AutoCAD Inventor :: Using ILogic With IParts And IAssemblies
Apr 13, 2012
I am finding it difficult to find good through examples of how to use iLogic with iParts and iAssemblies. I have been through several of tutorials, but can't seem to find examples for what I need. Here is a link to a video to give you a bit of an idea of what I am trying to do. How/when and what snippets to use in order to get the iParts and iAssemblies to function properly.
See Video : [URL].....
First video went to long here is the rest.. [URL].......
One thing I think I mentioned in the last video, but not sure I explained it well, is that instead of having the main file name show up in the browser..the part name shows up. When I go to change parts using a form I created it keeps telling me it can't find the current part.
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Mar 21, 2012
I am venturing into a new area with my iLogic coding. Looking for some good examples or How-To of how to use iLogic with iParts and iAssemblies.
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Oct 23, 2013
I have a large library of standard parts and assemblies that I will be migrating from Inventor 2009 to Inventor 2013
Residing in this library are iparts and iassemblies. Both the factory and the members.
Question is how to migrate these iparts and iassemblies,.
option 1 migrate the factory first THEN the members
option 2 migrate the members then the factory (pretty sure this will not work)
option 3 migrate both factory and members at the same time
option 4 migrate the factory and generate new members (not my favorite option)
option 5 ?????
I should add that I intend to use task scheduler to migrate the files
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Sep 2, 2011
Is there any good documentation/workflows/suggestions,etc.. about using and implementing Vault with iparts/iassemblies?
We are finally going to move to using Vault (finally got a drafter to do the "dirty work") and I keep seeing/hearing horror stories/issues about using Vault with iparts/iassemblies.
Typically all of my top level products that we sell are iassemblies (we always each make products in 3 different flavors/3 different voltages). Each of those iassemblies includes at least 1 sub that is also an iassembly. Each of those sub-iassemblies contains at least 1 ipart.
I'm just can't find enough information about the proper way to handle/check in/migrate/manage,etc... this stuff when we move to Vault. But I do find lots of posts about how Vault can't handle iparts/iassemblies correctly but I assume thats just improper setup/workflows.
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Nov 16, 2011
See attached.
I no longer have the option to edit iparts or iassemblies via speadsheet (excel). I'm using Excel 2007. (INV 2012 Sp1)
Is excel functionality part of an addin that I might have turned off accidentally?
I believe it was working in 2012 but haven't really noticed it not working till after Sp1 install till now..
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Jan 9, 2012
I am currently using iparts/assemblies to model a resistor bank. We have dozens of different configurations and currently each time we need a new one its is re modeled from scratch.
I have created an assembly with all my relevant parts and controlled it through parameters to auto update when key values are changed.
What I would ideally like to do is to either link my two iparts to the iassembly though the excel sheets they use. Currently I have to added each variation to the parts first and then added the parameters to the assembly.
Would it be possible to have a master sheet were all control values are inputted and then each excel sheet for the different parts are linked to this?
As the excel sheets are saved in the temp file and are deleted once you have finished editing I have found it hard to do this so far. Can I change where they are saved? I tried save copy as which created the file but inventor did not link to it.
If this is not possible can I utilize iLogic to input the key values and then write them to a new row in the table. I have created a rule already to limit the number of elements and also the length of the by's (the space between each supporting rod). I have included a zip file with all my parts in it.
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Sep 28, 2012
With iAssemblies is it possible to somehow also generate a dwg from it as well? Or would you have to use copy design?
So... depending on the configuration, I would need a main assembly drawing, and a few detail dwgs.
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Sep 3, 2008
We have a product line that relies heavily on iAssemblies. The main assembly and several layers of subassemblies are all iAssemblies. All the children that needed to be generated so far were added to the vault.
If I activate a different member in the main assembly factory, Inventor wants to update some of the various children. For some reason, vault won't prompt me to check out the children. I get a variety of errors, unless I manually check out the children.
There are at least 20 iAssemblies involved at different levels of this thing, not to mention all the iParts thrown in as well.
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Oct 10, 2012
With the iAssembly I created I now have a message when I open the drawing informing me that i need to regenerate the factory. This terminology is new to me and I have not been able to accomplish this task. I have opened the assembly, selected manage, and updated the assembly with each of the iAssemblies active.
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Mar 20, 2012
We are currently still using Inventor2010. I realize that we are using a later version (trying to get boss to allow us to upgrade). I was wondering if that is where our issues stem from. At times when we create iAssemblies we have issues in which objects disappear and/or inventor crashes whenever we switch the tree to a different part number. If we try to place a sub-assembly file into an assembly file some parts seem to disappear. As a work around we have tried to place all components separately (omitting the sub-assembly file), and the file will still crash or objects disappear. Some of our files get a little large, but aren't really to complex. We have been having issues with this one file in particular and it has been redone several times by different users, on different work stations.
