AutoCAD Inventor :: Reference Parts Geometry On Detailed Drawings
Jun 17, 2012
How can you force the geometry of reference parts to print behind to print behind your visible parts. I have my reference parts print out on a light gray layer to be shown indistinct on a drawings, but it prints over my object lines in effect hiding them. This is even true if a reference part is hidden. Then hidden line will print over the object lines as well.
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Dec 6, 2011
We have some serious problems by creating assembly drawings with reference geometries in inventor 2010. Our target is, to create a drawing that look the way, the attachment shows (Picture-1) The sheet metal plates Pos 10-100 are an assembly. And the assembly in the back is the reference geometry. It’s a frame consists of steel sections. What we want: 1. The frame must be phantom lined in the idw. 2.
The Sheet Metal parts must be thick lined. 3. The Partslist of the Assembly should only contain the sheet metal parts and not the frame We have some ideas to solve this case, but each of them is nor perfect (please see the attachment Box.pdf) And there’s another problem (described in part 3 of attachment), we cannot position viewports or drawing elements to each other exactly. You have no possibility to give them dependencies. Also if you want to position symbols to each other. All of them are only near to be exact, but that’s a big problem. If you change contents of a viewport, another should be aligned to it, but that doesn’t work.
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Jun 18, 2012
How do I show detailed drawings of all weldments onto one drawing sheet? I have created a weldment assembly of various pipes attached together and would like to create shop drawings. Please see attached picture for model tree. I can't seem to bring in seperate views of each of the pipes on the same drawing sheet for proper detailing. Do I have to do something before making the assembly or afterwards to get those views?
CAD: Autodesk Inventor 2013
O/P: Windows 7 64-Bit
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Jun 11, 2013
I have an iCopy solution that when resized smaller than the master some frame members no longer reference existing geometry (and aren't needed).
Is there a way to delete these with an iLogic rule? Curtis has a neat solution for sick constraints, I was hoping to use the same type of rule, but I'm at a loss as to how to reference the frame elements.
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Apr 10, 2012
In an assembly document, if you want to project a sketch from one part into another, you go through these steps:
- select the part
- edit the part
- create a 2D sketch
- select the plane
- select project geometry
- select the sketch in the other part
- finish sketch
This creates a reference to the original sketch, so if I move the original sketch the new sketch will also move when I hit Assemble.
I am trying to do the same through the API, so I create a proxy for the original sketch and a proxy for the new sketch. I then use the AddByProjectingEntity method on the new sketch proxy passing the original sketch proxy.
This works for projecting the sketch, but it doesn't create the reference, so if I move the original sketch the new one doesn't move, even if I hit Assemble. How to create this link between the two sketches?
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Jul 27, 2006
I've come across this many times now. When in an assembly, I create a sketch. I then try to project geometry and I will sometimes get this error:
"Cannot constrain or dimension reference or fixed geometry."
why I can't project edges/faces/points of certain parts?
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Sep 2, 2009
I am having trouble with Iparts getting a red cross due to dimensions and constraints to unresolved reference geometry. If, for example, I have Hole 2 dimensioned from Hole 1 in one member and in another member I suppress Hole 1 and Hole 2 I get an error stating (correctly) that the sketch for Hole 2 has a "Dimension to unresolved reference geometry". I understand why I should get this error if Hole 2 was unsuppressed and Hole 1 was suppressed but why do I get this error when they are both suppressed.
If I get this error on a member that has these two holes suppressed and I switch back to a member that has them both active the error dissapears. I guess in the end this is a question for Autodesk. Can you set up Iparts so that when a feature is suppressed Inventor completely ignores it instead of still trying to resolve it. This functionality is a major headache for us because we don't want to leave models with the Red Cross on but if we want to dimension our features appropriately (ie referencing other, related features) we have to leave a model with errors in it.
See attached part. If you switch within the first 2 members there are no errors, if you move into the last 2 members you will see the cross highlight.
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Feb 8, 2013
I am trying to place a simple Ifeature, its basically an offset from reference geometry but when I place the ifeature it offsets the feature the wrong side of the line.
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Jun 5, 2013
know if we could put for example the Building of our Assembly in some 2D drawings as a "Reference" object and as a non reference object in other 2D drawings?
In some 2D drawings we don't need the whole building, and just with the references is enough, but in some other views, we need to see the building so we can represent the real obstacles we have or to show how the custumer should do the pipe implantation
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Jul 31, 2012
Is there a tutorial for importing 2D AutoCAD geomtetry and using it as a basis for your 3D sketches? I'm sure in a demo somewhere I saw someone using 2D layouts to quickly start creating 3D geometry from.
To clarify i'm not referring to the add-in in AutoCAD Labs but the actual process to do this using Inventor tools.
