AutoCad 2D :: Annotative Scale Setup
May 16, 2011
I am trying to use annotative scale for the first time. What I am trying to use it for is the following:
I have blocks setup for the legend on our drawings. Say if I hatch a footpath in a drawings, I have a legend item that I insert into paperspace that has a sample of that hatch and the text "Existing footpath". Can I set the annotative scale in paperspace so that no matter what the viewport scale the legend item in paperspace will look similar to it.
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Sep 19, 2012
I am running Autocad arch 2011 (as Autocad 2011) and a co worker is using Autocad electrical 2012 and when he works in a drawing of mine the every annotative scale that is used in the file is attached to every annotative object. Which means I have to go through every object and delete scales that should be be there....all my annotative objects appear in every view port because every annotative object has every scale..
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May 29, 2012
Is there any trick that bring in an annotative block into a drawing at the annotative scale you are working in, not the scale the block was created in?
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Nov 8, 2013
I have a drawing with several layouts, and in one particular layout only, I want the text to be smaller than the annotation scale would dictate (the viewport is 1"=300', but I want the text to display at 1"=50' annotation scale).
I tried selecting the viewport and changing the "annotation scale" property to 1"=50', then the "standard scale" property to 1"=300'.
Strangely, this seems to work for a bunch of MText objects I have in the drawing, but it won't work for an alignment station label group or for a particular linetype...for some reason, those two things insist on having their annotation scale equal to the viewport scale.
I tried messing around with the alignment station label group's style but couldn't figure anything out. As far as the line/linetype, I'm completely at a loss why that one wouldn't change.
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Apr 10, 2013
I would like to find a lisp that changes the scale of something that has an annotative scale and deletes all other scales in the object scale list. Often i have many different scales of existing dimensions or objects. i waste a lot of time opening the annotation object scale dialogue box, selecting add, finding my scale and deleting the old scale.
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Nov 28, 2012
I've completed my drawing (Autocad architectural 2012) and set-up my multiple view-ports (at 1:50 and 1:5 scale) on my title-block.
I'm now going to add my text and dimensions im model space....and that's when the problems start!
I've created text and dimensions in annotative style.
The issue I have is when I change annotation scale from 1:50 to 1:5 my text and dimensions in model space automatically changes (as can be seen on attachment) to a huge scale but is perfect in layout view for differing scales.
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Feb 12, 2013
When I click the annotative scale icon at the bottom of screen it shows me the standard options to chose from:
(1/16"= 1'-0", 1/8"= 1'-0", 1/4"+ 1'-0" etc. etc..)
but it is permanently stuck in 1/4"=1-0"...
In other words if I select say 1"=1'-0"...and go to draw a dimension...the dimension is in 1/4"= 1'-0"....model space
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Mar 16, 2012
I have successfully created one drawing using annotative dims and text - I have set my text to 1:1 scale, height = 30 in paperspace (although I don't get what this refers to when it automatically says it's 30 in modelspace too) and my viewport is 1:20 scale. It's all good, the dims and text look great, which is what I want at the end of the day, however I got there.
But, when I want to set up another detail at 1:40 scale, I can't for the life of me figure out how to make the same dim and text style appear the same size as it was for the 1:20 detail.
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Apr 5, 2012
I have this complex section of an architectural project, which is drawn at 1:1 scale (obviously). It has lots of constructive details, however i've made lots of layers and everything is under control.However, as I started to hatch the drawings, i was having big problems at using the same drawing for different scales, because non-annotative hatches also change their size with different scales.
So I began trying annotative, and i did it as i read in several how-tos. I made an hatch in the layout to know the perfect scale for the hatch, then applied that scale in model hatches. Then, in properties, I selected the scales at which that hatch should belong. Until here everything was OK!
However, as the ideal scale for the hatches (ANSI31) was something like 0.0003, here started the problems. The layout has an erratic behavior with similar hatches (I even tried to use match props to be sure different hatches had the same properties). On different viewports, some of the hatches appear as solid, and they plot just like that! As I zoom in and zoom out, the problem changes, as problematic viewports become right and others become wrong.
I tried to change HPmaxlines to 10000000, i tried to change the size of ansi31 in acad.pat, however the problem persists. It seems that the problem disappears when i have increase the hatch scale to, lets say, 0.05, however it's not that scale I want because of the presentation...
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Nov 19, 2013
I created a associative and annotative hatch for a group of objects. It displays fine and the area measures fine. When I switch the annotative scale in the lower right for the whole drawing, portions of the hatch dissapear from the boundary objects - both visually and from the area in properties, When I switch back to original annotative scale, that area is still no longer there. In essense, parts of the hatch get deleted.
