AutoCAD Inventor :: Nested IAssemblies And Multi-item Parts
Feb 3, 2012
Nesting phantom iAssemblies within another iAssembly? We are having a problem with the BOM not generating the correct multi-item parts lists. Even though the individual iAssemblies act correctly when viewing there individual BOMs, when these parts are nested inside another iAssembly and switched (Table Replace) between individual items, the BOM shows all dash numbers as the current active one.
Any unresolved issues within iAssemblies and the BOM?
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Jan 30, 2013
I have created an iAssembly which contains 4 assembly variations. I now want to create an assembly drawing for these variations.
In this case all my assembly variations will have the same assembly part number as essentially they are all the same assembly except for a few "change over parts".
I intend to have one drawing with multiple sheets. Each sheet will have one variation of the assembly on it with a BOM for that specific variation. The problem I am having though is that the drawing BOM for each variation are linked and as a result each drawing has an inconsistant item numbering (for someone in the workshop who doesnt understand the CAD package and iAssemblies - They ask the question: Why are you skipping item numbers in the BOM's)
Is there any way I can get each BOM to show the item numbers sequentially? I tried editing the drawing BOM item number but the problem is that method propogates the item number changes to all the other BOM's as well.... (It is also tedious AND in my opinion it is generally bad practice to edit the BOM at the drawing level)
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Apr 6, 2011
So I've got an iAssembly and I made a drawing and I want to show all the parts. I have read in other threads that it will not let you show a Parts Only list from an iAssembly. Why do iAssemblies not let you do this? Seems like a bit of an oversight to me but I'm sure there's some technical reason.
IV2012
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Apr 10, 2012
Using Inventor 2012. I have created a parts list in my .idw that is tied to a .iam Assembly file. In the .iam file I have two instances of the assembly, where one hides certain parts, the other hides others. I can manually tell the parts list which instance I want it to read (see attached image), however, is there a way to have it update automatically? I.e. when I go in to my .iam file and activate one or the other, save the file, then the parts list will auto update itself to include the correct items? Everything else from part names to iProperties auto update in the list, so I'm curious if it can read the correct assembly instance.
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Jan 3, 2014
IV2012 API with VB:
How can i add an item to a Multi-Value-List of an existing User Parameter in Inventor2012 (Accessing API with Visual Basic) ?
My idea is for example:
uParams.Item(i).ExpressionList.AddItem(As String)
The problem is, that such a function "AddItem" doesn't exist.
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Feb 19, 2013
For some reason the item numbers in my parts list are blank. All the other information populates.
I've gone to the assmebly and varified that the BOM tabs are active and there are numbers in there.
If I inser the parts list as 'legacy' it works fine.
I can't use the renumber function, it just makes all theh item number boxes go yellow in the parts list box,
Inventor 2013.
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Jul 9, 2012
When I created a parts list this morning the list started with item 2 and skipped item 8 as shown below.
why would it do that? I know I can renumber the list, but then when I expand the subassembly to show the subassembly parts, they stay numbered 10.1, 10.2 ect. even though the subassembly has become item 8 with the renumbering. If I expand the subassembly before renumbering, I loose the indented numbering format and simply get numbers 1 to 18. True I could manually renumber all the components, but what would be the reason the parts don't come into the parts list numbered sequentially to start with?
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Sep 13, 2012
Is there an application or document setting that will make the default state of a row in a linked excel file used in a parts list default to "off" (not visble)?
More specifically, make this apply to added rows.
We have finish schedules in excel that everyone links a parts list to whenerver they need to display a finish schedule on the idw. However, when we add rows (new finishes) to the the excel finish schedule, they get displayed on the idw parts list next time the idw updates wether they are needed or not. Our practice is to only show finishes that are used on the drawing - so frequently a large portion of the whole finish schedule needs to be set to "off" or invisible.
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Sep 27, 2010
How do I pick a part to balloon it when the line is actually two parts beside each other? eg a wall sheet welded to a square column. I can 'toggle" between the two but am unable to pick the other part so continually get the item balloon for the part I don't want.
Inventor Professional 2014.
Windows 7 64 bit.
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Sep 23, 2011
I know I can select multiple parts in the browser and selecting them individually in the model window. Is there a reason or a way to select multiple parts by dragging a window like in acad or even .iam files?
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Windows 7 64 bit
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Apr 26, 2012
what this error means and what's causing it and how to fix it?
IV2010, editing a multi body part gives these errors:
1. No more memory available. Attempt to allocate 208 bytes of memory failed.
and
2. See attached.
This error is preventing me from saving or closing the program.
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Jan 27, 2012
I am working on a multi body IPT and i would like to use some purchased valves and air cylinders in the design.Is it possible to put them into the IPT. I have downloaded the cad files and converted them to IPTs.
