AutoCad :: Attributed Text Shifting
Apr 3, 2012
I am currently using AutoCAD 2011 but there is a couple in our office using 2012. When they open a drawing with attributed text it shifts the text, usually to the right. The text height stays the same as well as the vertical position. It appears the text letter spacing (kerning I think it is called) is adjusted to be closer and it shifts to the right. If I click on the text and then click on the grip for the text twice it puts it back to what it is suppose to be or was. This doesn't happen in any logical order it is random through out the drawings, making it harder to find and fix them all. I can save the file close it, re-open it and the text shift happens again, randomly.
We have only noticed this on drawings that have been opened with 2012. Is that a problem with 2012? Is there a fix for it? I found while GTS that someone clicked on the annotate>annotation scaling>sync scale positions so I tried that and it didn't adjust the text/attributes back to where they are suppose to be/where. The shift happens as stated while re-opening a drawing, also when doing a regen, I also noticed it happening while doing a simple copy/paste of a part that isn't shifting. I hope this makes sense as to what is happening, I would post a drawing but they REALLY frown on us "sharing" our drawings.
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Aug 12, 2013
I'm using 2013 with all the latest updates. This is what we're seeing, on exporting drawings to dwg, nearly all title block text is shifted from it's constrained position.
Case in point. There are like 10 lines for customer information. One line will look like the following:
JOBSITE: MIAMI, FL
In that example, JOBSITE is a single text object with bottom left justification. MIAMI, FL is a single text object as well that is a linked custom field with bottom left justification.
Both of these are constrained to construction lines in the title block. I've locked the text's insertion point to the intersection of lines, and to a point. In inventor, it works great. In editing the title block these things do not budge at all. They're locked up tight.
Problem is when exporting to autocad, the JOBSITE text will shift down and the MIAMI, FL text will shift up.
I thought maybe the constraints were off, but not that I can see. I removed all constraints and floated them and the same thing happened. Seems to happen no matter what we do. I turned the construction lines visible to see if they had issues and they hold their place fine. The text still shifts. The only text that seems to hold its spot are the pieces of text that are top middle justified.
There is ONE WAY to get the text to hold it's place. Export the file to a 2013 Inventor DWG file. That holds the text in the correct place. However, we need these files in normal 2010 format for a client. Saving these from autocad 2013 to 2010 works fine. However, it's more than 2x the work.
I've seen a couple old posts talking about multiple text types/sizes in one object but this isn't the case, every bit of text in the title block is a separate entity and a singular height and style.
And on a related issue, it's be nice if Inventor knew that things like commas and slashes and whatnot are permitted to go below the bottom justification lines and not force all the text up but that's a separate issue.
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Sep 6, 2013
issue regarding attributed text updating when reinserting a DB. I have text override in a dimension, inserted a field into the text override but whenever I reinsert the block and change the values, the text does not update.
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Jan 17, 2012
I have a dynamic block with attributed text that I want to remain horizontal right reading even when the block is rotated. I have set up the parameters and the actions how I was taught and even revisited one of AU's downloadable lessons to try to get it correct. my settings are the same as in the lesson. I have the rotate parameter / action set to only the geometry and did not select the attributed text. I also have the attribute locked. Nothing I do gets the text to rotate with the block and stay horizontal and right reading. It will either rotate the text along with the block or just leave the text stationary. I have tried adding a point parameter to the text but that doesn't seem to work either. I am using Base ACAD 2010 I have also attached the block for troubleshooting.
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Oct 25, 2013
Is there a way to change the text styles, lets say from "Standard" to "Romans", all at once within an attributed block, or do you have to update each tag attribute individually?
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Dec 21, 2011
This is the command line responce I get when i attempt to enter text. All teh numeric expressions of all my dimensions have been replaced with a backslash. Along with all text including infomation on the attributed title block.
I have exhausted my options for figuring it out, do I need to reload the program? is there a restore default option? ( I haven't found one yet) I am running 2011 LT
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May 1, 2012
I am creating a border and making it attributed. I have the drawing number showing up in the title block and in the opposite corner of the page. I want to link the two somehow so that when one is edited the other automatically changes to match. Is this possible to do?
