Paint Shop Pro :: End To End Color Management
Dec 24, 2013
I understand many of the aspects of color management: gamut, color space, profiles, calibration, and most of the accompanying pieces. The problem is that I don't understand the inter-relationships of the various steps between taking a photo and printing it.
My equipment is not wonderful. If I were serious, I would have spent 10x what I did; but I'm not a pro. I'll settle for the best I can squeeze out of it. My goal, at this point, is to get my prints to look like what's on the screen.
For software I am using PSP X6 and Windows 8.1.
The photos I get come from various sources. As I understand it, those images (primarily JPEG if they come from a camera, presumably RAW if I scan directly into PSP) should have the profile of the capturing device embedded in them. Is that correct?
In the past I've been told that I should always use the color management in my editing application, rather than whatever Windows makes available. Is that still true? So far as I can tell, there is no way to turn off Windows Color Management (WCS).
You can turn off color management in PSP. There is a checkbox for it.I've been reading that I should set my PSP color working space to sRGB. Is that turned on and off by the color management checkbox? Assuming I have a profile for my capture device (camera or scanner), should I use that profile instead?
I have factory supplied profiles for both my monitor and my printer. Supposedly the printer will automatically select one of its various profiles based upon the paper I use, but that's a setting in WCS. (I can force a particular profile if I want.) In PSP's color management, I have to pick the profile manually.
Should I turn off color management in PSP, and set everything up in WCS? WCS has a setting for viewing conditions. The default is "WCS profile for sRGB viewing conditions", the alternative is "WCS profile for ICC viewing conditions". Does that mean that I could (or should) get an ICC profile based upon my work area's lighting, etc.
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Nov 23, 2012
6 months ago I purchased a new computer with Windows 7 Home Premium. I reinstalled Paint Shop Pro X4 but have not used it much since then. Recently I wanted to print some photos and I was very disappointed that the results were VERY red. I have a Canon MP600 printer that I have used for several years with very good results. With my old computer (on Win XP) the difference between the monitor and printer was minimal. I am not familiar with the technical jargon relating to color management and relied on the operating system to do a satisfactory job. I only use PSP as a hobby and am not as picky as most photographers but this was very disappointing. I also tried printing some graphics as might be used in a brochure and the colors were too red. I cleaned the print heads as per the Canon instructions and all 5 ink cartridges are full. I might also mention that grayscale images print looking similar to sepia although they are grayscale on the monitor.
don't get too technical as I don't really understand this whole "color management" thing.
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Feb 10, 2012
But I have and EP3 and am using Olympus Viewer 2 to manipulate the RAW images, I then edit the TIFFs in PaintShopPro 4. I have also calibrated my Dell 2410 with SpyderPro4.
My challenge is that the image edited in OV2 looks very different when viewed in PSP 4. I think the issue is that OV 2 is embedding a color space of "sRGB IEC61966" not the profile I set up using Spyder (as shown in the information screen of the resulting TIFF). when I open PSP it then says it is converting the "sRGB IEC61966" color space to my Spyder profile.
I have set OV2 to use Color Management and to "embed profile when saved". The monitor profile selected is my Spyder profile. Is this a bug? Is there a setting I should use in PSP4? Or si the problem on OV2?
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Apr 24, 2012
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I recently calibrated my monitor with a Spyder 4 Express. I process my RAW images in ACDSee Pro, saving them as tiffs - ProPhoto RGB. Yet when I open the same images in PP, skin tones are quite saturated and I'm wondering why? Prior to calibrating my monitor, everything was normal across all my programs, as it is now in ACDSee Pro. But not with PP and OnOne. Something has changed between the programs and I can't see what. I've attached my current Color Management settings from PP.
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Dec 21, 2011
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I have a problem with the color management of my corel Photo Paint X4.I create Flyer in CMYK and the color management is set as you can see in the attachment.On screen all colors are correct, but when i print something the colors look like it ignores the color management settings for the printer.
When i open the same document in my old Photo Paint 10 with the same color management settingsthe printing has the right colors...
