AutoCAD Inventor :: Merge Members With Frame Generator
Aug 6, 2013
I've created a frame out of tubular steel using frame generator. When specifying sketch lines for the members, i indadvertently selected two adjacent, co linear members, instead of going from point to point.
i.e. frame members are A to B and B to C - what I am after is a frame member from A to C.
I want to merge the two, to have a continuous piece of steel, however i'm afraid that deleting them both and replacing will delete mates which i have in place to each of their faces.
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Nov 29, 2012
I commonly need to select frame generator members to change visibility, etc. but since they are all contained in a single frame I need to do this in the browser. This can be difficult because I need to zoom in on the screen while having the section of the browser visible on screen at the same time. Is there a way that I can individually select each member in the assembly without using the browser?
Inventor 2013
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
HP EliteBook 8470w
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM CPU @ 2.30GHz
Memory: 16 GB
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Sep 8, 2011
I have made a simple rectangular frame made of structural angles. I need the 4 corners to be mitered and to be able to change the dimensions of the frame, so I used frame generator.
I need a pattern of small clips welded to the inside face the frame. I did this by mating the back face of the clips to the inside face of the angles. This worked fine for resizing the frame itself, but when I changed the members to a different size, I lost the constrants holding the clips in place.
Is there a better way to attach the clips so that they will stay intact when switching frame members?
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Jan 21, 2013
I have a feeling this goes way back to the first release of INV we had (release 14?). Basically the merged FG member length seems to be calculated using the member centre line instead of real lengths. See the attached Pack-N-Go.
The view on the left is a Merged FG member. The view in the middle is individual FG members based on a line of symmetry in the same sketch. Both are placed using the mid point option in the FG dialogue. The views on the right are the 3 separate members used for the middle view.
The Merged length shows 722 mm whereas adding the 3 member lengths (RH view) equals 740 mm. 18 mm short, or 2 sets of 9 mm (shown in the middle view) which represents the end cuts to the middle member in the RH view.
Windows 7 x64 -64 GB Ram, Intel Xeon E5-1620 @ 3.6 GHz
ATI FirePro V7800 2 GB, 180 GB SSD & 1 TB HDD, Inv R2013 PDS Premium SP2 Update 3 (Build 200), Vault 2013 Workgroup Update 2 (Build 17.2.9.0)
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Jul 26, 2012
I come across this problem from time to time and generally either just ignore it, if the detail is destined for in house manufacture, or alter it in autocad if it's destined for exterior suppliers.
Our guard frames are manufactured from extruded aluminum section (made by a company called palletti) I have when needed created a new frame generator frame member for each new x-section that we wish to use. I then draw a 2d sketch for the base frame skeleton and then a 3d sketch for all the frame work above. This I then use in an assembly to create the framework. This framework assembly then goes into a second assembly where the framework is then adorned with all the accoutrements that make up a guard frame that we can then order as an assembled frame, panels feet, hinges et al.
When placing the views for the detailing of the second assembly sometimes the view will show the wrong length for one or some of the frame members.
;note how the left and right views are different and how some of the frame members are elongated on the lh view.
I'm guessing its because of the home grown frame members but all seems to work well other wise and this only happens infrequently.
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May 22, 2013
After using Custom Profile for Frame Generator, the Part List will show total length, not individually. How to split these frame members?
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Apr 30, 2013
After using Custom Profile for Frame Generator, the Part List will show total length, not individually. how to split these frame members?
Inventor Professional 2013 SP1.1
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, SP1
HP EliteBook 8460w; 8 GB RAM; i7 - 2.0 GHz; AMD Firepro M3900 -1 GB
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Jan 23, 2012
I'm trying to generate frame members around a combination of 2D & 3D sketches, the preview is fine however when I click apply and OK it magically vanishes
Everything is set up fine in the 'Insert Frame' dialogue box and the previews look spot on.
Autodesk Inventor Professional 2013 SP2 64-Bit Edition
Windows 7 HP Z400, Intel Xeon W3550 3.07GHz
12.0GB RAM, ATI FirePro V4800 (FireGL)
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Oct 5, 2011
Can i create a custom size frame member and publish this custom size metal frame member for use with the Frame Generator?
Also is it possible to publish the frame member with a particular color?
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Jun 3, 2013
I've made a number of frame generated assemblies with standard ISO 30X30X3 L-beams. Now they wanna change it to another dimension still standard just 40X40X4 instead.
I'm pretty new to this but shouldn't I be able to do this for an assemble in one go with frame generator?
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Jul 28, 2012
With all the service packs and updates installed 2012 still fails to sometimes recognize frame members properly. Not only is the frame mitre being ignored, the frame was never as long as the idw is showing. It was only as long as the edge. I have spent hours deleting and re-created the frame, views and even completely re-created the drawing but why it's doing this. 2010, 2011 & 2012 have all had frame generator bugs.
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Feb 28, 2012
The following is the problem: I have an assy with multiple different frames. If I make a parst list in the IDW all the frame members are shown seperatey, I just want to show only the frames in de parts list. I tried grouping, but when two assy's are the same that doesn't work any more.
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Aug 8, 2012
I am attempting to make a frame that includes a couple bent members.
This is a side view of my frame. I am trying to make it so that the outer members are simply one piece of angle iron that is notched and bent at the angles. I have not been able to figure out how to do this and as it stands right now, that piece of the frame is made up of 5 seperate lengths of angle iron. Is there any way to get it as one piece in the frame generator or any other way for that matter?
Autodesk Inventor Professional 2011
Windows 7 for Mac
80GB HDD Partition
Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.66 GHz
2.75 GB Usable RAM
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Jun 24, 2009
While using the frame generator's "Trim - Extend to Face" command on short members, the wrong end of the member is being trimmed. Is there a way to choose which end to trim on short members?