AutoCAD LT 2011
AutoCAD Civil 3D 2012
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Aug 15, 2013
I have a drawing that contains texts that are annotative. But I would like to change the scale of the drawing with the floating model space viewport in Paper Space. I know I can individually right click on the text and Add Current Scale to them but is there a way to do so globally?
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Jan 4, 2013
I have a base plan. The text scale is set to 1"=40' I xref the base plan into a strucural bridge plan sheet and scale the base map x 12 so that i can work in architetural scale. How do I get the text to scale correctly in the xref'd base map that has been scaled by 12 for a 1/8" scale?
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Jul 30, 2012
Im pretty new to annotative text. I was wondering how I can make text show in two viewports at two diffrent scales? Also how to I remove scales from text?
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Mar 1, 2012
SUBJECT: Annotative Scales.
I have a drawing with a 2 viewing ports
Port 1 is at 1/4"= 1'-0"
Port 2 is at 1/2"= 1'-0"
What should my Annotative setting be in model Space?
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May 3, 2013
How to setup the scale of drawing.
Luckily, I found an CAD template that already have scaled text and dimension size setup. now, I have to set different scale in the model space according on which scale i wanna plot on view port.
but for annotative scale, what scale should i use in model space? Overall, I just want all my text to be in same size when print out and in a readable size.
I setup my paper in 22x34 but mostly print out in 11x17 paper for office use.
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Oct 17, 2012
I have a drawing (attached) with the following settings: LTSCALE = 1, MSLTSCALE = 1, PSLTSCALE = 1.For some reason the linetype is not scaling based on the annotative scale. It will update correctly if I change the LTSCALE but for some reason it wants to ignore the MS and PSLTSCALE variables.
As a note, the drawing was converted from a Microstation drawing and the linetype is a converted Microstation linetype.Is there something in the linetype that is doing this.
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Jul 30, 2012
I am rather new to AutoCAD 2010, and have observed issues with Annotative Scale. I have tried to avoid that function like the plague, but now I have some time to learn of it and its power.
I've been tasked with creating/updating Electrical Department symbol blocks. Right now, I am working on lighting fixture blocks, and I have this particularly odd scenario when i'm making the Block Attributes. My new block is for a 2 foot by 4' lighting fixture. When this block is to be inserted in Model Space, the size will always remain constant (2'x4'), but I need the Attributes (one for the Fixture Type, and one to denote the Circuit Number and Switch leg) to change sizes per the plan scale on Paper Space.
How, and in which space, should I construct my light fixture block & attributes? And, which parts of the block or attributes should be Annotative? Also, the light fixture can be either oriented vertically or horizontally. Will I still be able to relocate the attribute using -EATTEDIT or -ATTEDIT?
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Jul 14, 2011
I have a dynamic block that contains both geometry as well as text. I don't want the geometry to scale up based on the drawing scale but I do want the text to scle according to the drawing scale. I have tried making the text both annotative and non-annotative in the block and get the same result. I can get the text to scale properly if I make the entire block annotative but that also scales the geometry which is not accurate.
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Mar 22, 2012
I seem to have lost the ability to add or remove an annotative scale for a single item (piece of text, block etc). I've always picked the annotative scale in the properties box and then hit the box at the right which brought up a small dialogue box where I could add or remove scales for the item that I'd highlighted. When I hit that box now, or the similar box in the right click menu nothing happens. AutoCAD acts like the box is present, but it isn't. The right click option of remove current scale doesn't work either as it seems to remove the scale from multiple items.
I have recently gone from two monitors to one (it's a real bummer). Is it possible that the dialogue box is open somewhere I can't find it? I have hit the show desktop button and it isn't there.
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Apr 26, 2012
I am attempting to create an AutoLISP that removes all un-used drawing scales from a file, then adds the standard scales used in civil engineering. This is what I tried using:
;;;Add Engineering Scales
(defun C:AES ()
(command ".CANNOSCALE"
"1" = 1'"
(command "-scalelistedit"
[code]...
Now, I am only a beginner to writing LISP, but I know that my problem is that it is reading the inch marks after the one in the scale name as a enter, but I don't know how to get around this. Also, I don't know how to get it to skip scales that are still in the drawing.
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Sep 10, 2013
My annotative text moves from its original place when I change my viewport scale. I tried to add the PS scale to my original xref, but when I click on the text, I can't change the "no" to "yes" on the options menu where it says annotative.
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Sep 16, 2011
In our office cutlines are made up of polylines. When I use this in an annotative drawing I cannot get the polyline to change with the scale factor. Is there a way to make the polyline annotative?
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Oct 4, 2013
Im trying to keep annotative blocks in the same spot on different scale viewports. The main issue Im having is, when i have a lets say house plan in viewport #1 and have all my blocks in place that I moved copyed from my template. When I open another viewport at a diffrent scale the blocks move. Im useing a large number of blocks for electrical symbols we use at work that I need to be in every viewport so we can copy them and place them where needed on the plan.
