AutoCAD 2010 :: How Annotative Objects Function Through Xrefs
Nov 5, 2012
how annotative objects function through xrefs and am running into some trouble.I created a brand new drawing, made an annotative symbol and 2 peices of annotative text, all three have 1"=20' and 1"=40' assigned to them. I can switch my scale back and forth and the objects act as they should.
If creat a second drawing and xref the first one, the only way I can see these xref'd objects is if I set ANNOALLVISIBLE to "1" or if I select one of their xref scales as the current scale 1"=20'_Xref or 1"=40'_Xref.
My goal is to be able to have plans that are annotative that can be xref'd into another annotative drawing and have the objects in both that are the same scale show up.
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Dec 9, 2010
I am using 2010 and when I am on my sheet or viewing my database through a viewport annotative objects tend to disappear and it happens randomly. It's only a few objects that will disappear while others are shown.
Example: My grid bubbles may disappear, but leaders, text, dimensions, etc are visible.
Another example is door or window tags may disappear while grid, leaders, etc are all shown and when they don't show up they also don't print. Reloading the xref doesn't bring them back also. I have to physically go into the database and make some kind of change (erase a line and than undo; draw a line and than delete it; change a scale, anything); save the drawing and then go to my sheet and reload the xref to get them to come back.
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Jan 4, 2013
I have a base plan. The text scale is set to 1"=40' I xref the base plan into a strucural bridge plan sheet and scale the base map x 12 so that i can work in architetural scale. How do I get the text to scale correctly in the xref'd base map that has been scaled by 12 for a 1/8" scale?
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Nov 2, 2012
have some questions about annotative objects.
The first, if i have created many annotative dimensions and texts and with the time many scales get attached to these objects during editing ( the scales which i don't use on my layouts anymore but have used on these objects ones) How can I quickly and efficiently delete all the scales that are not in use on my layouts in my viewports for all the annotative objects?
the second question is how can I create annotative tags( dynamic blocks that can be scaled like annotative texts)?
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Oct 30, 2012
After drawing in model space(1:1 Scale) I then dimension as needed using Annotative Dimensions, Multileaders and MText using the same 1:1 scale. But when I create the variuos viewports on my layout pages the dimensions aren't scaling to the viewport scale.
This is where it may be partly my fault; When I first started using annotative dimensions etc. a box would pop up asking what scale to use. Because I am dimensioning in model space, rather than always seeing this text box I selected "Do not ask again" check box to always use 1:1 scaling.
These are some of the other settings in place;
ANNOAUTOSCALE = 4
Annotation Visibility = ON
Automatically Add Scales = ON
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May 14, 2012
Seem like when I cut and paste objects from one file to another, particularly objects with different annotative scale, my lexisting ayers would get corrupted. Standard layer names will be appended with "@_96" at the end (i.e. "symbols" to "symbols@_96"l . The 96 would represent the annotative scale factor in the current file. If I exit out and reopen the file, all layer names will return bsck to normal. However if I cont. to work on the file for a long time, the file will get corrupted. when restore, a lot of annotative symbols that where on different "@_96" layers will merge into on new "audit" layer. Sometimes the symbols show up with a different current annotative scale
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Sep 19, 2012
I am running Autocad arch 2011 (as Autocad 2011) and a co worker is using Autocad electrical 2012 and when he works in a drawing of mine the every annotative scale that is used in the file is attached to every annotative object. Which means I have to go through every object and delete scales that should be be there....all my annotative objects appear in every view port because every annotative object has every scale..
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Jan 1, 2012
My master drawing includes things like network information, drops, V-lans and bandwidths,
I want to use a database to count various objects/blocks in a drawing. Ideally I want to write a macro button that enables me to export the information in the drawing straight into a database.
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Feb 7, 2013
I have a co-worker who needs to create a block where the attributes scale with the anno scale, but the block container does not. He's creating a tree block and wants the canopy and trunk attributes to scale without scaling the tree symbol.
Making an attribute annotative and applying the scales to the attributes doesn't seem to work if the block itself isn't annotative.
Are we missing something, or is this just not possible?
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Sep 12, 2012
I have my Transmittal settings file format set to: AutoCAD 2007 Drawing Format with Exploded AEC Objects, but the E-Transmit will not explode the AEC objects in attached Xrefs. I can't find any setting that would allow this or prevent this. It worked fine in C3D 2012, but it's not working in 2013.
