only the whole path. i hope you will manage to generate the files, if not-i will add them with the whole path
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Apr 1, 2013
I’m trying to make an iLogic rule that creates a new row in the iPart table (new member). Is it possible?
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Jul 23, 2012
(in Inventor) sometimes I am beset with a problem that I want to edit my sketch but sketch members like line(s),circle(s) are moving to dimensions which I don't want. The sketch is moving. How can I overcome this problem,
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