AutoCAD Architecture :: Associative Spaces And Usable Area Boundaries
Oct 18, 2012
We work in space management and deal with associative spaces every day. As a platform we use ACA 2012, with out own Add-on tool (whch simply groups ACA's own tools in one).
We have issues on a daily-basis with the usable boundaries of associative spaces (the green line indicated in the example attachment). Generally when a floorplan is simple, consisting mainly of 90-degree angles wall intersections, everything works fine. However when we work with floorplans consisting of arched, or even more often slanted walls or walls that meet at different angles, the usable boundaries' lines tend to create a "spike" (labled B. on the attachment) which extends outward from the plan, thus creating i.e a 28m2 space out of a 13m2 space (labled A). We use our own calculation standard, however using BOMA or SIS the issue occurs in the same manner, using SIS its even worse.
Generally we solve these issues by changing wall justifications, deleting and re-creating spaces, etc, etc. This can be a very tedious process, one which takes a long time and time is of the essence!
We are aware that by making the spaces non-associative, we can then manually edit the usable boundary, however this is not an option as we handle a great deal of different floorplans each day, and these plans are updated frequently, so we do not want to send out a drawing which has a problem like this because the next person who edits some of the spaces will most likely come across the same problem again.
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Aug 16, 2013
I'm making a program that reads a property file that follows the format:
"key=value" for each line on the text file.
One specific line has the key "file" and the value is some file path that includes a space.file=C:/my folder/my file.txt
Now I can extract what the key and value is for any given line in the file.However, I want to put all of the data into an Associative List so that I will not need to keep opening the file each time I search for information. I've been using the cons function in order to create a dotted list, which is successful. However I have an issue when I add this dotted list to the end of my associative list.
Suppose I have a key and a value already stored inside variables. Below I have two lines of code, first the dotted list portion is printed, and works as expected. The second line adds that dotted list to the associative list:
(princ "Cons: ")(princ (cons key val)) (princ "") ;Prints (file . C:/my folder/my file.txt)(setq assocList (append assocList (cons key val))) ;Error message here.
The error that I receive says "; error: bad list: "C:/my folder/my file.txt"..Here is the change:
(setq assocList (append assocList (list (cons key val))))
Now, the dotted list is inserted properly and looks like this after printing the whole associative list: ((version . 1.0.1) (file . C:my foldermy file.txt))
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Mar 21, 2013
I am wondering if there is a way that you can use the geometry from Architecture in Inventor other than just a visual concept. I am trying to create buildings in Architecture then import them into Inventor. I have tried the "Sync Inventor" command but there is no usable geometry when it is imported into Inventor. I have used Navisworks to show the building layouts but I am needing to be able to take measurements and possibly constrain to walls or other solid objects.
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Aug 30, 2012
When I was using AutoCad 2010 I could HATCH within a cube, circle or within any object that was joined together even if it had text in it would HATCH within the boundaries of the area to be hatched. Now that I use AutoCad 2013 this option does not work as if there is text in the object only a partial area will become hatched. This means I have to MOVE the cube or whatever shape to a place where there is no text inside it, HATCH and then move it back to where I wanted it in the first place.
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Mar 20, 2012
My Computer just recently jusst got switched to a new server...
Somethings are just acting weird now, like my hatching...
All my old hatches that were associative are acting like one seltions like if i hatch a polyline now when i go to select that hatch it now selects the polyline as well.
This never happened before abd the only way to edit it now is to either make it in the properties not associative then i lose my boundary or just to explode it then i a ihave an exploded hatch...before i made it assoc. and i could just edit or select the hatch only i think its an option setting...
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Jan 17, 2013
My application has suddenly started to link the hatch pattern to the area boundaries.
The objects remain on their own layers, but I am not able to delete the hatch pattern without deleting the boundaries.
I cannot edit the hatch pattern either as the application no longer recognises the hatch pattern.
Have i changed a setting unwittingly?
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Feb 18, 2011
I have found the theme legends on the documentation tool palette, but I was wondering how the themes are assigned to the individual spaces? I would have expected additional spaces to be loaded into the file at the time the legend was brought in.
Is the active connection between the legend and the individuals spaces? or is the legend only a static representation?
Will i need to create these space types or are they hidden within the Design Center or a catalog?
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May 24, 2011
Is it possible to assign furniture and other objects to specific spaces similar to the assigning of doors and windows?
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Jun 20, 2011
When the spaces are auto created, is there a way they would include doors? I mean, doors are also floor area and they should be also scheduled/added to the space.
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May 26, 2011
Is there a trick to get spaces to be on the same level as the walls? On my 2nd floor plan located at 12'-8", the spaces are generating at the ground floor level.
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Oct 15, 2012
Having some very strange issues with area boundaries used in groups.