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Oct 19, 2011
read that color management pdf by gennady petrov and tried a few things he wrote. I turned off color management in the printer driver, chose corel to manage color, and the image default profile sRGBxxxxx. picture was way dark and ugly. tried several other profiles and same dark picture. hmm that did not work so well.
went back to the printer driver and disabled no color management, and chose the profile Adobe RGB. still kept corel as manager and chose A RGB as the profile and the print looked spot on. Have not had problems printing from corel because I have come up with my own system, but was quite surprised at the result from turning off color management in the printer driver.
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Nov 21, 2011
I'm exporting Tiff Prophoto files from Lightroom into PSPX4 for further processing. The images are 1 to 2 stops under exposed when compared to Lightroom's image.I have selected PSPX4 color profile to match LR export color space.
I have tried exporting the Tiffs as sRGB and adode1998 and still the images are under exposed. I have little knowledge about color management and have searched around the web for possible answers, but no luck.
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Oct 18, 2012
For family history purposes, wish to improve the legibility of some hand written 1930 telegrams; the ink has faded with time so I want to change its colour to black. The form printing has not faded.
The user guide draws attention to the fact that the color selected for replacement must be in the image. Using the Dropper tool with sample size 1 pixel I position the dropper where I want it, see the color in the preview window, then right-click and the selected color appears in the background window on the Materials panel. So far, so good. I then place the Dropper tool over black in the swatch on the Materials panel, click and black appears in the Foreground window of the Materials panel. I think I'm set.
When I select the Color Replacer tool the background window immediately reverts to another color, usually white.Incidentally, the user guide suggests you read up on selecting colors with the Dropper; when you do this you learn that its OK to pick colors from the Materials panel.
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Jul 29, 2011
Question #1.
Were can I change the "color saturation" to use for my "color changer"?
Question #2.
When using "point-to-point" or "edge seeker", is there a way to go back one or two steps, without having to start all over again?
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May 15, 2012
I want to use the paint brush for editing a photo I have, but the only color available is black. No matter where I've looked in PSP, there was no option to change the color of the paint brush. I've read online that you need to change the pallet to material pallet, then go to "Foreground & Stroke Properties" and set the color box to the color I want, but the only colors I get are different hues of black and gray.
Even in Paint it's just a matter of clicking the desired color to use different colors. Why isn't it so simple in PSP?
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Aug 19, 2012
I have PSP X4 SP2.
Current color working space: AdobeRGB1998.icc.
I want to take HDR photo. I have 3 pictures JPG in AdobeRGB1998. When I giving HDR/MERGE EXPOSURE program automatically changing color profile of my pictures from AdobeRGB for sRGB. Why does it happen?
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Jan 25, 2012
Just updated from X3 to X4. Spent an hour looking for the workspace color so I could get rid of the huge graphite box. Updated to SP1, found this forum, saw how to change the color in the files menu, and was very disappointed that the menu backgrounds changed, but not the BIG GRAPHITE BOX IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN!!
X3 gave us control of the colors. X4 is a big disappointment.what about the big graphite elephant in the room, the workspace?
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Sep 15, 2011
When I try to print, the print placement dialogue box shows the image in greyscale, and when I click the options tab, the options to print color and CMYK separations are greyed out. Going ahead to print gives me a B&W print. The same file prints perfectly in color in PSP X3. What setting I need to tweak?
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May 17, 2012
the image is attached.I would like to make the pin "blue", without loosing "real" appearance.
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Sep 9, 2011
In the X3 version there was a menue setting for the color of the work space where you could change it and not have to use the Graphite color. In the X4 version there is nowhere to select non default color. There should be as not everyone wants to be forced into having it the default"graphite or whatever"color.
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Jul 3, 2011
I no longer have my Paint Shop manual and I don't know what "this" is called to search here or in my help section of my software.
I have Paint Shop Pro Photo X2, version 12.00
I want to change a pic I have of Jimi Hendrix like the one below so I can sketch it onto a canvas. I have played around with Photo shop.
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Sep 1, 2012
Coming from Pspx2 into Pspx4 this week. Applied a text title to a border on an image yesterday. Accustomed to having just a background colour for plain text. Went to click off the foreground colour and could not find a choice for NO COLOUR in the foreground Also No text box.....what happened to the text box?
What is the procedure for plain text with a single colour now in Pspx4
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May 8, 2013
I am having a rather strange problem with PSP X14. I will describe my general workflow and where the problem occurs.