Civil 3D 2013
64-bit HP Desktop - HP Z420
Intel Xeon CPU E5-1620 0 @ 3.60 GHz
24GB RAM
AMD Radeon HD 6570
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Nov 15, 2013
When an object in an XRef is tagged (and the object has an object based PSD) the tag will not update to reflect changes made in the XRef.
This can be fixed in the XRef by running the PropertyDataBrowser command and unticking the Overrides (shown in the leftmost tickbox when two tick boxes present).
Any automatic way to keep the tags up to date? I have attached my VB.Net code attempt for this. It almost works BUT the MultiViewBlock Overrides are ReadOnly.
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Dec 9, 2011
My mtext and multileader styles are created to be "annotative"; however, they didn't have a consistent size through all my different scaled viewports. When I drew them on my model, I added the scales needed, but on the viewports, the only objects consistent in size were the "Drawing Title" from my tool palette and the arrowhead from the multileaders.
When I created these objects, I typed in 0'-0" for the height. But then in the text panel (Annotate tab) I saw there is a drop-down menu with different heights, which seem to override the 0'-0" height.
I ended up drawing these objects on paper space, and they looked fine until I opened the drawing days later (the text was considerably larger).
How can I draw mtext or multileaders on model space, and add scales correctly?
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Aug 14, 2008
I have tried to make a dynamic block using annotative objects, text leaders, etc. The block was created initially as annotative but later somehow after going over it in the block editor. It has lost it's annotative properties. Is there a way to make a dynamic block that is not annotative, make it annotative. this block has only visibility features.
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Oct 15, 2013
I am working on a rather big xref setup. The MAIN file has got about 10 OVERVIEW files refferenced in, each of the OVERVIEW files got another 15-20 DRAWING files attached.
Now when i attach OVERVIEW to MAIN it brings in all the DRAWINGS as unique xrefs as well.
Of course i want to see the DRAWNIGS in the MAIN file, but I'd prefer not to see them in the xref-manger (where i want to see only the OVERVIEW files).
An additional problem is that the DRAWINGS contain pictures on layout-tabs which are also shown in the MAIN file xref manager.
So long story short: is there a possibility to "hide" the sub-xrefs in the xref-manager?
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Jan 22, 2013
Every time I reload the xref, regenerating the drawing or plot my details, I need to wait a long while. I have a plan (dwg) and the details (dwg) where I xrefed the plan 6 times. Everything is purged and audited. i thought this is a good way to work. Some tips how to manage with xrefs.
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Jun 20, 2012
is it possible select all ANNOTATIVE objects in a DWG and to set a Viewport/ANNO scale for all via lisp
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Feb 21, 2012
Any settings that will automatically check changes to an xref and re-load it instead of just telling you "an xref needs reloading"? the problem is occuring when i go to publish and i end up with out-dated info because acad doesn't auto-refresh the xrefs.
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Jun 14, 2010
When using selection cycling (which I think is brilliant, shame we didn't have it 15 years ago) with an xref attached the application slows right down to the point where moving the mouse results in the cross hairs jumping around and making using anything almost impossible. Turning the xref off or turning selection cycling off restores performance to how it should be. If both are on I just cannot use the program at all, shame really as this new feature is neat. I use x'refs extensively so this fault restricts use of the new feature.
I am running a Quad core 6600 intel processor
4gb Ram
Nvidia Quadro NVS 290
32 bit Windows Vista Business
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May 30, 2012
Im working on a drawing and im going to have window tags (ones i created with just text and made into a block) with 8" high text in the main drawing. im going to xref that drawing into another drawing but i want all those window tags to be scaled to .5 (giving 4" high text) but nothing else to scale. Is there a way that i can do this?
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Jan 4, 2013
I will be working with a company across town on a drawing set. Let's call my company CompanyA and them CompanyB. We will be colaberating on the drawing together possibly in realtime. What I need to do is to be able to xref their drawing into mine and mine into theirs and I need to be able to still make changes to my drawing and them to theirs.
CompanyA - DrawingA
CompanyB - DrawingB
DrawingA will xref DrawingB
DrawingB will xref DrawingA
When I make changes to my drawing I need to be able to save it without the attched xref so as not to nest the xrefs in a loop.
We will be working together via VPN in realtime.
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Apr 12, 2013
why my xrefs are coming in really dark ? I like to have a black model space so it's really hard to see them. There must be a setting somewhere.
