AutoCad 2D :: How To Use Annotative Objects Correctly
Dec 9, 2011
My mtext and multileader styles are created to be "annotative"; however, they didn't have a consistent size through all my different scaled viewports. When I drew them on my model, I added the scales needed, but on the viewports, the only objects consistent in size were the "Drawing Title" from my tool palette and the arrowhead from the multileaders.
When I created these objects, I typed in 0'-0" for the height. But then in the text panel (Annotate tab) I saw there is a drop-down menu with different heights, which seem to override the 0'-0" height.
I ended up drawing these objects on paper space, and they looked fine until I opened the drawing days later (the text was considerably larger).
How can I draw mtext or multileaders on model space, and add scales correctly?
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Sep 19, 2012
I am running Autocad arch 2011 (as Autocad 2011) and a co worker is using Autocad electrical 2012 and when he works in a drawing of mine the every annotative scale that is used in the file is attached to every annotative object. Which means I have to go through every object and delete scales that should be be there....all my annotative objects appear in every view port because every annotative object has every scale..
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Aug 15, 2012
I am running ACA 2011 X64.I have some leaders that I copied from one drawing into another drawing.
When copied the leaders do not display their attributes. I cannot seem to figure out how to do it. I have made sure they are both in the same annotative scale and that both have the current scales loaded.
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Dec 9, 2010
I am using 2010 and when I am on my sheet or viewing my database through a viewport annotative objects tend to disappear and it happens randomly. It's only a few objects that will disappear while others are shown.
Example: My grid bubbles may disappear, but leaders, text, dimensions, etc are visible.
Another example is door or window tags may disappear while grid, leaders, etc are all shown and when they don't show up they also don't print. Reloading the xref doesn't bring them back also. I have to physically go into the database and make some kind of change (erase a line and than undo; draw a line and than delete it; change a scale, anything); save the drawing and then go to my sheet and reload the xref to get them to come back.
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Nov 5, 2012
how annotative objects function through xrefs and am running into some trouble.I created a brand new drawing, made an annotative symbol and 2 peices of annotative text, all three have 1"=20' and 1"=40' assigned to them. I can switch my scale back and forth and the objects act as they should.
If creat a second drawing and xref the first one, the only way I can see these xref'd objects is if I set ANNOALLVISIBLE to "1" or if I select one of their xref scales as the current scale 1"=20'_Xref or 1"=40'_Xref.
My goal is to be able to have plans that are annotative that can be xref'd into another annotative drawing and have the objects in both that are the same scale show up.
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Aug 14, 2008
I have tried to make a dynamic block using annotative objects, text leaders, etc. The block was created initially as annotative but later somehow after going over it in the block editor. It has lost it's annotative properties. Is there a way to make a dynamic block that is not annotative, make it annotative. this block has only visibility features.
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Nov 2, 2012
have some questions about annotative objects.
The first, if i have created many annotative dimensions and texts and with the time many scales get attached to these objects during editing ( the scales which i don't use on my layouts anymore but have used on these objects ones) How can I quickly and efficiently delete all the scales that are not in use on my layouts in my viewports for all the annotative objects?
the second question is how can I create annotative tags( dynamic blocks that can be scaled like annotative texts)?
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Oct 30, 2012
After drawing in model space(1:1 Scale) I then dimension as needed using Annotative Dimensions, Multileaders and MText using the same 1:1 scale. But when I create the variuos viewports on my layout pages the dimensions aren't scaling to the viewport scale.
This is where it may be partly my fault; When I first started using annotative dimensions etc. a box would pop up asking what scale to use. Because I am dimensioning in model space, rather than always seeing this text box I selected "Do not ask again" check box to always use 1:1 scaling.
These are some of the other settings in place;
ANNOAUTOSCALE = 4
Annotation Visibility = ON
Automatically Add Scales = ON
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Jun 20, 2012
is it possible select all ANNOTATIVE objects in a DWG and to set a Viewport/ANNO scale for all via lisp
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May 14, 2012
Seem like when I cut and paste objects from one file to another, particularly objects with different annotative scale, my lexisting ayers would get corrupted. Standard layer names will be appended with "@_96" at the end (i.e. "symbols" to "symbols@_96"l . The 96 would represent the annotative scale factor in the current file. If I exit out and reopen the file, all layer names will return bsck to normal. However if I cont. to work on the file for a long time, the file will get corrupted. when restore, a lot of annotative symbols that where on different "@_96" layers will merge into on new "audit" layer. Sometimes the symbols show up with a different current annotative scale
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Jun 26, 2012
I love annotative scaling of objects it is a great feature. I am however having one problem that I'm not sure if I've missed a setting or something. Is there a way to prevent civil 3d from scaling your annotative objects based on the view scale you are looking at? For example if I zoom out (in model space or max viewport) to show my entire drawing and regen, civil 3d scales all my text and blocks to an enomous scale esentially blocking my entire drawing with solid colour. also if I zoom into a small area to do some detail work all my text becomes microscopic and unuseable. This makes adjusting text so it doesn;t overlap other text very difficult if it never appears at the correct size. Is there a way to freeze annotative objects at thier correct scale (for the current viewport scale) so they dont scale simply because you zoom in or out on a drawing?