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Oct 2, 2013
Is is possible to have an attributed block in a marker style or note style? I would like to have editable text upon insertion of the marker or text? I have tried unsuccessfully to get it to work. Does the fact that C3D displays the marker and note as objects prevent it from being editable? Is there a workaround?
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Dec 21, 2012
I am trying to speed up some basic drafting of text revisions. In the P (plumbing) we call out the fixture units for a water pipe, along with the fixture units, the pipe size changes.
Is there any way to add numbers in an attributed block? (I have a lisp that works on text & mtext, but not attributes)
1.1. Example: Like if you have a block with two attributed text fields, the 1st field {x} is a number (fixture unit), and the 2nd field {y} is a number (pipe size). I would want it to only add the 1st text fields. [If possible then change the 2nd text field according to a changeable chart. (see #2)]
1.1.1. This is how the block looks like: x (y")
1.1.1.1. x could be any number from 0.5 – 10,000 (only using 1 decimal place, and only as needed)
1.1.1.2. y could be any number from the following list: ½, ¾, 1, 1¼, 1½, 2, 2½, 3, 3½, 4, 5, 6
Is there a way like in excel that you can set up a formula that will give a numerical result depending on other input? Like pipe size that change depending on the number of fixtures. There would need to be two different formula, one for hot and one for cold values (The value would be set at the beginning of the job; typically these values would not change later in the job). This could be separate text or if possible using the attributed block as described in #1.
2.1. Example: Like if you have a block with two attributed text fields, the 1st field {x} is a number (fixture unit), and the 2nd field {y} is a number (pipe size). I would want it to change the 2nd text fields according to the value in the 1st text field. If the value in {x} is 0.5 – 1.0, it would result in ½; 1.5 – 7.0 = ¾; 7.5 - 17 = 1; 17.5 – 36 = 1¼; ect.
2.2. In excel it would be =IF(x)<1,"1/2",IF(x)<7,"3/4”,IF(x)<17,"1",…{all #’s in between} …IF(x)>5000,"6")))))
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Sep 27, 2013
A co-worker has been having issues with the ucs icon location. In a front view of his model the UCS icon appears where expected. when shifted to a top view the icon shifts over to the right from the location it was at in the front view? What is causing it?
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Apr 5, 2013
I edit my drawings in Illustrator CS5. When printing from dwg into pdf - it shifts some of the lines, explodes some of the solid lines and shifts them as well. So the whole drawing looks like scribbles. In Cad window it looks fine, I clean it, recovered it, purged it...
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Aug 11, 2011
I am using ACA 2009 and am experiencing something new with attributed blocks. When I insert the block, a copy of the block is placed at what seems to be an arbitrary distance away. As I fill in the boxes for each attribute, it appears in the image away from the insertion point. After I am done, the completed block appears filled out where it was inserted. I have never seen this before. Is there a setting affecting this?
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Aug 5, 2011
Basically I have a rectangle and want to change the dimensions of it. There are a couple of attributed definitions that I want to stretch the and change it length but I alsowant the attributed definitions to move with the right hand side of the rectangle and the stay a constant distance from the right hand side. Unfortunately when I use the stretch action it filters out the attributed from the object that I can stretch, any way to include these AD’s with the stretch action
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Apr 12, 2012
I am having an issue with my designs not lining up with my background aerial images when I zoom in and out in paper space.
Everything remains lined up in model space, it is just paper space where I have the issues.
This is only an issue when I use the dview command and have twisted my drawings.
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Sep 5, 2007
i have an area we are running water lines in and are using the aerial as the survey kind of - so it is important that it not shift - but the viewport needs to be rotated
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Mar 24, 2011
I am in the process of converting some static blocks to dynamic blocks. My procedure has been:
1) cut the drawing out of model space.
2) erase all
3) purge all
4) open the block editor and paste drawing in
5) set the base point to 0,0
But when I insert the block in another drawing the base point shifts. I have included the block (_beam.dwg) and the block inserted (dwg.dwg)
Why? I must be missing a setting, property or something.
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Dec 2, 2012
Problem: ECW image shifting within paperspace layout. Problem only with viewports which have been twisted.
Computer:
Windows 7 64bit
32gig ram
Quadro 2000 (on the supported list)
Using Civil3d 2012
Have tried recovering... moving the geometry is not an option. Have also tried toggling "Projection" on and off as suggested in other threads
This seems to have been a long standing issue and its surprising there yet seems to be a fix. Have made the same post in an AutoCAD 2011 as a reply to a board on the same issue.
