AutoCAD Inventor :: Changes To Derived Parts In 2013?
Jul 9, 2012
Most of my part files contain at least one sketch which is derived from another part file. These derived sketches do not update like they did in our previous versions of Inventor.
If you change the geometry on a sketch in the base component, the updates will flow through to the derived parts. If you add geometry, it also works. However, if you delete any geometry from the sketch in the base part, it will not be deleted in the derived sketches in the second, third, etc. parts. The 'deleted' sketch geometry remains in those parts until you go into all the parts which derive from the base part and manually delete it. This is a significant problem for for our workflow.
Is there an option I have missed that changes this behavior so that deleted geometry in a sketch will also be deleted in any derived sketches in other parts?
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Aug 23, 2012
have one assy comprising of a valve, made in steel, an actuator made in aluminum, total weight combined is 36 kg.
I make this assy a derived ipt.. i have tried all the output options, single solid, multy solid and the weight is not the same.. since its a new ipt has its own material, ok makes sense.. .. So i use composite, i get the correct weight (yay), but now i cant turn the visibility off on the 2d drawing, in certain pipe spool view representations.
What is the correct procedure for turning multi material assys into an ipt.. to get the correct weights and get the drawings to work properly?
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Sep 20, 2012
As a recent convert from ProEngineer to Inventor, if it is possible to vary the parameters exported from the source model in the derived part. The following article (see link below) explains the functionality in ProE - note the ability to see the model tree of the source part and also the ability to have varied items (dimensions, suppress features etc.) URL.....
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Jul 31, 2013
I am using Inventor 2012. I have a part that has 3 different inserts of a different material that I have to cut out. So I create 3 different assemblies with the part and the the 3 different inserts. Then I create 3 parts to derived the cutouts. Then 3 new assemblies to create the final assembly with the part and its insert.
Does Inventor 2014 have a way to do this with an i Assembly? I can't seem to derive a member of an i Assembly now. In my old CAD system I was able to create a table with one assembly that contained one part, three different inserts and 3 different cutouts. Right now this seems like a lot of work.
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Jan 24, 2012
I have a problem with the Bolted Conection function when using derived parts created from a multi-body part.
I created a multi-body part in which I pit some holes with the hole function (clearence hole, through, M16, normal). After that I generate all the compontents. In the generated asembly I tried to add a bolted connection (placement by hole). Normaly after selecting the start-plane and the hole it discovered patterns (if exist). Now, after selecting start plane no holes are found.
see attachment for simplified model. Autodesk Inventor Product Design Suite 2013 SP1.1
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Oct 28, 2013
Is there a way of using ilogic code to untick the highlighted component below. To run at assembly level to itterate down all levelsUntick (Use color overide from source component) update all parts
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Jul 14, 2013
It says i can exclude parts from the assembly, when i insert it as a derived part, but the exclude button is greyed in the insert derived part dialog box.
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Nov 18, 2011
Looks that in Inventor 2012 apperead few errors with coloring when we apply any feature on derived part. Situation:
1. Design Multi body Part with few bodies
2. Make components from it
3. Open derived component
4. Apply new material for this part (for example Copper)
5. Make Hole on any component surface
6. You will get Default color of Hole surface and surface which contact with Hole Color
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Dec 4, 2007
I am having some trouble with this quick VBA app, I want a utility that can traverse all the parts in a top level assembly and suppress the link to each derived part (multiple) in all the parts in the assembly.
I have played with the following
Public Sub SuppressLink()
Dim partdoc As PartDocument
Set partdoc = ThisApplication.ActiveDocument
partdoc.ComponentDefinition.ReferenceComponents.DerivedPartComponents.Item(1).SuppressLinkToFile = True
End Sub
Which works, but only on one part file, and only on the first derived part. Is there any easy way to make this work on ALL the dervived links and every single part inside an assembly?
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May 17, 2011
Concerning Inventor 2012...
