AutoCAD 2010 :: Annotative Hatches - Different On Layout At Same Scale
Apr 5, 2012
I have this complex section of an architectural project, which is drawn at 1:1 scale (obviously). It has lots of constructive details, however i've made lots of layers and everything is under control.However, as I started to hatch the drawings, i was having big problems at using the same drawing for different scales, because non-annotative hatches also change their size with different scales.
So I began trying annotative, and i did it as i read in several how-tos. I made an hatch in the layout to know the perfect scale for the hatch, then applied that scale in model hatches. Then, in properties, I selected the scales at which that hatch should belong. Until here everything was OK!
However, as the ideal scale for the hatches (ANSI31) was something like 0.0003, here started the problems. The layout has an erratic behavior with similar hatches (I even tried to use match props to be sure different hatches had the same properties). On different viewports, some of the hatches appear as solid, and they plot just like that! As I zoom in and zoom out, the problem changes, as problematic viewports become right and others become wrong.
I tried to change HPmaxlines to 10000000, i tried to change the size of ansi31 in acad.pat, however the problem persists. It seems that the problem disappears when i have increase the hatch scale to, lets say, 0.05, however it's not that scale I want because of the presentation...
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Oct 30, 2012
After drawing in model space(1:1 Scale) I then dimension as needed using Annotative Dimensions, Multileaders and MText using the same 1:1 scale. But when I create the variuos viewports on my layout pages the dimensions aren't scaling to the viewport scale.
This is where it may be partly my fault; When I first started using annotative dimensions etc. a box would pop up asking what scale to use. Because I am dimensioning in model space, rather than always seeing this text box I selected "Do not ask again" check box to always use 1:1 scaling.
These are some of the other settings in place;
ANNOAUTOSCALE = 4
Annotation Visibility = ON
Automatically Add Scales = ON
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Jan 4, 2013
I have a base plan. The text scale is set to 1"=40' I xref the base plan into a strucural bridge plan sheet and scale the base map x 12 so that i can work in architetural scale. How do I get the text to scale correctly in the xref'd base map that has been scaled by 12 for a 1/8" scale?
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Oct 17, 2012
I have a drawing (attached) with the following settings: LTSCALE = 1, MSLTSCALE = 1, PSLTSCALE = 1.For some reason the linetype is not scaling based on the annotative scale. It will update correctly if I change the LTSCALE but for some reason it wants to ignore the MS and PSLTSCALE variables.
As a note, the drawing was converted from a Microstation drawing and the linetype is a converted Microstation linetype.Is there something in the linetype that is doing this.
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Jul 30, 2012
I am rather new to AutoCAD 2010, and have observed issues with Annotative Scale. I have tried to avoid that function like the plague, but now I have some time to learn of it and its power.
I've been tasked with creating/updating Electrical Department symbol blocks. Right now, I am working on lighting fixture blocks, and I have this particularly odd scenario when i'm making the Block Attributes. My new block is for a 2 foot by 4' lighting fixture. When this block is to be inserted in Model Space, the size will always remain constant (2'x4'), but I need the Attributes (one for the Fixture Type, and one to denote the Circuit Number and Switch leg) to change sizes per the plan scale on Paper Space.
How, and in which space, should I construct my light fixture block & attributes? And, which parts of the block or attributes should be Annotative? Also, the light fixture can be either oriented vertically or horizontally. Will I still be able to relocate the attribute using -EATTEDIT or -ATTEDIT?
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Mar 22, 2012
I seem to have lost the ability to add or remove an annotative scale for a single item (piece of text, block etc). I've always picked the annotative scale in the properties box and then hit the box at the right which brought up a small dialogue box where I could add or remove scales for the item that I'd highlighted. When I hit that box now, or the similar box in the right click menu nothing happens. AutoCAD acts like the box is present, but it isn't. The right click option of remove current scale doesn't work either as it seems to remove the scale from multiple items.
I have recently gone from two monitors to one (it's a real bummer). Is it possible that the dialogue box is open somewhere I can't find it? I have hit the show desktop button and it isn't there.