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Nov 15, 2011
I have recently been forced more to use customer supplied drawings in inventor that contain attributed AutoCAD blocks, I have been looking for a way to automate filling out these and add some consistency since they sometime ask for the same thing to be updated in several places. I have been using the "dwgblk.GetPromptTextValues(sTags, sAttr)" to get the values of these attributes but I don't know how to update the value from a property back into the attribute.
I have even thought about doing this in iLogic so that it would be easy to change from customer to customer.
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Dec 29, 2011
what is the easiest wqy to extract information from an attrbuted block into a spreadsheet (excel)?
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Jan 24, 2013
How do you get a point marker that uses a block with attributes to show the attributed text?
We are using tree symbols that have the size of the tree as an attribute, but when the points that use that block come in...the block shows up w/out any attributed text. Tried to edit the "block" or point marker with attedit command, but C3D tells me it is not a block. Understand that it is a "marker" for the point. But, what is stopping the text size of tree from showing up?
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Nov 16, 2012
I would like to extract a furniture schedule by using attributed blocks. I would like attributes like Item #, Color, Size, Location, Description, Manufacturer, etc…. The problem with the data extraction system that I am having is that in order for a chair with a tag to be considered the same chair and be counted correctly all the block attributes have to be exactly the same/ match.
For example, if I have the same chair (CH-01) but the location of the chair changes, cad treats it as 2 different chairs.
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Jun 11, 2013
Is it possible to make a pull down inside of a attributed block?
For example: if I a have engineering code section of a title block and I want to be able to choose from a list of codes:
ASME A17.1-2004
ASME A17.1-2007
ASME A17.1-2010
ASME A17.1-2012
Can I set up the block to let me do that?
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Apr 21, 2011
1) Problem about viewports :
I am using 2011, I have created 17 viewports in one paper space, there are 2 viewports not showing anything. I deleted 2 viewports with content, then the 2 viewports which were not showing is now showing images.
I started a new drawing, drew something very simple for testing, I could create 63 viewports the 64th is not showing.
I would like to ask what it is to control/affect the number of viewports I can create in one paper space.
2) To Edit an Attributed Block
When double click an attributed block (command = eattedit), the dialog box "Enhanced Attribute Editor" disappeared !
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Apr 25, 2013
When printing to our Xerox work center 35, I choose 11x17, extents, fit to paper, landscape. The preview shows the entire template page just as i want it. The printout has the left side of template shifted over to the right approx 5.5 inches. It is as if i changed the plot offset 5.5 inches.
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Nov 11, 2013
I have the drawing I'm working on, who's scale is set to "unitless". I'm attempting to insert a series of attributed blocks (containing titleblock information) into the paperspace of my drawing. The attributed block is also set to unitless.
Two of these blocks require editing to suite the drawing, the other two are to be edited at a later date by a third party.
Everything HAD been working fine, however, it appears the wheels have fallen off ~ I'm now experiencing a periodic error where, I insert a block to the 0,0 at a scale of 1 (as per procedure) but the block comes in at a fraction of the correct scale. I have to scale the block up by 25.4. (The imperial / metric conversion.) (Note, I'm working in Metric)
Even stranger - its not happening on all blocks. Just the two that have to be edited "in house".
I've checked measureinit within the blocks and it is set to metric. I'm limited in my ability to purge / audit the drawings as they don't want template information deleted from the drawing - but I don't know what other system variables i should be looking at.
I'm using CivilCad 2012 with Windows 7,
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May 3, 2013
Editing attributed blocks causes them to disappear from the screen. Edits include changing attribute values, moving attributes, or moving the entire block. The block is not gone, so saving and re-opening the drawing will display it again, but this is a terrible workaround when moving and editing many blocks in a large drawing.
We do not use annotative or dynamic blocks, so these are just good old-fashioned attributed blocks.This behaviour is being seen on both Windows 7 and older Windows XP systems with various hardware specs, and it is only in the 2013 product. We still have some stations running Map 2012 that do not experience this issue even when working in the same drawings.