We do a good bit of deriving parts from assemblies. We have a workflow that works well for us, we create PARTS, put them in an ASSEMBLY, then create new PARTS DERIVED from ASSEMBLY. We use Boolean to add/subtract and disregard parts as needed to create these parts. These parts are now given color and reassembled in an yet another final ASSEMBLY as needed and put into a drawing.
Through Inventor 2011 this worked well.
In Inventor 2012 the color is disapering as soon as any change is made on a source part.
1 Changing the color does not work.
2 In the derived from Assembly, opening up (in the browser) the individual .ipt's and right clicking and clicking properties and changing the color only stays until the next change to the source prt.
3 Changing EACH individual face by right click, properties and setting the FACE PROPERTIES from "as feature" to "as part" does work, but is ridiculous to change hundreds of faces on each part. (especially considering we did NOT need this step in 2011)
Is there a switch in the registry (to turn off the standard “as feature” to the parts face).
Inventor 2012
Windows 7 64, 6gb RAM, Nvidia 4000
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Jun 11, 2012
I've created two similar but different base files.
I've derived each into parts that have a few different features.
In both cases, step exports of the base solid are fine but exports of the unique parts are empty.
Step exports of their assemblies are complete except for these parts.
Sat exports work fine for both parts and assemblies.
It happens in 2012 SP2 and 2013.
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Feb 8, 2013
I have a part that was derived from an assembly. However now I need to make this part have different center dimensions. Is there a way to make a derived part into an iPart without creating more parts? see attachment.
I am using Inventor 2012. BTW the part is more detailed than I am showing in the attachment.
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Jun 24, 2013
I´m trying to access ComponentDefinition.ReferenceComponents.DerivedPartComponents using Apprentice Server but it tells me "Not implemented". Is there any other way to figure out whether a component is derived or not?
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Dec 13, 2013
Luckely 2014 works with service pack 1. Now i have another problem:
on school they have 2013, and i have 2014. But I tried to open a part made in a 2014 version. I think this program is expensive enough that they won't make different part versions .
i can open parts made on 2013
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Sep 10, 2013
I was making some pieces in Inventor 2013, and a lot of them had similar bases, so I would just use the derive button when I started a new piece, and just make changes to the old piece. I later saved the files as .stl 's to print them in the 3D printer. when the computer hooked up to the 3D printer brought up the pieces, the parts I had derived from the original were missing.
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Jul 12, 2012
I double click to update my parts list, when I select apply or ok, the updates do not happen.
I have to close Inventor and re-open to see the changes.
Windows 7 64-bit
Autodesk Design Suite Premium 2013
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Nov 27, 2012
How is it possible to have a part in an assembly and then remove it when it is not required?
I have a Skeletal assembly of a cabinet with hinges on the left hand side when facing the front. When a customer requires the hinges to be on the right hand side, I need to make the lock keep disappear from the Right hand side panel sub-assembly and make it appear in the Left hand panel sub-assembly.
At the moment, I have the lock keep, the BOM structure in the file is Normal, this is overidden in the assembly to being Reference for the first instance, the lock keep is fully constrained in both sub assemblies and both are in an array of only 1. I increase the value of the array from 1 to 2 and by a distance of zero(0), the newly added part would have a BOM structure of Normal, consequently it would then appear on the BOM. This method was something I last used when using IV2009, it was a method I used to control both visibility of parts in assembly drawings and on BOMs.
I'm now using 2013 and arraying a part with a overidden BOM structure of Reference makes the new part a reference part aswell even though the file itself is BOM structure of Normal.
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Aug 10, 2012
I have a drawing with views and I made a parts list from the main view to be structured. Is there a way to create another parts list with different options or delete it and create a different one? If I do delete it and create a new one the options are greyed out. Is there a way to delete this or change it?