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Mar 20, 2012
All of the patterned parts in my assembly show up as reference parts in the BOM I have I have opened the base part for the pattern and made sure its BOM is set to normal. When I change the BOM setting in the assembly it automatically changes to reference.
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Jun 21, 2013
I am having trouble with getting the reference parts of my assemblies to show on the IDW drawings. That is, most of them show, but some items disappear.
On the attached picture you can see what i mean... its of a circular structure with a door frame mounted. One is put in as normal assembly, one is put in as reference part.
The circular structure shows, but the door is missing (in some views). When I do a sectional view of the view where it is missing it appears.
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Sep 28, 2011
I had some parts that in BOM were checked as "referenced". Then at some point I changed them to "normal".
In the drawing environment they still act like reference parts even though I changed them to "normal" before created the view.
They are still see thru when I go Drawings View/Model State/Reference data/As parts. They act like they are reference parts but they are not anymore. How to make then really "normal"?
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Jan 18, 2013
Is there a reference of the markup that is used with formatted text on drawings?
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Mar 21, 2013
I have an assembly that uses reference parts. I do not want them in the BOM, but they are used in other drawings in the BOM. When I make them reference, the iso drawing view boundaries are not correct. Can I change the size? Crop will only decrease the size not increase?
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Nov 19, 2012
I am doing a .idw drawing of an assembly that I have several parts that I do not want to appear in the BOM parts list. I have therefore set these parts as Reference parts however this has caused them to appear as "hidden type" lines in the drawing and are even visible through other parts.
Is there any way to make these parts appear in the drawing "as normal" and not be listed in the parts list?
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Dec 7, 2011
In a drawing Is there anyway to section (and show the hatch pattern) on reference components?
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Dec 16, 2011
I am trying to find a simple way to center part(s) to some reference within an assembly such that if any part sizes are changed, then the assembly will stay symmetrical when updated. I would imagine that this is simply possible without adding any constraint containing a numeric value.
See attached part and assembly files showing a 4 piece frame with the angles unconstrained NE to SW. All i want to do is maintain symmetry of the frame if any parts sizes (cross-sectional or length) are changed. I've tried to add a centered plane to the angle and aligning that with a sketch point made in the assembly but i can't select any sketch features when i try to apply an assembly constraint.
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Jul 18, 2013
When a drawing view is made within Inventor from a presentation file (.ipn) some of the parts sometimes donot appear as properly visible.
I have attached some screen shots which might lead to some clues.
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Apr 2, 2013
I already have a code below that will read a bunch of drawing filenames that will go into each drawing, save the drawing, (print the drawing but I have this disabled for now,) close it, then move onto the next one.
What I want to do is add reference brackets around every dimension on each drawing. I have managed to update part list styles before using ilogic but I am not sure if it is possible with dimensions.
question = MessageBox.Show("Are you sure you want to update multiple drawings? If so, make sure all drawings are checked out.", "Batch Drawing Update",MessageBoxButtons.YesNo,MessageBoxIcon.Question)
'set condition based on answer
If question = vbNo
Exit Sub
End If
[Code] ......
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Oct 3, 2013
I made a flanged connection using I logic. Very simple Tube + Flange + Gasket + Blind flange + Bolting.Then I tried to write some ilogic rule to have Blind flange on / off when needed, hence the Gasket & Bolting also need to be off. Like in these images:
That works fine visually, but I also want the BOM to be set accordingly. For the Blind flange & Gasket my BOM is OK. But for my bolting the BOM is not OK. I tried to set the BOM structure the same way as the visibility but that failed. It only subtracted 1 bolt from my list (see code)
If Blindflange_status = 0 Then 'Bolting offComponent.InventorComponent("Bolting:1").BOMStructure = BOMStructureEnum.kReferenceBOMStructure 'Sets BOM Structure to Reference (Remove from BOM)Component.Visible("Bolting:1") = FalseElse 'Bolting onComponent.InventorComponent("Bolting:1").BOMStructure = BOMStructureEnum.kDefaultBOMStructure 'Sets BOM Structure to Reference (Remove from BOM)Component.Visible("Bolting:1") = TrueEnd If
Is there a way to set all parts within a pattern BOM structure? I made my bolting by adding 1 bolt, 1 washer & 1 nut and then pattern them using feature pattern select.
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Oct 3, 2013
I made a flanged connection using I logic. Very simple Tube + Flange + Gasket + Blind flange + Bolting.
Then I tried to write some ilogic rule to have Blind flange on / off when needed, hence the Gasket & Bolting also need to be off. Like in these images:
That works fine visually, but I also want the BOM to be set accordingly. For the Blind flange & Gasket my BOM is OK. But for my bolting the BOM is not OK.