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Jan 26, 2013
I have 17 years of Unigraphics / NX and 2 months of AutoCAD 2013 3D experience . I am designing a welded table that has lots of tubes to be aligned to each other. It appears that snaps do not work on solids and there is no way to do a point to point solid move in Inventor. Is there any way to select a solid, snap to a base point, then move or copy to a snap destination point of another solid? Does this need to be done in an assembly drawing? If so, do I have to create a file for each tube and then bring each of them into an assembly? I would like to draw the table as one part. Designing all the parts together. The lack of snaps is strange to me. I can only snap to end points in sketches. No midpoints?? I must be missing something very basic and easy. I have not tried an assembly drawing yet.
I have been working through hours and hours of training videos. Everything but move, copy and paste has been pretty easy. I think I need to find an AutoCAD to Inventor transition video. There are no training courses in my area. So I'm stuck with online training. This problem is never addressed and I can't ask the question on a video.
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Jun 7, 2012
So there seems to be a problem with the multi body part functions in 2013.
Once you create a multi body, or a multi body feature, and then try to go back and edit it you can no longer select difference bodies.
A little more digging and it almost seems like the problem is that you can not use "ctrl" to multi select bodies.
Inventor Pro 2014 SP1
Vault Pro 2014
Windows 7 x64
2.53 Xeon
Quadro FX 3800
24GB RAM
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Dec 6, 2011
We are using inventor 2011 and I would like to make the text wrap where I want it to not where the cell length determines. Can I do this in the ipropeties of the part? When I edit the parts list to move wrap the text manually the text turns blue of course, but this also negates the updating of parts automatically. In the part I use an expression to ensure that the description reverts back to the iproperties of the part ie =<G_L> X <G_W> - <MATERIAL>. I would like it to insert a text wrap then proceed to the next line with <STOCKNUMBER> - <PARTNUMBER> so I would look like:
12" X 6" - G40.21-44W
PL. 1/2 - PL-100
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Apr 17, 2013
When I try to suppress the bodies in the multi-bodies part to clarify the drawing view, I can not do that the way I normally do that if I had an assembly and suppressed the component.
Is it something Autodesk can improve on or rather something I overlook.
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Sep 28, 2012
With iAssemblies is it possible to somehow also generate a dwg from it as well? Or would you have to use copy design?
So... depending on the configuration, I would need a main assembly drawing, and a few detail dwgs.
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Sep 3, 2008
We have a product line that relies heavily on iAssemblies. The main assembly and several layers of subassemblies are all iAssemblies. All the children that needed to be generated so far were added to the vault.
If I activate a different member in the main assembly factory, Inventor wants to update some of the various children. For some reason, vault won't prompt me to check out the children. I get a variety of errors, unless I manually check out the children.
There are at least 20 iAssemblies involved at different levels of this thing, not to mention all the iParts thrown in as well.
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Oct 23, 2013
I have a large library of standard parts and assemblies that I will be migrating from Inventor 2009 to Inventor 2013
Residing in this library are iparts and iassemblies. Both the factory and the members.
Question is how to migrate these iparts and iassemblies,.
option 1 migrate the factory first THEN the members
option 2 migrate the members then the factory (pretty sure this will not work)
option 3 migrate both factory and members at the same time
option 4 migrate the factory and generate new members (not my favorite option)
option 5 ?????
I should add that I intend to use task scheduler to migrate the files
Inventor 2010
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Apr 13, 2012
I am finding it difficult to find good through examples of how to use iLogic with iParts and iAssemblies. I have been through several of tutorials, but can't seem to find examples for what I need. Here is a link to a video to give you a bit of an idea of what I am trying to do. How/when and what snippets to use in order to get the iParts and iAssemblies to function properly.
See Video : [URL].....
First video went to long here is the rest.. [URL].......
One thing I think I mentioned in the last video, but not sure I explained it well, is that instead of having the main file name show up in the browser..the part name shows up. When I go to change parts using a form I created it keeps telling me it can't find the current part.
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Oct 10, 2012
With the iAssembly I created I now have a message when I open the drawing informing me that i need to regenerate the factory. This terminology is new to me and I have not been able to accomplish this task. I have opened the assembly, selected manage, and updated the assembly with each of the iAssemblies active.
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Mar 20, 2012
We are currently still using Inventor2010. I realize that we are using a later version (trying to get boss to allow us to upgrade). I was wondering if that is where our issues stem from. At times when we create iAssemblies we have issues in which objects disappear and/or inventor crashes whenever we switch the tree to a different part number. If we try to place a sub-assembly file into an assembly file some parts seem to disappear. As a work around we have tried to place all components separately (omitting the sub-assembly file), and the file will still crash or objects disappear. Some of our files get a little large, but aren't really to complex. We have been having issues with this one file in particular and it has been redone several times by different users, on different work stations.