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Apr 18, 2013
It has to do with iparts and iassemblies and “save copy as”. My concern is that during the concept stage an engineer may be working on a design and will create an ipart, as many of our designs have multiple versions. They now want to keep a copy of that ipart, and try something new so they “save copy as” and create a new file. The new ipart members all have the name reference to the first design. Does renaming those members redirect the path to the new ipart, or should we avoid designing like this all together?
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Apr 6, 2011
So I've got an iAssembly and I made a drawing and I want to show all the parts. I have read in other threads that it will not let you show a Parts Only list from an iAssembly. Why do iAssemblies not let you do this? Seems like a bit of an oversight to me but I'm sure there's some technical reason.
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Dec 17, 2013
I have made an iAssembly with a main body and flanges attached to the body.
Assembly feature holes have been created act on the main body, and these holes are relative to the position of the flange.
When I change the factory member - the position of the flange changes, but the holes stay in the last location and so the model is wrong.
The only way to overcome this error, is if I go to the Manage tab and manually select 'Rebuild All'.
I need this to work automatically as drawings are generated wrong when changing model state.
My intention is that this will be used in an iLogic routine, linked to an external sales package.
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Feb 3, 2012
Nesting phantom iAssemblies within another iAssembly? We are having a problem with the BOM not generating the correct multi-item parts lists. Even though the individual iAssemblies act correctly when viewing there individual BOMs, when these parts are nested inside another iAssembly and switched (Table Replace) between individual items, the BOM shows all dash numbers as the current active one.
Any unresolved issues within iAssemblies and the BOM?
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Nov 30, 2012
I have made a family of weldments. I am having trouble controlling the visibility of the weld symbols when I place one of these members. On some members the welds are shown and on others they are not. I know that I can turn off all the welds (View>Object Visibility> Weld Symbols) but there are other weld symbols in the assembly that I need/want to leave visible. In the image below all three weldments have the same welds, but the weld symbol of only the one is shown when I place it in an iam.
In each member of the iassembly, I have unchecked the visibility under the Welds node, but some are still visible when i place them, so that must not be controlling it. Sure would be good if visibility of welds were controlled by view representation.
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Jan 30, 2013
I have created an iAssembly which contains 4 assembly variations. I now want to create an assembly drawing for these variations.
In this case all my assembly variations will have the same assembly part number as essentially they are all the same assembly except for a few "change over parts".
I intend to have one drawing with multiple sheets. Each sheet will have one variation of the assembly on it with a BOM for that specific variation. The problem I am having though is that the drawing BOM for each variation are linked and as a result each drawing has an inconsistant item numbering (for someone in the workshop who doesnt understand the CAD package and iAssemblies - They ask the question: Why are you skipping item numbers in the BOM's)
Is there any way I can get each BOM to show the item numbers sequentially? I tried editing the drawing BOM item number but the problem is that method propogates the item number changes to all the other BOM's as well.... (It is also tedious AND in my opinion it is generally bad practice to edit the BOM at the drawing level)
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Apr 10, 2012
Using Inventor 2012. I have created a parts list in my .idw that is tied to a .iam Assembly file. In the .iam file I have two instances of the assembly, where one hides certain parts, the other hides others. I can manually tell the parts list which instance I want it to read (see attached image), however, is there a way to have it update automatically? I.e. when I go in to my .iam file and activate one or the other, save the file, then the parts list will auto update itself to include the correct items? Everything else from part names to iProperties auto update in the list, so I'm curious if it can read the correct assembly instance.
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Jul 5, 2013
I created an iPart of a flat sheet metal with several holes in it. It requires 3 Parameters to be be defined:
- length (user defined parameter which can take any value)
- width (user defined parameter which can take any value)
- hole_diameter
I created a skeleton file with several user defined parameters including length and width.
Both files (skeleton.ipt and flat_sheet.ipt) are placed in the same assembly. I now would like IPart instance to follow along the changes made in the skeleton - but how do I connect these parameters? and if not, what would be an appropriate Top Down approach for including iParts?
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Oct 21, 2011
If I put iParts into an assembly, and then convert this assembly to an iAssembly, I can include "Table Replace [My_iPart]" as a column in the parameter table. As the value of this column I can select the individual rows of the given iPart parameter table.
However, I can not make this column be a "Custom Parameter Column". (In fact it seems to me that in an iAssembly I can not make any other types of columns to be "Custom Parameter Columns" either). Also, if a parameter of the iPart is a "custom parameter", I can not carry over this "customness" into the iAuthor parameter table.
This means that I need to insert table rows by hand, one-by-one, which is quite cumbersome. Imagine you have an iAssembly containing only two iParts, each having N rows. This means N^2 rows in the iAssembly, all of which I need to specify by hand. Plus I can not use the "customness" of a parameter of an iPart within the assembly.
In an iAssembly containing an iPart, I would like to
- have a "Custom Parameter Column" in the iAssembly parameter table, which can select rows from the iPart parameter table (selectable values would automatically be all the rows from the correcponding iPart)
- if my iPart has a custom parameter, I would like to have this custom parameter available as a separate custom-value column in the iAssembly
Is it possible somehow? Or is it conceptually wrong?
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Aug 14, 2013
This is using Inventor 2013 Professional.