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Oct 26, 2012
how you get objects, say i drew a rectangle, to the correct size from model space to paper space. And why when you change the dimensions of an object to meters from milimeters, does it not change the size of the object on paperspace when it's at the same scale.
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May 15, 2012
I'm new to 3DS Max Design and I'm trying to export a model to .3ds format. When I open the .3ds file in 3DS Max it looks fine. However, when I open it in other programs, like Google Sketchup, the model is not correct. Objects are not aligned correctly. See the pic.
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Nov 12, 2012
I've rendered a prepass for the IR and sent the job to BB like normal. The issue is with one piece of geometry. It's rendering it out of place when rendered through bb. If I render the frames directly in Max it renders correctly. This would be fine but I'm trying to render a 300+ frame batch to fix this area and I'd really like to be able to use the farm.
I tried copying the transform keys from the object, deleting it and replacing it with a fresh copy of the geometry made in a fresh/empty file and then pasting the keys back on. Then rendered out the prepass in Vray and I'm still getting the problem. It's obviously not with Vray because when I render directly through max it renders correctly. It's got to be BB but I'm completely stumped as to why or how to fix it. It's as if BB is getting incorrect geometry information from the max file.
The object renders through bb transformed in the x axis. In other words, the object is rendered about 3 feet off to the right of where it actually is.
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Jan 3, 2013
How do I make annotative tags, callouts, and blocks non-annotative. AutoCad will not let me change them in the properties tab.
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Feb 7, 2013
I have a co-worker who needs to create a block where the attributes scale with the anno scale, but the block container does not. He's creating a tree block and wants the canopy and trunk attributes to scale without scaling the tree symbol.
Making an attribute annotative and applying the scales to the attributes doesn't seem to work if the block itself isn't annotative.
Are we missing something, or is this just not possible?
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May 29, 2012
Is there any trick that bring in an annotative block into a drawing at the annotative scale you are working in, not the scale the block was created in?
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Mar 12, 2014
I make a compound object, then when I resize it, it moves anchors around. Note the corners on the 3rd "8" -- they're pinched together. This is happening on a lot of different object
Edit: There are no "snaps" enabled.
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Feb 21, 2014
I created a closed object that had a Bezier curve as part of it's definition. I wanted to scale it by 110% and then use this second enlarged object to create a sort of a background underneath the first object to create a sort of a shadow effect. But rather than the second object being uniformly larger than the first it intersects the original object in ways that don't make sense to me.
Is there an easier/differnt way to create an effect like this? I can do it but have to manually adjust a lot of points in the new object so that they create a uniformly larger version of the original object but it's a lot of effort for something that works fine for normal polygons with straight lines (e.g. a star with 5 points).
i've attached an image of what I get with this technique of creating two examples of two objects one a 110% scale version of the other. The first star shows the effect I'm trying to get and the second shows the problem (the red border does not surround the black object uniformly around the perimeter)
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Sep 23, 2011
I have attached the block for reference. Now that I have found the error of my way with the annotative cutline. I have a slab-on-grade block that needs to have annotative hatches; I also need the cutline to be annotative and dynamic so that as the drawing scale changes the scale of the cutline will be match and I can adjust the length of the extension lines. I have made the cutline a nested annotative and dynamic block within the slab-on-grade block. When I insert the block into my drawing the cutline is annotative and the dynamic grips show up but they do not work.
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Oct 29, 2012
My company is in the process of updating the entire block library to be annotative or dynamic (depending on the usage) and it's been wonderful for new projects.
The problem comes in when we have to update an existing dwg. When we try to "blockreplace" the new annotative tags for the old non-annotative tags. These tags have attributes, but we have literally not changed anything about the blocks except the "annotativedwg" property within the root block file. When we run block replace, the old blocks disappear completely! they're not at a teeny scale or a gigantic scale, they're not on an "off" or "frozen" layer, they just fully go away even if you say "don't purge the old block that is being replaced".