I have tested it in RAC 2011, 2012 and 2013 and they all seem to be doing similar things.
grouping them and pasting them is fine - even between levels and even schemes. when i edit them items are excluded on sketch close and even disappear from one scheme to only appear in the scheme that i edited them in. the area still remains in both but only boundaries in one scheme.
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Feb 7, 2012
I have questions about exporting data for drawings.We make use of spaces to create a list with room numbers, room use and the area.
we also create plans with office furniture.we have blocks with attributes to extract data like workstation numbers, department, roomnumbers etc.for the info from the spaces we use export property data to create an database file.for the export of the attributes we use dataextraction to crete an .xls file
Is there a way to combine the work so that we can export the attribute data with the export property data?Is there a way to link the blocks (who are within a closed pline) to the pline (space)? Can it be done with lisp or VBA?
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Apr 11, 2012
I have created custom spaces and I have been able to build room with doors and then add a door tag that updates automatically with the info of the door. But for some reason, I am unable to assign the door to the space. I am not using project and I think that may be my problem. I feel as though I am almost there, but I can't assign the door to the space so that when I add a door tag it recognizes that the door is in a wall in a space and then gives me those numbers. If I click on the tag, I am able to anchor it to the space and then the room number appears in the tag, but I was hopnig to have it do it automatically. I have the door squiggle inside the space but I don't know how to attach it and also the space seems to have a number project based assigned to it, but that is not what I want since the drawing is not project based.
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Mar 14, 2012
Any way to add all the areas of a space style to get a total SF#? Is there a way to add this information to a display theme style legend?(preffered) Is there a way to get this information in to a schedule? (less desirable)
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Sep 30, 2013
I have a file with several Space Styles. As I progress on the drawings I would like to modify some of the display properties, primarily color of the fill. I would think I could set the overall appearance of each Space Style in one location and then adjust elements of various display representations. In my case have a red hatch for a space style but in one display rep it would be solid and in another it would be a diagonal hatch.
As I see it, if I wish to modify the color I have to go into each display rep and adjust the color of the base hatch and click on the Style Override check box. It seems like duplicative work. Is there another method of setting the color of each Space Style so that it shows the same in all display reps?
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Mar 4, 2013
Is there a way to set the drawing view to be associative or non-associative by default in my .idw template?
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Dec 13, 2012
I've looked at adding spaces to a plan that is simply lines and arcs... no intellegent objects.
It could get somewhat messy doing Generate Spaces... if the doors and swings are frozen the bounding objects don't get found... but if the doors and swings are on... the spaces go in fairly well... but then the door swing is used as a boundardy.
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Dec 13, 2013
I am using some custom property set definitions to add information to spaces. However as I insert spaces I find that I have to go to the extra step to add the property set to the object using the Extended Data tab in the Properties Palette.
It is not a huge deal but sometimes it is forgotten and schedules are not reporting properly, or the display theme is not correct. Although there are tools to quickly add them I would like to know if there is an automatic way to add them while creating the spaces/zones.
On a related note. There is a property set definition that is in each file by default called RoomFinishObjects. Is there a way to purge this? I don't want to attach finishes to my objects. But it seems to be embedded in the file.
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Oct 9, 2013
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Jan 27, 2011
I want to create a space style similar to BOMA with editable boundaries to use for LEED Daylighting calculations. I figured out how to make a new property set definitions, new space style, etc., but I can't get the boundaries to read as the LEED boundaries. I want the Base area to remain as is, but I want NET to be Daylit, Useable to be Sidelit, and Gross to be Toplit.
I could do the workaround and just use the OOTB BOMA style, but then others editing will have to constantly translate which means what as we edit the drawings. When you look at the display display Properties for the space style, the boundaries and hatches read as net, useable, etc. I can't figure out where to redefine those and when you right click the space and Edit Boundary, I need to be able to display the correct properties, not the BOMA properties.
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Aug 20, 2009
Is there a way to set associative dimensions to be non-associative without exploding them?
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Is there a global or per-object way to change this association? Exploding is not an option.
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May 5, 2013
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We have been having a problem with our leaders for the last few weeks. We are running Acad2009LT and Acad2009 full versions. Our leaders are becoming non-associative. I made a drawing yesterday and was the only one editing the drawing. I made some leaders with text. I know they were working fine because I had to move some text and the leaders went with it. This morning when I opened the drawing. Some, not all, of the leaders that I made yesterday have become non-associative. I made some new leaders and they are working properly. Other people in the office have been having the same issue. Nothing has changed on our systems. We have been using the same program since 2009.
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Mar 4, 2011
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Any routine or tool that simplifies calculating and labeling floor areas?
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Oct 20, 2013
Is subtotaling still impossible with ACA 2014?
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Roughly:
King 4 2000sf
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My attached schedule gives a row for each space, except that it groups spaces of exact same areas. I want a single row for each room type.
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