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Jun 26, 2012
We want to use our AutoCAD company standard templates within Inventor. I’ve followed the procedures to accomplish this under the heading:
Create a .dwg template in Autodesk Inventor from an AutoCAD .dwg template
This works without any problems. Inventor is able to recognize the size of our template border (20.75” x 33”) and correctly selects a sheet format of 24” x 36”. The template border is centered on the 24” x 36” sheet just as we would like it (see attached).
The template is used to create a new Inventor .dwg, and base views are placed and annotated. No problems, everything looks good. The new drawing is saved and Vaulted. However, at some point Inventor "shifts" the location of the template on the 24” x 36” sheet format (see attached). This action is unpredictable. The drawing might be checked-out and checked-in several times before the “shift” happens. When it does we have to re-locate the views and other text annotation to suit the new title block & border location.
How can we lock the position of the template border & title block? (Should be noted that we need to keep our template positioned such that the bottom left corner is at 0,0,0 when it is opened in AutoCAD.)
Inventor RS 2011
AutoCAD Mechanical 2011
ASD 2013
Vault Collaboration 2011
Windows 7 Pro
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Sep 13, 2013
I'd like to set up a blockwith different attributes like Roomname, Floor, Area,...
Therefore I'd like to link a polyline of the drawing with the block and it shows me its area. I know how it works with fields, but not how to connect it when the field is within a block.
Is there a LISP for that?
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Dec 27, 2011
I have been working on an AutoLISP routine which is intended to:
1) collect input from the user via a DCl dialog box
a) Create a List of the non-null "GROUP_CODE..." variable values collected from the dialog's settings
b) Create a List of the "ESN***#_Part" variable values collected from the dialog's settings (does the List elements' order need to be reversed after collecting them?)
2) Prompt the user to select an insertion point
3) Insert a Block named "ESN-CONTROL-WIRED" which has multiple attributes
a) Apply the first List element collected at step 1.a above to the attribute tag "INPUT_ADD" in the block
b) Apply the first List element collected at step 1.b above to the Attribute Tag "PART_NUMBER" in the block
4) Insert a second instance of the Block named "ESN-CONTROL-WIRED" below the first instance
a) Apply the second List element collected at step 1.a above to the attribute tag "INPUT_ADD" in the block
b) Apply the second List element collected at step 1.b above to the Attribute Tag "PART_NUMBER" in the block etc. .... keep inserting the block "ESN-CONTROL-WIRED" below the previous on until all the input from the dialog has been displayed in the attributes.
Notes:
The Dialog's pop-up lists are populated from external .TXT files which reside on our network (or alternate local C: drive folder if no network drive is found)
Inside the file "ESN_SENSORS_NUMBER.LSP", it is the function "ESN_APPLY_TAG" which I am struggling with how to write...
find inside the .ZIP file:
- (2) example screenshot .BMPs showing dialog box settings and what the resulting output in AutoCAD should look like
- (1) ESN_SENSORS_NUMBER.LSP
- (1) ESN_SENSORS_NUMBER.DCL
- (1) ESN_SENSORS_NUMBER.DWG with a sample output - and the definition of the block ESN-CONTROL-WIRED
- (1) ESN-OCC.txt which populates the PopUp List Boxes
- (1) ESN-DAYLT.txt which populates the PopUp List Boxes
- (1) ESN-IR.txt which populates the PopUp List Boxes
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Aug 9, 2013
I am reasonably experienced in coding in VBA but cannot find any references as to how to achieve the above within VBA so am now turning to LISP to see if I can achieve it in that language.
Basically I want to be able to create multiple instances of an attributed block using an external source, e.g. a spreadsheet to provide data for the attributes.
I'm not even sure if this is possible.
I can find lots of references for extracting attribute date to a spreadsheet but I want to go the other way!
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Jul 26, 2012
I'm using Photoshop 6, ancient.One job I use it for is to edit .png files that were created in X-Plane's (flight simulator) "Plane Maker" tool. When I open the .png file in Photoshop, the colors invariably look faded when compared with the original. If I edit the file and save it, I end up with colors that are not anything like the original.
Below are examples. Notice the first, a screen grab from Plane Maker, has deeper colors than the second, a screen grab from Photoshop.Are there any settings that can be made in Photoshop to avoid this color shift? If not, I suppose I will just have to fiddle with the contrast and brightness settings.
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