AutoCAD Inventor :: IAssemblies In Vault
Sep 3, 2008
We have a product line that relies heavily on iAssemblies. The main assembly and several layers of subassemblies are all iAssemblies. All the children that needed to be generated so far were added to the vault.
If I activate a different member in the main assembly factory, Inventor wants to update some of the various children. For some reason, vault won't prompt me to check out the children. I get a variety of errors, unless I manually check out the children.
There are at least 20 iAssemblies involved at different levels of this thing, not to mention all the iParts thrown in as well.
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Sep 2, 2011
Is there any good documentation/workflows/suggestions,etc.. about using and implementing Vault with iparts/iassemblies?
We are finally going to move to using Vault (finally got a drafter to do the "dirty work") and I keep seeing/hearing horror stories/issues about using Vault with iparts/iassemblies.
Typically all of my top level products that we sell are iassemblies (we always each make products in 3 different flavors/3 different voltages). Each of those iassemblies includes at least 1 sub that is also an iassembly. Each of those sub-iassemblies contains at least 1 ipart.
I'm just can't find enough information about the proper way to handle/check in/migrate/manage,etc... this stuff when we move to Vault. But I do find lots of posts about how Vault can't handle iparts/iassemblies correctly but I assume thats just improper setup/workflows.
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Sep 28, 2012
With iAssemblies is it possible to somehow also generate a dwg from it as well? Or would you have to use copy design?
So... depending on the configuration, I would need a main assembly drawing, and a few detail dwgs.
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Oct 23, 2013
I have a large library of standard parts and assemblies that I will be migrating from Inventor 2009 to Inventor 2013
Residing in this library are iparts and iassemblies. Both the factory and the members.
Question is how to migrate these iparts and iassemblies,.
option 1 migrate the factory first THEN the members
option 2 migrate the members then the factory (pretty sure this will not work)
option 3 migrate both factory and members at the same time
option 4 migrate the factory and generate new members (not my favorite option)
option 5 ?????
I should add that I intend to use task scheduler to migrate the files
Inventor 2010
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Apr 13, 2012
I am finding it difficult to find good through examples of how to use iLogic with iParts and iAssemblies. I have been through several of tutorials, but can't seem to find examples for what I need. Here is a link to a video to give you a bit of an idea of what I am trying to do. How/when and what snippets to use in order to get the iParts and iAssemblies to function properly.
See Video : [URL].....
First video went to long here is the rest.. [URL].......
One thing I think I mentioned in the last video, but not sure I explained it well, is that instead of having the main file name show up in the browser..the part name shows up. When I go to change parts using a form I created it keeps telling me it can't find the current part.
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Oct 10, 2012
With the iAssembly I created I now have a message when I open the drawing informing me that i need to regenerate the factory. This terminology is new to me and I have not been able to accomplish this task. I have opened the assembly, selected manage, and updated the assembly with each of the iAssemblies active.
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Mar 20, 2012
We are currently still using Inventor2010. I realize that we are using a later version (trying to get boss to allow us to upgrade). I was wondering if that is where our issues stem from. At times when we create iAssemblies we have issues in which objects disappear and/or inventor crashes whenever we switch the tree to a different part number. If we try to place a sub-assembly file into an assembly file some parts seem to disappear. As a work around we have tried to place all components separately (omitting the sub-assembly file), and the file will still crash or objects disappear. Some of our files get a little large, but aren't really to complex. We have been having issues with this one file in particular and it has been redone several times by different users, on different work stations.
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Apr 18, 2013
It has to do with iparts and iassemblies and “save copy as”. My concern is that during the concept stage an engineer may be working on a design and will create an ipart, as many of our designs have multiple versions. They now want to keep a copy of that ipart, and try something new so they “save copy as” and create a new file. The new ipart members all have the name reference to the first design. Does renaming those members redirect the path to the new ipart, or should we avoid designing like this all together?
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Apr 6, 2011
So I've got an iAssembly and I made a drawing and I want to show all the parts. I have read in other threads that it will not let you show a Parts Only list from an iAssembly. Why do iAssemblies not let you do this? Seems like a bit of an oversight to me but I'm sure there's some technical reason.
IV2012
Windows XP SP3 32-bit
Intel Core 2 Duo 6400 @ 2.13 GHz
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Dec 17, 2013
I have made an iAssembly with a main body and flanges attached to the body.
Assembly feature holes have been created act on the main body, and these holes are relative to the position of the flange.
When I change the factory member - the position of the flange changes, but the holes stay in the last location and so the model is wrong.
The only way to overcome this error, is if I go to the Manage tab and manually select 'Rebuild All'.
I need this to work automatically as drawings are generated wrong when changing model state.
My intention is that this will be used in an iLogic routine, linked to an external sales package.