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Jun 26, 2012
I love annotative scaling of objects it is a great feature. I am however having one problem that I'm not sure if I've missed a setting or something. Is there a way to prevent civil 3d from scaling your annotative objects based on the view scale you are looking at? For example if I zoom out (in model space or max viewport) to show my entire drawing and regen, civil 3d scales all my text and blocks to an enomous scale esentially blocking my entire drawing with solid colour. also if I zoom into a small area to do some detail work all my text becomes microscopic and unuseable. This makes adjusting text so it doesn;t overlap other text very difficult if it never appears at the correct size. Is there a way to freeze annotative objects at thier correct scale (for the current viewport scale) so they dont scale simply because you zoom in or out on a drawing?
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Jul 12, 2012
how to turn off transparency display of the xrefs? When i xref drawing A into drawing B, drawing A displays transparency. That autocad default and I want to turn it off.
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Jul 27, 2012
We are Xreffing Images in AutoCAD 2011. The Aspect Ratio is different when the Images show up in the AutoCAD drawing.
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Jan 8, 2013
I have been searching for a solution to better manage xrefs. We work with arch. dwgs and they often contain several nested xrefs. While working in our "base.dwg", I need a method to correct the problem of some layers in the xrefs from displaying in the base.dwg when they're frozen in the xref dwgs. VISRETAIN is at 1. What I'm having to do is click on the problem geometry, identify what xref it's in, open that xref to record the layer state(all the layers that should be frozen or thawed), go back to the base dwg, look in Layer Manager to indentify that xref's layers and freeze the layers I need frozen. However, if I open the xref all those layers that should be frozen ARE frozen, but back in the base dwg they are displayed (not frozen). It's very frustrating...espec. when you've got half a dozen or more xrefs in many of their dwgs; which are all multiplied in the base of course so I've got two dozen or more xrefs to sift thru. It's just such a pain. I guess I need a "tip" on how to properly manage xrefs.
What would be neat is to be able independently manage all the Layer States for the xrefs separate from the base dwg's Layer States--meaning they(the xrefs' states) DON'T affect the other layers in the base(or other xrefs). LS Manager lists all layer states and if you restore one of them, it affects the entire dwg. I don't want that. I want the Layer States to control ONLY those states that apply to the xref it was created in. That way, all I'd need to do is click on the xref in Layer Manager(from the base dwg) and restore that particular xref's layer state and be DONE. That way you could manage all your xref Layer States individually (and independently from) the base dwg. Thus, if you make changes in the xrefs you can easily save/restore those states from within the base.
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Jun 16, 2011
How do I save xrefs in a drawing in Autocad 2012?
I´ve been using eTransmit command in previous versions, now that I´ve switched to v2012 there´s no longer support to save all dwg xrefs as dwg references in the eTransmit popup window. My dwg xrefs are instead attached as blocks.
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Mar 6, 2012
when i copy paste another persons drawing into mine,all the xrefs get placed well away from the the original drawing.
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Jul 26, 2012
I'm trying to reload a bunch of xref's through the project support path that I have setup, Really the project support path should be able to reload all the xref if they are already there. The problem is that the xrefs that im trying to reload ( the staus: says Unfreferenced and the type: Attachment) and when I type in the project name and then reload the xrefs, they should be able to find and link the xref to the drawing, but Im getting a a message saying that the xrefs are Orphaned and the status is Unreferenced. Its as though the system cant seem to find the xrefs with my projectname support path that I have setup.
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Jan 13, 2012
I've come across an action that appears to be a bug to me. I have a file Xref'd in my drawing that I've unloaded while I do some edting to the main file. While copying text in paperspace using the Copy & Paste feature from one tab to another, it's causing the unloaded Xref to reload when I activate the Paste feature using the Ctrl-V hot key. How to duplicate this?
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Apr 22, 2013
i have a large number of drawings that need xrefs detached and re-attached with the latest model xrefs, any way to do them in bulk rather than opening each individual drawing? the problem started a while back, when opening drawings, ACAD is not loading the latest 'saved' model when opening drawings...
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Jul 2, 2012
I am trying to change my Xrefs from full pathing to relative pathing. If the file i am trying to xref is located at the following location
\hfg.intdepartmentsProduction"6 HA"1 StructuralFabrication EngineeringDrawing OfficePrevious ProjectsA11001
What do i put for the file path for it to be relative pathed?
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