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Oct 12, 2012
How to use frame generator in assembly? I find difficult to assemble a huge assembly.
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Aug 13, 2013
I'm running Inventor 2013 professional and I want to design a steel structure for stress analysis. But I can't find any DIN H-beams (HEB, HEA in accordance to DIN 1025) in the "insert frame member selection".
Isn't it possible to use DIN H-beams in Inventor frame generator? Can I add my own parts to the library for stress analysis?
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Apr 19, 2012
All of a sudden I can't get up my frame generator. I click into my frame > hit "insert frame", which is normally where the dialog box comes up, but I get nothing.
Inventor Professional 2014.
Windows 7 64 bit.
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Feb 13, 2012
I just recently had Inventor 2012 installed on my computer and I went to make a frame generator and an error message popped up and won't let me make the generator. I attached a .jpeg to this that shows what error keeps appearing.
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Aug 6, 2013
Coming from a solidworks background, i frequently use weldments, or Inventor's equivalent - frame generator.
Wondering if there was a solidworks 'end cap' equivalent.
[URL] essentially a weldment driven and generated part which doesn't need much thinking about.
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May 20, 2011
It seems to me that there is a major disconnect between using the Vault and using Frame Generator. When creating a frame using frame generator all the parts are automatically named by frame generator. It gives you a name such ANSI W8x13 00000001 for an I-beam for instance. As you create more components (I-beams in this case) the number on the end of the file name increases so you have 0000002, 00000003 etc. After I'm finished with the assembly I will check it into the vault.
The issue comes up when I go to create a new assembly a few days later using the same I-beam. The naming convention for the I-beam is exactly the same for the new assembly file. It will start over and give me a new ANSI W8x13 00000001 file. Now when I go to check it into the vault I get the "cannot check in due to vaulting restrictions" error because the two files have been named the exact same thing. It seems crazy that Inventor would be set up this way considering how vault works. The only thing I have found is that you can click the browse button and rename the file. This is a serious headache though because I have to come up with a unique name (or pre-fix) for EVERY part of EVERY frame that I generate. And lets just say it's not hard for me to create 100+ new parts a day using frame generator.
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Dec 23, 2011
Aside of beams and so I could use some metal studs. Seems like there are not any.
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Mar 6, 2013
The frame generator gives the wrong cut length (G_L) when using double end treatment "Trim and Extend to Face"
See attached screen shot: The correct length of the diagonal RHS should be 1852 mm after trimming the RH end to btm and rh member. As far as I remember this is an old problem never been fixed. Is a lot of work manually altering the cut length of 20-30 member in the BOM.
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May 9, 2012
I created a frame using 150 x 75 BS4 channel section in 2011/12 (can't remember which) however it was created before the BOM length fix (all lengths stated are not necessarily the lengths of the beams). In order to fix this I need to redraw the frame, which is fair enough, however I am unable to find the BSI standard channel section. In fact, BSI has seemed to vanish from my library completely, I can not even place a component from the BSI library.
I have had a look around the C:/Programdata/autodesk/inventor2011(or 12 or 13)/contenetcentre/libraries and have found parker, gost, DIN etc but no BSI. I have not used the frame generator/place component in 2013 yet so no idea if this was from install or not.
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Oct 30, 2012
My skeleton has lost translation with my frame generator and has offset the sketch. I have tried "Edit with Frame Generator" but the peices seem to stay in place.
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Oct 7, 2012
I have been playing around with Inventor (moving across from Solidworks) and am wondering how I 'detail plates' I am becomeing familiar with the Frame Generator to create all of my members, but it seems quite disconnected in the creation process create a plate.
I currently am creating the 3D sketch (in a part) creating the (base) plate in the same part and then in the assebley I am using the frame Generator (See image) to create the members.
How to correctly include the plates as part of the design process.
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Jun 12, 2012
Is there any way in standard inventor to find what sketch is related to a frame generator member?
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Feb 15, 2012
I`ve modelled a pipe and would like to know if this type of pipe can be added to the content centre so as i can use with the frame generator?
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Oct 6, 2011
How do you have the frame generator "point" to a custom parts directory to create from?
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Autodesk product design
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Mar 14, 2012
Can i use frame generator and do subassembly using one of the member and still be able to stretch the frame?
will the subassembly stretch as well?
inventor 2011
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Sep 8, 2011
Recently the company bought a single license of Inventor to test out and see if it meets our company goals and is efficient to use for what we do. I've been working with the frame generator, which is fairly easy to use and make the initial assembly, but I am having trouble and breaking out individual sections to detail.
I am stuck with using LOD for this platform, provide a general workflow procedure of the best way of creating assemblies and subassemblies.
What I am currently using Inventor is to build a condenser platform. Generally we like to weld as much of it in the shop before it goes to the field for final assembly. The platform consists of beam supports, grating, stairs, and handrail. In this case we would generally take sections of the handrail and weld in the shop, we would also have the stairs with the handrail welded on it as well. I would like to refrain from converting this to weldment.
I have tried promoting and demoting but this loses constraints and references. Also I cannot create a single skeleton of the whole frame at one time because a lot of the frame members depend on the other members structural sizes (flange width, height, etc.).
I've read of people creating multiple subassemblies and grounding them, but I would like to think that their has to be away that I could just build off of the base skeleton and not have to cycle through different assemblies.
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Sep 18, 2013
I'm trying to find out whether I can create custom frame generator profiles in IV2014. Any solutions that I've come across aren't viable (referencing files that don't exist on my machine etc).
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