I do some editing to my photo and save it as a full size image. Next I resize it to a much smaller version for use online. I have no problems at all with these two steps. Next, I cancel the resized dimensions and resize it again to a file closer to the original size, after I sometimes sharpen it and add a canvas. Many of the thumbnails for this last step have horizontal color bars across the bottom of the thumbnail, ranging roughly from 1/16 to 1/3 of the image size. When I hit on it and open the file, the bar is not there. I tried opening this thumbnail in another photo editing program and when I have access to the thumbnails for opening, that bar is there on select images, and when I open the file, it's gone. Unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to try printing it yet.
I've been following this basic formula for preparing and editing photos for a very long time and haven't had this problem until recently. And it's random, as not all images have this problem. I tried changing this process and reopening the full size file that has been edited and resize that one, but am getting the same random results. I have no problems with the thumbnails for the full size and the first reduced size images.
I have been a long time user of PSP...since v.7 and upgrade versions regularly. I'm running Windows 7 premium, 64-bit on a laptop with an Intel i-7 processor.
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Jun 9, 2013
In my PaintShop Pro X4 there is a plugin called "Color Efex 3.0 Pro Complete" by Nik Software. Can I get that plugged into my PaintShop Pro X5? How?
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Dec 8, 2011
I downloaded the trial of PSPx4 and sadly enough the trial does not include Nik's Color Efex Pro 3 (CEP3). What I would like to see, is if the CEP3 window actually fills the screen, or if it is smaller and the user unable to "maximize" it.
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Feb 1, 2012
I'm testing the trial of X4, and it opens in an unpleasant window which has a dark gray background - is it possible to change the color of this background?
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Jan 25, 2012
I downloaded a trial version of PSP X4. When i export an image from ASP in ProPhoto RGB color profile, PSP insist to convert it to sRGB. I wonder what is the color profile that been used by PSP as the working space?
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Apr 8, 2013
Any way to simply remove a color by replacing it with a transparency? More specifically, the background of my image is solid black but the object itself is a little too intricate to cut out via the selection tool.
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Aug 23, 2013
I tried moving Nik Color Efex 3.0 out of PSPx5 Plug Ins folder into PSPx6 Plug Ins folder, but that didn't work. Tried plugging in via Preferences...File Locations...Plugins... but that didn't work either.
I installed 64 & 32 bit version per the installation instructions. Is there anyway I can install Nik Color Efex that came with x5 into x6?
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Aug 1, 2011
I have a problem with the display of images that come out too blue. The thumbnail looks correct but the large preview image has too much blue. I have processed the same raw images in other software with no issues but this seems to be an issue with Paint Shop Pro. Is there a setting that needs to be changed?
Once I open the image the image in the raw converter it shows the color balance "As Shot" as a different value that what the Adobe software reads. Not sure why. You can try and adjust the blueness out of the image but why do I need to do this all the time when I don't have to in other programs.
If I open any image in the full editor the thumbnail takes on this too blue look as well, even if no color adjustments were made.
I have attached 2 screen shots that show the problem.
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Aug 19, 2012
I wonder if there is a way to do something like that in PSP: [URL].......
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Aug 17, 2013
I want to create a background color of #666666. I have both paintshop 7 & just got X5. I know how to use colors from the chart. But how do I specify a color by number?
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May 6, 2013
In Paintshop Pro X5 Is it possible to change the color of preset shape like arrows. Or is there another way to make arrows in different colors.
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Oct 31, 2013
In Photoshop, there is a SELECT/COLOR RANGE tool that allows the selection of Highlights, Shadows, etc. Is there anything comparable in PSP X6? This would be very useful when trying to adjust for example blown highlights.
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Aug 30, 2013
Attached is the popup that displays whenever I hover over a color with the dropper.This "SHOULD NEVER SEE!" is what appears.I have used X3 since it was released, and today is the first time this has happened, and it won't go away.
I've closed psp, re-booted the computer, then opened psp. No change.I reset the workspace to default, which sometimes fixes issues, but again, no luck.
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Sep 26, 2011
I need to save a .jpg in a certain format which is
- Resolution: 72 dpi
- Color space: RGB 32 Bit.
Just wondering how I would go about this?
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