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May 30, 2013
Having some trouble with some annotative hatches. Notably ones with patterns in them? I am testing them out in multiple viewports of various scales and for the most part they work great. But every so often in a particular viewport they either disappear altogether or shrink to a smaller size and bring my AutoCAD to a dead crawl?
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Sep 19, 2012
I am running Autocad arch 2011 (as Autocad 2011) and a co worker is using Autocad electrical 2012 and when he works in a drawing of mine the every annotative scale that is used in the file is attached to every annotative object. Which means I have to go through every object and delete scales that should be be there....all my annotative objects appear in every view port because every annotative object has every scale..
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May 29, 2012
Is there any trick that bring in an annotative block into a drawing at the annotative scale you are working in, not the scale the block was created in?
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Feb 8, 2013
I am having trouble trying to change the View Scale in the the layout tab. Someone before me changed it to be 1:0.808 and now when i print my drawings they are all smaller than what is shown on the screen. how do i go about changing this number so its 1:1?
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Nov 8, 2013
I have a drawing with several layouts, and in one particular layout only, I want the text to be smaller than the annotation scale would dictate (the viewport is 1"=300', but I want the text to display at 1"=50' annotation scale).
I tried selecting the viewport and changing the "annotation scale" property to 1"=50', then the "standard scale" property to 1"=300'.
Strangely, this seems to work for a bunch of MText objects I have in the drawing, but it won't work for an alignment station label group or for a particular linetype...for some reason, those two things insist on having their annotation scale equal to the viewport scale.
I tried messing around with the alignment station label group's style but couldn't figure anything out. As far as the line/linetype, I'm completely at a loss why that one wouldn't change.
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Apr 10, 2013
I would like to find a lisp that changes the scale of something that has an annotative scale and deletes all other scales in the object scale list. Often i have many different scales of existing dimensions or objects. i waste a lot of time opening the annotation object scale dialogue box, selecting add, finding my scale and deleting the old scale.
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Jan 9, 2012
Upon starting up 2012 MEP I was asked if I would like to convert hatches with too small a scale to solid so as to safe virtual memory. I turned this on, and now I'm noticing some runs of piping showing up as solid. I would rather not have this seemingly random solid hatch all over my drawings.
Is there a way to go revert the hatches to their original scale/patterns? I'd selected the temporary option, however whenever I open the file now it shows as shown in the picture.
(see attached image for reference)
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Feb 7, 2013
I have a co-worker who needs to create a block where the attributes scale with the anno scale, but the block container does not. He's creating a tree block and wants the canopy and trunk attributes to scale without scaling the tree symbol.
Making an attribute annotative and applying the scales to the attributes doesn't seem to work if the block itself isn't annotative.
Are we missing something, or is this just not possible?
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Jan 31, 2013
I'm working in a dwg and any hatch pattern displays solid. I've changed the scale to various sizes, and tried multiple different hatches, but they all show solid. This is the first time I'm working in metric scale, but if this is the issue, my measurement system variable is set to 1 and my units are set to metric.
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Jan 9, 2013
I started with AutoCAD 9.I thought that until recently, that I could draw a line from parts of a hatch.
I could draw a line perpendicular to a hatch line.Or, I could draw a line from an intersection of hatch lines.Did I change a setting?Or have I imagined being able to do such?
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Mar 26, 2012
a) can send me geological elements hatching patterns in .PAT format to g.jamalashvili@gmail.com (e.g. hatch for tuffs, basalt, tuff breccia, andesite, dacite, diabase, etc), or
b) Websites where I can dowload them or otherwise buy them quickly...
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May 16, 2011
I am trying to use annotative scale for the first time. What I am trying to use it for is the following:
I have blocks setup for the legend on our drawings. Say if I hatch a footpath in a drawings, I have a legend item that I insert into paperspace that has a sample of that hatch and the text "Existing footpath". Can I set the annotative scale in paperspace so that no matter what the viewport scale the legend item in paperspace will look similar to it.