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Feb 3, 2012
Nesting phantom iAssemblies within another iAssembly? We are having a problem with the BOM not generating the correct multi-item parts lists. Even though the individual iAssemblies act correctly when viewing there individual BOMs, when these parts are nested inside another iAssembly and switched (Table Replace) between individual items, the BOM shows all dash numbers as the current active one.
Any unresolved issues within iAssemblies and the BOM?
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Nov 30, 2012
I have made a family of weldments. I am having trouble controlling the visibility of the weld symbols when I place one of these members. On some members the welds are shown and on others they are not. I know that I can turn off all the welds (View>Object Visibility> Weld Symbols) but there are other weld symbols in the assembly that I need/want to leave visible. In the image below all three weldments have the same welds, but the weld symbol of only the one is shown when I place it in an iam.
In each member of the iassembly, I have unchecked the visibility under the Welds node, but some are still visible when i place them, so that must not be controlling it. Sure would be good if visibility of welds were controlled by view representation.
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nVidia GTS 250 -1GB (Driver 301.42)
INV Pro R2013, SP1.1
Vault Basic 2013
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Mar 21, 2012
I am venturing into a new area with my iLogic coding. Looking for some good examples or How-To of how to use iLogic with iParts and iAssemblies.
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Jan 30, 2013
I have created an iAssembly which contains 4 assembly variations. I now want to create an assembly drawing for these variations.
In this case all my assembly variations will have the same assembly part number as essentially they are all the same assembly except for a few "change over parts".
I intend to have one drawing with multiple sheets. Each sheet will have one variation of the assembly on it with a BOM for that specific variation. The problem I am having though is that the drawing BOM for each variation are linked and as a result each drawing has an inconsistant item numbering (for someone in the workshop who doesnt understand the CAD package and iAssemblies - They ask the question: Why are you skipping item numbers in the BOM's)
Is there any way I can get each BOM to show the item numbers sequentially? I tried editing the drawing BOM item number but the problem is that method propogates the item number changes to all the other BOM's as well.... (It is also tedious AND in my opinion it is generally bad practice to edit the BOM at the drawing level)
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Apr 10, 2012
Using Inventor 2012. I have created a parts list in my .idw that is tied to a .iam Assembly file. In the .iam file I have two instances of the assembly, where one hides certain parts, the other hides others. I can manually tell the parts list which instance I want it to read (see attached image), however, is there a way to have it update automatically? I.e. when I go in to my .iam file and activate one or the other, save the file, then the parts list will auto update itself to include the correct items? Everything else from part names to iProperties auto update in the list, so I'm curious if it can read the correct assembly instance.
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Nov 16, 2011
See attached.
I no longer have the option to edit iparts or iassemblies via speadsheet (excel). I'm using Excel 2007. (INV 2012 Sp1)
Is excel functionality part of an addin that I might have turned off accidentally?
I believe it was working in 2012 but haven't really noticed it not working till after Sp1 install till now..
Running 2014 Product Design Suite Ultimate
Windows 7 64 bit
90G OCZ SATA 3 SSD
Core I7 920 processor, ATI HD6970 graphics card, 12G Corsair RAM
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Nov 18, 2011
We are trying to get task scheduler to automatically download certain files from the Vault. Templates and Styles. The templates work great, but there is no way to specify any filetypes other than Inventor filetypes. Am I missing something? Is there a way to specify non-inventor filetypes?
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Mar 11, 2010
When I get latest versions of files from Vault Explorer and then open them in Inventor, the vault status of the files in the Inventor browser shows a triangle with an exclaimation mark inside of it. When I move my mouse over the status icon, it says "vault not open". There is no response when I try to log into the Vault within Inventor.
I upgraded from 2009 to 2010 Inventor and Vault two weeks ago. Everything worked fine until today. Vault Explorer seems to be working fine. The ADMS console seems to also be working fine. I can do all the routine tasks in both programs. The problem is only in Inventor.
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Dec 13, 2011
I am using the autodesk suit 2011. The problem I am having is when I copied a block from autocad using the copy command, then used the paste command in an inventor .dwg and it inserted as an autoCAD block. When I check the finished drawing into vault the autocad block does not show up and will not print.
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Aug 17, 2012
We have a user that has been experiencing problems when checking files into vault. The problem occurs when he copies a design (the drawing and part file) in vault then checks out the files to make changes, saves it and checks it back in, Inventor doesn't check in the changes. The preview window (i.e.. dwf that's generated on check in) is correct however the thumbnail is wrong and when you open the latest version none of the changes have been made.
This is taking up a lot of time because he has to make the changes twice and also has to be constantly looking back in vault to files he has just checked in to make sure they are correct.
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Oct 26, 2011
We are a mid sized company the builds our parts from raw materials. Steel Coils, Steel tubing, Steel plate, etc.
We are have been migrating from MDT to Inventor over the last few years. We are now trying to implement Vault and integrate that data into our ERP system. We would like to model a part and assembly and check that into Vault then pass the BOM into our ERP system.