I tried to set the BOM structure the same way as the visibility but that failed. It only subtracted 1 bolt from my list (see code)
If Blindflange_status = 0 Then 'Bolting offComponent.InventorComponent("Bolting:1").BOMStructure = BOMStructureEnum.kReferenceBOMStructure 'Sets BOM Structure to Reference (Remove from BOM)Component.Visible("Bolting:1") = FalseElse 'Bolting onComponent.InventorComponent("Bolting:1").BOMStructure = BOMStructureEnum.kDefaultBOMStructure 'Sets BOM Structure to Reference (Remove from BOM)Component.Visible("Bolting:1") = TrueEnd If
Is there a way to set all parts within a pattern BOM structure?
I made my bolting by adding 1 bolt, 1 washer & 1 nut and then pattern them using feature pattern select. Inventor 2013
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Jul 31, 2012
I need to assign the dimension in my screenshot to a parameter so I can use it to drive another assembly. However, I can't find any way to capture it in a usable manner.
In the screenshot I have an associative part inserted that contains only a sketch with the projected line and point that I wish to measure between, but the geometry in the sketch does not update when the model geometry changes. This seems to be normal behavior?
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Jun 26, 2013
We use to color components in idw drawings very often. And when we have drawings of large assemblies we lose a lot of time for that. Usually we select the parts from views (having "Part Priority" in Filter Selection), right click and from the properties we change the color.
I was thinking if there could be faster ways to do it. For example to create a command (which later should accessed via a button on keyboard) that will call the colors window in the components properties, having the part already selected.
Probably I need a .vba code or an ilogic rule to create this command.
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Oct 2, 2013
Having inserted a parts list into my idw drawing i noticed that one of the column widths need to be increased,i went to the edit parts list style and increased the column width,saved it etc.
I expected the column width to increase automatically but it did not.One way i have found to do this is to reload the parts list,but surely this is not the answer.
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Jun 14, 2013
I have assemblies that are comprised of reference parts - the assembly is a purchased part such as an air cylinder. I have them as reference only in the assembly (ie right click on the parts in the model tree->BOM Reference->Reference). I do it this way so I can adjust the air cylinder how I need it, but still only asign one part number to the whole assembly - as an example we'll say "cylinderX" is the part number, and filename is "cylinderX.iam"
The problem arises when I put cylinderX.iam into other assemblies and try and make drawings of those assemblies. Even though cylinderX.iam is not a reference part (but all it's sub components are), it shows up in an IDW just like reference parts. I am able to make it show up how I want by editing the view properties (Edit View->Model State Tab->Reference Data Line Style "as parts"), but I still cannot balloon cylinderX.iam. It shows up in the parts list, but I cannot attach a balloon to it.
Inventor 2013, 64-Bit
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Intel Core i7-3820QM @ 2.70 GHz
16 GB Ram
NVIDIA Quadro K4000M
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Jun 20, 2013
I there a way of finding each Bom structured part that is set to reference in an assembly and setting the view of that component to in-visible.
Also needs to iterate into all set View reps that where created and set all views to not show the referenced parts as well.
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Dec 11, 2012
Is it possible to plot (or print) all sub assemblies or parts drawings into separate pages by code?
I do not want to open and print every parts. One code and print all... Is it possible?
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Jan 8, 2009
Been using Inventor from day one, never had a problem turning off the visibility of parts in darwing views till now.I cant hide parts in IDWs anymore.
* Select set to "Part Priority"... right click on a line in a drawing view... and "Visiblity" is grayed out.
* Browser Bar... find view of assembly, right click on a part.... and "Visiblity" is grayed out.
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Aug 27, 2012
Two different problems (questions). These are IV2012 files but the problems are the same in 2013.
Open the two attached ipt's. Launch the Measure Distance tool and measure between the blue an red face on the DimTest. It should read 1 inch.
Change to DimTest Derive using the tabs on the status line. Measure still gives 1 in. Change precision to All Decimals. The mouse pointer changes to calipers and the distance now measure 1.004 (which is correct)
Switch back to DimTest again using the tabs.
Measure again and notice the mouse pointer still shows the calipers which imply that it is going to return all decimals but the dimension given is still just 1 inch. Either the mouse pointer should change back or all decimals should stick.
OpenDimTest.dwg. Manage> Modify> Replace Model Reference and pick DimTestDerive.
ALL dims disappear and the origin indicator goes sick.
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Oct 25, 2012
I have a parametric assembly and some of the parts in this assembly require a "Break". When the part dramatically reduces in size the part view disappears as the part is now located in the "Break". Delete the "Break", re apply the "Break".
I would like to be able to constrain a Break to the part, either a sketch on the view or maybe from Workplanes in the part.
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