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Jun 27, 2011
I'm trying to plot a set of drawings that need to be set at 1:1. Every time I pick Custom or 1:1 and set it to 1mm = 1unit, AutoCAD immediately switches it to whatever 1:1_6 is, leaving me with a bunch of empty space around all my viewports.
I'm fairly new at using paper space, and I've never used a plot scale that have underscores in them, so I don't even know what they're representing.
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May 25, 2011
I'm trying to convert a hand drawn paper plan of our house into Autocad so that I can tweak it. I'm not bad at drawing things in autocad, but how to set it up properly for the file to be printed out in a shop on A0 at the correct scale. Either some info on how to set it up, or a template file that is already setup would be great.
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Mar 15, 2012
Where is the “annotative scale” and “paper text height” properties?
I couldn’t find the “annotative scale” and “paper text height” properties when dealing with “Civil 3D” objects such as points and contours the same way we have it in the regular AutoCAD.
For example, suppose that I need to increase to decrease the “text height” of the point label considering a particular “annotative scale” property, then how this kind of thing might be done in the AutoCAD Civil 3D?
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Apr 5, 2012
Unfortunately, a new project we have does not allow us to use annotative objects, so we are back to switching scale by creating several dimstyles with a varying dimscale (eg. Dim96, for 1/8", Dim48 for 1/4" etc.) Now I have created a button on the tool palette that brings in text and it allows me to set the size of the arrow by matching it to the dimstyle, but the text comes in always at the same size - 9" which is 3/32" for a 1/8" plan. The arrow changes but the text does not. I know I have to change the CANNOSCALE, but I can't seem to figure out a way of making it work so that the user will only need to switch the dimstyle from the pull down up at the top right and then be able to use a tool palette button that will bring in a text with leader with it's arrow head and text height matching the dimstyle scale.
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Jun 26, 2012
I love annotative scaling of objects it is a great feature. I am however having one problem that I'm not sure if I've missed a setting or something. Is there a way to prevent civil 3d from scaling your annotative objects based on the view scale you are looking at? For example if I zoom out (in model space or max viewport) to show my entire drawing and regen, civil 3d scales all my text and blocks to an enomous scale esentially blocking my entire drawing with solid colour. also if I zoom into a small area to do some detail work all my text becomes microscopic and unuseable. This makes adjusting text so it doesn;t overlap other text very difficult if it never appears at the correct size. Is there a way to freeze annotative objects at thier correct scale (for the current viewport scale) so they dont scale simply because you zoom in or out on a drawing?
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Mar 13, 2013
Annotative block moves when annotation scale changed,
The solution for this problem is mentioned in the link below but sounds not to be useful:
[URL]....
I got a block that contains an attribute (attached) and created on layer zero while the current annotation scale is 1:100. As this annotation scale is changed (say to 1:200 or 1:50) this block moves from its original place to another one (as shown in the attached screenshots).
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Dec 6, 2011
I have the below code (from a user here on the forum) which works great for aligning text, mtext and blocks to 2 points. For annotative entities, it respects the rotation angle for mtext and text.
ie I have an mtext object at 1"=20' scale and at 1"=40' scale. I run the command when the current annotative scale is 1"=40'. The object at 40' scale has changed, but the 20' scale is unchanged. This is working as I would like it to.
But for annotative blocks, it gets weirded out. In the above example, the block at 40' will rotate, but so will the attributes at 20' scale. But linework and hatching at 20' scale will be unchanged. it looks really weird. how to get it to play nice with blocks. Ideally, I'd like the block to be at different rotation angles in different annotative scales.
(defun C:R2P (/ ss ang edata); = Rotate objects to align with 2 Points (setq ss (ssget '((0 . "*TEXT,INSERT"))) ang (angle (getpoint "
First alignment point: ") (getpoint "
Second alignment point: ")) ) (repeat (sslength ss) (setq edata (entget (ssname ss 0))) (entmod (subst (cons 50 ang) (assoc 50 edata) edata)) (ssdel (ssname ss 0) ss) ))
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Nov 3, 2013
how the scales and printing works.
first i am working in meters .meters is choosen under the drawing settings tab .i am trying to test print at 1:1 a rectangle with 0.2 meters side that normaly will fit in a A4 sheet since the A4 is 0.21x0.297 METERS .
in the print dialogue i set the 1"mm" = 0.001 "units". the result is an image multiplied by 1000...arent the " units " METERS? METERS is what i use in the drawing so why i get a biger image?
if i set 1"mm"= 1 "unit" and NOT 0.001 i get correct 1:1 print .
what i am missing? c3d wants me to give 1mm=1meter?
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