I've created a simple iPart and want to insert multiple instances of it into an assembly. The plan is to use a parameter-driven iPart to create multiple variations on the same basic model which will eventually be lasercut.
I've included a sample archive. 2DiPart is a simple part with a couple parameters. 2Dassembly is where I've tried to include this part. I'm able to walk through all the dialogs to place the iPart, and will even see it in the canvas as I select the insertion point. However, after I dismiss the dialog, nothing shows up in the canvas. I'm still able to see the component instances in the project explorer however.
How to best to get multiple instances of a parametric iPart into a drawing that can be lasercut.
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Jan 3, 2012
I created a Ipart with like 14 different configurations now it operates smoothly within the part. Now once i insert it into a assembly it wont let me chance the configuration. I heard there was a problem like this but i thought it was only when you insert a part into a assembly and change it into a ipart while its still within a assembly.
Now my part never was in a assembly. Ill upload it and let me know if you have the same issue. Once i drop the part it doesn't give me the option to choose a configuration and when i click the configuration in the itable it still doesnt change it. Now this is only within a assembly.
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Sep 26, 2013
Subject: Inventor placing Iparts in Assembly (Autodesk Inventor 2010)
Problem:
When placing an Ipart into a project Assembly it will make a copy of that variant and place it in the same map as the Ipart.
So when variant B of Ipart A is selected it will make a copy of variant B in the same folder where Ipart A is located.
Question:
Is it possible to make a “save as” option or another similar manner to save those copies of variant B in a project map of a project assembly?
Instead of saving all the Ipart variants to a single folder. So each time a new project is started they have all the parts in the same folder.
Reason:
I am making a local library for parts that are used for repairs. These parts have many variants and some times need to be customized for a repair.
The current system keeps polluting itself causing the users to loose their parts and accidentally delete the original parts etc.
I contacted Autodesk support and theyrecommended to post this question on this forum. They did mentioned that vba programming could achieve this. I have no knowledge of this type of programming.
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Oct 21, 2011
I have a wishlist item. One of my major process-related issues with iparts is the fact getting variables into your table is inconvenient. Why wouldn't it be possible to put an "Add to IPart Table" option in the context menus for dimensions, planes, features, anything you can put in the table from the table window. That way you are not constantly moving back and forth between your sketches and your table when you set up an Ipart or Iassembly. This feature would save me TONS of time as well as clean up my tables. Right now the easiest way to set up the table when dealing with a complex sketch is just to add all the dimensions, make my changes for each variation, save to table and then go back and delete the columns I didn't change.
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Feb 3, 2012
How do you change from one i-part to different one within the assembly?
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Feb 14, 2012
I need a parameter from an iPart to show up in my Parts List by using the Stock Number iProperty, then CHANGE with each variation of the iPart (PLATE BC-01, PLATE BC-02, PLATE BC-03, etc). I already have the parameter exported, named 'BOTTOM_A.' Stock number has the expression: '=1/4" HRS x <BOTTOM_A>.'
However, this only works for that particular part. The number does not change when I place a Parts List for PLATE BC-02 and PLATE BC-03. All three have the same number. I found that the number corresponds to the active part. If I double-click PLATE BC-02 in the ipt file to show it, the number for the separate Parts Lists will all correspond to PLATE BC-02.
I've attached an image of the Parts Lists after double-clicking PLATE BC-02 in PLATE BC.ipt. I can include more if needed.
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Jun 7, 2012
When we create iparts and generate the files from the mother ipart, Inventor creates an additional folder to place the iparts into. Is there a setting somewhere to force Inventor to place these generated files into a user defined location?
Or is this just something we have to live with and do we have to manually move the files after generating them.
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Jan 12, 2010
users using i-parts and i-assemblies with vault. The links seem to cause more problems than its worth. Assemblies that constantly want to be updated, rebuilt, parts lists on drawings using data from the wrong instance of the factory. etc.
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Apr 12, 2013
The attached sketch shows how I originally decided to use iParts in drawings and assemblies. In assemblies I use the generated iPart, and in drawings I use the "master" iPart file. I did that because I wanted to keep the drawing linked to the "master" part, to avoid the situation where the drawing would be out of date because I forgot to regenerate the iParts.
The problem is that I don't know how to force the drawing to refer to the correct version of the iPart. To use the terminology in my sketch, I open X2.idw and get a drawing of X1.ipt, not X2.ipt. Should I use the generated iPart in my drawings? And, if so, is there a way I can automatically regenerate. I'm prone to forgetting key steps like that.
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Jun 6, 2012
I created a new part doing a save as from a content center flange. I then created iparts in the saved part file.
My question is when I place this part into a new assembly it is not allowing me to change from one ipart to another in the part table within the assembly.
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May 15, 2013
I am working using iparts on inventor 2013. How can i save/generate each part created on iparts as a single .ipt file?
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Mar 1, 2013
If I create a parts list as a parts only list it groups all my ipart members into one single entry, but if I use the legacy option it shows them all separately.
How can I split this out in the standard parts only parts list?
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