3ds Max :: 2012 - Mental Ray Slower By 30%
Apr 8, 2011
I just tested some of my scenes from Max 2011 in 2012, and rendering is in average about 30% slower than in 2011.
I am attaching pictures for reference. It is obvious that they are 100% identical, there is no difference quality wise, but a significant difference performance wise. I will add some more result comparisons on more complex scenes to confirm the problem once they finish rendering. I am willing to provide my scenes to Autodesk if interested to solve this issue ASAP.
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Aug 31, 2012
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I have a feeling there's some setting that I'm not doing right. I updated my Geforce drivers.
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The thing that is killing me though is the RAM Preview is going almost 3x faster than a normal render. Even when the normal render destination is an SSD and compression is None. otherwise exact same settings i.e. 100%, best quality.
The really interesting part is that when doing a MP RAM preview the CPU usage (as viewed in activity monitor) is a solid wall of green but when I do a standard MP render the CPU useage is fluctuating wildly. I've tried various dififerent MP options (all maintaining a safe RAM overhead for the sysytem) with very little difference in performance.
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2) I was wondering if photoshop CC being slow is also affected by my file size. The image is 37cm x 142cm at 300 pixel/inch. The file is quite small at 38.8Mb, but I noticed that the document size on the photoshop status bar is 209.7M/552.0M instead. I was wondering if this status bar was a clearer indicator of how slow I could expect the file to be?
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On my old computer, which was a 2.8Gzh Pentium, older model toshiba, photoshop ran really slow, there wwere "lags" when i would click around in a big image. Not bad, but there.
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Yet for some reason, batching files runs MUCh slower on the new machine. I've tried to figure out why but can't see anything. Same batch from the same action too. All I'm doing is this:
"Generate proofs" action"
open raw file
fit image to 450
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I know that nitrous is slow with pflow and animation but I did not expect it to have such poor performance with modelling?!
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Updated my POST due to no replies.
Jennifer O'ConnorMastering mental ray ®Rendering Techniques for 3D ... is generally required for all 8-bit images saved as JPEG and PNG, and not ...... I found that most people where confused about PNG being 16- bit. Now I see I am doing good to keep the resolution and pixel size down to 8 bit.
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