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Feb 12, 2013
When I click the annotative scale icon at the bottom of screen it shows me the standard options to chose from:
(1/16"= 1'-0", 1/8"= 1'-0", 1/4"+ 1'-0" etc. etc..)
but it is permanently stuck in 1/4"=1-0"...
In other words if I select say 1"=1'-0"...and go to draw a dimension...the dimension is in 1/4"= 1'-0"....model space
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Sep 27, 2011
In Acad 2012 (sp1, w64), it seems that, if a hatch has a scale too big to have something showing into the boundary, it renders as a solid hatch ! (previously, it rendered empty, as expected).
The attached file demonstrates the issue, with "dots" hatch samples at various scales. You can see that, at scale 80, where no point should be visible, it becomes solid !
It's a major annoyance, since I have lots of lisp-based automatic hatching of things, and, while it's not a problem to have an empty hatch whenever the boundary is too small for a given scale, getting a solid hatch instead is a big no-no.
How to get rid of this ?
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Mar 16, 2012
I have successfully created one drawing using annotative dims and text - I have set my text to 1:1 scale, height = 30 in paperspace (although I don't get what this refers to when it automatically says it's 30 in modelspace too) and my viewport is 1:20 scale. It's all good, the dims and text look great, which is what I want at the end of the day, however I got there.
But, when I want to set up another detail at 1:40 scale, I can't for the life of me figure out how to make the same dim and text style appear the same size as it was for the 1:20 detail.
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May 16, 2012
Is there a way of printing transparent hatches maintaining transparency?
It appears not to work in 2012. How about 2013 which I haven't yet installed?
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Nov 19, 2013
I created a associative and annotative hatch for a group of objects. It displays fine and the area measures fine. When I switch the annotative scale in the lower right for the whole drawing, portions of the hatch dissapear from the boundary objects - both visually and from the area in properties, When I switch back to original annotative scale, that area is still no longer there. In essense, parts of the hatch get deleted.
AutoCAD LT 2011
AutoCAD Civil 3D 2012
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Aug 15, 2013
I have a drawing that contains texts that are annotative. But I would like to change the scale of the drawing with the floating model space viewport in Paper Space. I know I can individually right click on the text and Add Current Scale to them but is there a way to do so globally?
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Jul 30, 2012
Im pretty new to annotative text. I was wondering how I can make text show in two viewports at two diffrent scales? Also how to I remove scales from text?
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Mar 1, 2012
SUBJECT: Annotative Scales.
I have a drawing with a 2 viewing ports
Port 1 is at 1/4"= 1'-0"
Port 2 is at 1/2"= 1'-0"
What should my Annotative setting be in model Space?
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Aug 15, 2012
Apparently text will always rotate about the bottom left grip and not the justified grip.
This is a massive issue that makes this great feature virtually worthless.
If the text is going to rotate in multiple viewports you need it to stay in the same place!
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Jul 14, 2011
I have a dynamic block that contains both geometry as well as text. I don't want the geometry to scale up based on the drawing scale but I do want the text to scle according to the drawing scale. I have tried making the text both annotative and non-annotative in the block and get the same result. I can get the text to scale properly if I make the entire block annotative but that also scales the geometry which is not accurate.
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Apr 26, 2012
I am attempting to create an AutoLISP that removes all un-used drawing scales from a file, then adds the standard scales used in civil engineering. This is what I tried using:
;;;Add Engineering Scales
(defun C:AES ()
(command ".CANNOSCALE"
"1" = 1'"
(command "-scalelistedit"
[code]...
Now, I am only a beginner to writing LISP, but I know that my problem is that it is reading the inch marks after the one in the scale name as a enter, but I don't know how to get around this. Also, I don't know how to get it to skip scales that are still in the drawing.
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Sep 10, 2013
My annotative text moves from its original place when I change my viewport scale. I tried to add the PS scale to my original xref, but when I click on the text, I can't change the "no" to "yes" on the options menu where it says annotative.
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Sep 16, 2011
In our office cutlines are made up of polylines. When I use this in an annotative drawing I cannot get the polyline to change with the scale factor. Is there a way to make the polyline annotative?
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