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Apr 18, 2013
It has to do with iparts and iassemblies and “save copy as”. My concern is that during the concept stage an engineer may be working on a design and will create an ipart, as many of our designs have multiple versions. They now want to keep a copy of that ipart, and try something new so they “save copy as” and create a new file. The new ipart members all have the name reference to the first design. Does renaming those members redirect the path to the new ipart, or should we avoid designing like this all together?
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Sep 2, 2011
Is there any good documentation/workflows/suggestions,etc.. about using and implementing Vault with iparts/iassemblies?
We are finally going to move to using Vault (finally got a drafter to do the "dirty work") and I keep seeing/hearing horror stories/issues about using Vault with iparts/iassemblies.
Typically all of my top level products that we sell are iassemblies (we always each make products in 3 different flavors/3 different voltages). Each of those iassemblies includes at least 1 sub that is also an iassembly. Each of those sub-iassemblies contains at least 1 ipart.
I'm just can't find enough information about the proper way to handle/check in/migrate/manage,etc... this stuff when we move to Vault. But I do find lots of posts about how Vault can't handle iparts/iassemblies correctly but I assume thats just improper setup/workflows.
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Dec 17, 2013
I have made an iAssembly with a main body and flanges attached to the body.
Assembly feature holes have been created act on the main body, and these holes are relative to the position of the flange.
When I change the factory member - the position of the flange changes, but the holes stay in the last location and so the model is wrong.
The only way to overcome this error, is if I go to the Manage tab and manually select 'Rebuild All'.
I need this to work automatically as drawings are generated wrong when changing model state.
My intention is that this will be used in an iLogic routine, linked to an external sales package.
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Nov 30, 2012
I have made a family of weldments. I am having trouble controlling the visibility of the weld symbols when I place one of these members. On some members the welds are shown and on others they are not. I know that I can turn off all the welds (View>Object Visibility> Weld Symbols) but there are other weld symbols in the assembly that I need/want to leave visible. In the image below all three weldments have the same welds, but the weld symbol of only the one is shown when I place it in an iam.
In each member of the iassembly, I have unchecked the visibility under the Welds node, but some are still visible when i place them, so that must not be controlling it. Sure would be good if visibility of welds were controlled by view representation.
Windows 7 x64 -12 GB Ram
Intel i7-930 @ 3.60ghz
nVidia GTS 250 -1GB (Driver 301.42)
INV Pro R2013, SP1.1
Vault Basic 2013
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Mar 21, 2012
I am venturing into a new area with my iLogic coding. Looking for some good examples or How-To of how to use iLogic with iParts and iAssemblies.
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Nov 16, 2011
See attached.
I no longer have the option to edit iparts or iassemblies via speadsheet (excel). I'm using Excel 2007. (INV 2012 Sp1)
Is excel functionality part of an addin that I might have turned off accidentally?
I believe it was working in 2012 but haven't really noticed it not working till after Sp1 install till now..
Running 2014 Product Design Suite Ultimate
Windows 7 64 bit
90G OCZ SATA 3 SSD
Core I7 920 processor, ATI HD6970 graphics card, 12G Corsair RAM
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Sep 27, 2012
I am trying to replace a custom part - created from a content center part - with a copied part with a different name. (I am using the replace tool in an assembly.) However, Inventor is not replacing the part with the part I pick but rather the content center version of it.
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Mar 30, 2012
On the main sheet of my drawing I have the overall Parts List. Shows almost all parts except for the few that we don't want to list. On the second sheet I inserted a Parts List to show only parts that are shown in a detail on that page, made the rest non-visible.
On the main sheet there is an item (#13) that has a QTY of 3. Two of those Three are optional parts. What I'm trying to do is insert a custom part into the Parts List, give it an item number of 13A and put in the description "OPTIONAL", then do an Override in the balloon to show 13A.
I get it in the Parts List, Apply it, close it, save the drawing. Looking at the Parts List, item #13A is there, but item #14 is gone. I go back into the Parts List and 13A is there and there's a blue box around the item # and the description. I uncheck Static Value and number 14 shows up (item # and the description).
Then I go over to sheet two, open that Parts List and it lists 13A at the bottom with all the info I added in sheet one and it's non-visible. Go back to sheet one, open the Parts List and there is no 13A to be found.
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May 2, 2013
I am working on an assembly that is designed around a box (bounding box) that could change size. I modeled the bounding box and placed it in a new assembly file. All other parts have been created within the assembly by referencing that bounding box with starting work plane and project geometry.
The problem comes in when I change the bounding box dimensions. The work planes for each additional part, which were defined by the faces of the bounding box, do not move when the sides move. Also, my projected geometry is not updating correctly. This is a simple box, with all 90° corners. So, all associated parts (at this point) are just rectangles.
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