It all sounds good up until I looked at how our part files were structured. There is not BOM in an ipt that I have found phantom or referential. Here is my problem
It takes 1 lb of a .0625" thich steel sheet that is 6.5" wide. We stamp our product in a 200 ton press producing a finish componet.Problem 1- Part1.ipt (model of my stamping) does not have a lower level it is a component in Inventor there is no BOM that I have found.Problem 2 - Part2.iam uses part1ipt but we punch a hole in it and push material outward to create a lip so we can lap weld the next part.When I try to extrude this feature I can only cut the part I cannot add material or deform it in any way.Problem 3 - We also manufacture bent tubes. We consume 1.5 ft of part C to make part D. I cannot insert 1.5ft of a part that is 20ft long as we buy it. then we bend it. I cannot insert a 1.5ft part into an assembly and then bend it.
Major problem - even though I can change the dwg file or idw file to add a parts list Vault does not put this information in the Item master BOM.
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Nov 8, 2011
I have opened Vault for the first time and I don't know how to access it, it wants a username/password/server/database. I am one of two people in the company how use inventor etc so there is no existing server/database within my company so I assume i have to set one up?
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Apr 11, 2013
I'm using the free Vault that doesn't have a batch print option so I've been writing some code that does the trick.
The code lists open drawings, assemblies and parts, and depending onwhich is selected, displays a list of all the drawings associated with the file and it's sub-components.
Everything is good except that when the list of drawings is populated I am only able to search through the working folder for drawings. This means that if the drawing has been modified by another, or the drawing has not been opened on the local computer, it will not print (or print the old version).
Is there a way to pull the latest files from vault into the working folder automatically? Currently the only way this is possible is by selecting "Get/Checkout" in vault and downloading the files.
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Apr 9, 2012
A customer has a problem with the add-in of Vault in Inventor. Log In and Log Out options are lost as shown in the picture. The machine already formatted and installed applications again but the problem continues.
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Aug 29, 2012
I am making a copy design of a big file, two things I need to change manually which takes lots of time:
I need to change the status of files from Reuse to Copy, also I need to change the paths to the right ones as the paths that kick in by default when I change the main directory on the top are not right.
Is there a quick way of changing status of all the files to Copy, kinda shift and highlight or the way Vault renames files with Replace option? With big assemblies connected with 10 drawing files doing it all by hand.
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Dec 10, 2013
I started using inventor when he started the job. I have been using Inventor for about 3 years now. My question is that I have always practiced good file management at every level of a project from single parts to large assemblies; however at this new job the file management is horrible, in the last 3 years the company has been through 13 different drafters, thus each drafter was saving files in different location and names making finding parts and assemblies a nightmare.
The problem I am having is that the lead designer is insisting that we implement vault, and that it will solve our problems, However I feel that we needed to develop a universal file and naming convention first, get our file hierarchy in order before we try and implement vault. There will only be 2 of us accessing the cad files and I don't think that vault would even be a good fit for our work flow.
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Nov 23, 2011
We are trying to migrate our 2010 and earlier inventor files that exists in our vault 2012 professional fully replicated environment to The latest inventor release.
We are trying to utilize the task scheduler. but when attempting to use the "Migrate Files from Vault" and select the option to add folders. we receive several pop ups, one after another. The header states "folder" and in the message box is simply "1000" then an "ok" button.
After clicking ok a half dozen times the dialog finally comes up to select the folder, but the entire vault is not available in the selection window. I have tried this on several machines and 2 different databases. Same result.
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Dec 25, 2013
I'd like to get the Vault file Id from an inventor document on the local workspace in order to be sure that it has been checked in (I want to be sure that all the files on the local disk have been checked in).
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Oct 2, 2013
I search for a file in Vault 2014 and find it needs refreshing i.e. the double red arrows icon in "Vault Status" column. I hit the refresh button in the ribbon and the file still has the double red arrows icon and doesn't appear to refresh.
Inventor 2014?
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Oct 19, 2012
I recently installed Vault pro 2013. I was running Inventor 2012 at the time.. My vault add-in stopped loading. I installed Inventor 2013 and the vault add-in still won't load. I've gone to the Add-in manager 2013 and set it to loaded. I hit the "OK" button and nothing. Open the manager up again and it says "unloaded". Something is going on that is not allowing my vault add-in to load.
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May 29, 2013
I am having issues getting my .dwg files to check back in to Vault Basic. I can get all different types of files (.iam .ipt .idw) to check in without issues, but .dwg files hang and Inventor will eventually lock up.
I've tried disabling Visualization and I still cannot make it past this point. I can even tell it to check in everything at once, and it will breeze through the other files but any .dwgs will hang.
My PC Config:
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
16 GB RAM
Dual AMD Radeon HD 6450
Running Product Design Suite 2014
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