I usually don't have a problem "doing my job" and just going through and replacing them individually on the smaller sized projects, but most of our projects have upwards of 700 - 1000 tags per dwg. Slightly tedious as you can imagine, especially since I am addicted to finding newer faster better ways to draw.
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Mar 19, 2012
I set my annotative style (named MyADim) as current and do the dim.
But sometimes, when I check the property of the dim, It shows using "MyADim$0" and the annotative is not open.
How do I set to let it always open?
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Aug 29, 2011
How to use annotative blocks; I searched the forums and used google a lot but I still don't get it. The problem is me, that is for shure! I have been using regular blocks for ages, and since a year or so I use dynamic block also.
It won't get through to me how the annotative option should work, I try, click and see but none of the results are what I am after.
This is my situation; I clean up a drawing (a building like a house), this I use as an xref. Once it is Xreffed to a new *.dwg I set dimscale to 50. For Nearly all of mij viewports are set to 1:50. All the blocks I insert are scaled up * dimscale.
Like a block that is 3mmx3mm is inserted as 150x150. Now, in some occasions, I have 2 viewports with a different scale. One is 1:50, the other is 1:100. I want the block to look the same in the 1:100 VP as it does in the 1:50VP. But it ain't happening.
If I insert the block when dimscale is 1, then the annotation works, but is it worthless in modelspace for the blocks are a factor 50 too small.
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Apr 24, 2013
I do not use annotative text very often, for the first time, I need 1/4 inch and 3/4 inch viewports in the same drawing. How do I setup the dims and text to appear correctly in both viewports?
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Feb 6, 2013
I have created an annotative block. This block is displayed in a few different viewports at different scales. After I create the block I go and check the viewports and it is displaying well. The linework (polylines and a circle) is annotative as is the text in the block.
However, if I then change the scale/annotative scale of a viewport, the block doesn't seem to update properly. The text within the block updates to the new size although the linework within the block doesn't seem to scale and resets back to the model space size.
I've tried regenning etc with no luck. Is there a command I need to use after changing a viewport scale to force annotative blocks to update?
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Feb 14, 2012
I'm having issues with annotative symbols jumping around the page. As far as I can tell, it happens on certain symbols when I add a second(or more) annotative scale to that symbol. I can reset the symbols so that they're all aligned and sitting 'on top' of each other, but when I switch to different viewports/plot or save/open the drawing again they've reverted to the position they jump too.
In the past I thought it might be something to do with where the basepoint was within the block, but having changed that, I still had the problem.
Both the blocks I've had it happen with are reasonably simple (one's an 'Auto Air Valve' symbol with a mask behind the lines, the other is a custom 'Section line' symbol although that also has some properties to allow me to extend the section line) objects. With the section line symbol I mirror it to get the second half, which is the half it's having the problem on. I wouldn't expect mirroring an object would do it though.
The odd thing is, it's only happened in some drawings that I've done, and only with some symbols (which were all created at a similar time, so should have the same issues?), so I can't think of what it could be.
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Aug 28, 2012
How do I get the extension lines to be annotative?
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Sep 15, 2011
I have a sample piece of annotative text that I dragged and dropped onto my tool palette. It works perfectly fine in the file I dragged and dropped from, but not in any other file. When I insert in into another file, the text is no longer annotative. I gave the text style a unique name in the file I dragged and dropped from.
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Jul 11, 2011
Ok it seems that I may be overlooking something simple. This is what I am currently dong. I have a detail sheet with several different scales. I want to use annotative dimensions and mleaders so I don't have to create the many dimstyles for different scales.
My set up:imagine a model space with 4 squares reprsenting 4 different scales. I start annotating in 1"=1'-0". Then I go to another detail at 3/4" = 1'-0". When I change my scale using that item in the lower right my annotations in the 1"=1'-0" also changes. I don't want it to change I want it to stay at 1"-0". How can I make it stay at 1'=1'-0" regardless of whatever other scale I have switched to?
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Jul 13, 2012
I seem to be having an issue with some mtext with a a particular annotation scale set.
Every time i open this .dwg all my 1:5000 mtext paper defined widths are shrinking. I can honestly say i am not doing anything as it just open this way! But all my other annotative text scale are fine?
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May 16, 2011
I am trying to use annotative scale for the first time. What I am trying to use it for is the following:
I have blocks setup for the legend on our drawings. Say if I hatch a footpath in a drawings, I have a legend item that I insert into paperspace that has a sample of that hatch and the text "Existing footpath". Can I set the annotative scale in paperspace so that no matter what the viewport scale the legend item in paperspace will look similar to it.
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