Dell t1500 i7 8 gb ram
Windows 7 64 bit
ati firepro v4800
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Jul 24, 2012
In autodesk inventor 2013 is there a file format (for example .igs, stl, solid works format, catia, pro/E format, etc) that when imported into inventor will appear with its detailed history tree? for example if I try to import a solid works part into inventor 2013 will it appear as one block or will it have its history tree showing the original sketch and other features that were used to make it? If all imported parts will appear as blocks in inventor 2013 regardless of there format, does this latest version of the software have tools similar to direct modeling software (such as KeyCreator) that make it easy to make changes to the 3D imported part, without having to completely remake the part in inventor? Are such tools in the inventor fusion 2013 software instead?
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Jun 7, 2012
So there seems to be a problem with the multi body part functions in 2013.
Once you create a multi body, or a multi body feature, and then try to go back and edit it you can no longer select difference bodies.
A little more digging and it almost seems like the problem is that you can not use "ctrl" to multi select bodies.
Inventor Pro 2014 SP1
Vault Pro 2014
Windows 7 x64
2.53 Xeon
Quadro FX 3800
24GB RAM
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Feb 28, 2013
I am having trouble with mass prop exporting to sheemetal parts. It did work for 2012 now its not happening iv2013. service pak 1.1
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Jun 10, 2012
I had resized the File>Open dialog in Inventor. I had resized it so that it was quite large so I realized pretty quickly when I opened another file, that the window size had rest to its original size.
What I found was that if I export a parts list to excel, then go to File>Open, for some reason the size of my file>open dialog is cleared.
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Aug 13, 2013
I was wondering if there is a way to bend a derived componet. I have an odd extruded part and would like to cut and bend it. I want to do it this way so I can also include the cut length before bend. I know of frame generator, but am not able to use it since if falls out of the structure of how our files are saved.
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Nov 6, 2011
Now I want to know how to exclude derived parameters of an assembly and of occurrences in this assembly.
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Aug 21, 2013
After I have created new part by derive from assembly, it have some part moved don’t likely assembly master.
I’m used inventor 2013 with windows 7 (64 bits)
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Jul 17, 2013
is it possible to get the material of the derived part in vba ?
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Nov 10, 2011
I've got a sketch in a part that I want to derive into its own part and place in an assembly. I can do that no problem, but the text on the sketch is just empty boxes. Is there any way to bring the text through to the derived part?
The text is orientation information that I want in both the part and the assembly, not for permanent display but just to hover and display or switch on when needed. Maybe there's a better way of doing it if what I'm asking for is impossible.
IV2013
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Apr 11, 2006
We have written an add-in that allows you to specify position and non-uniform scaling while creating a derived part.
[URL]
Some potential uses of this add-in include:
1.. To simulate an iFeature where you add or remove material - use Sculpt to add and Split to remove material. Unlike iFeature you could edit the source and make the changes be reflected in the derived part.
2.. To simulate an iFeature that places a sketch - useful for designing frames.
3.. To design a progressive die - you might want to place, with relative displacements, multiple parts representing different stages (or configurations) of a formed sheet metal part
4.. To realign (rotate) a part - sometimes skeletally driven parts (for example, four-bar linkage members) are not aligned with their "natural" coordinate system, causing skewed drawing views
5.. To derive a part with different scaling factors in X, Y and Z directions, which is useful in mold design
6.. To integrate two skeleton systems that do not share the same coordinate system
7.. To create scaled sketches (this should become useable after R11 SP1)
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Sep 27, 2011
Possible to have more than 1 derived part in a part.
And is it possible to select on which plane and location the derived part is to be?
I have a part with a derived part but now I want to add another part to it. is this possible?
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Jul 19, 2012
I have a vba project that can extract an assembly BOM.
However, it does not output derived parts. What is wrong with my code, shown in the attached file?
What I am trying to do is create a ipt file of a "Laser-Cut" component. Use this component to make another component with drilled, tapped holes in it. Then use this plate, containing the drilled and tapped holes in an assembly.
I need to output this "Laser-Cut" part in my vba created BOM. Is it possible?
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Jan 28, 2013
I would like to be able to add iproperty values to a derived part from the assembly..!
Breaking it down..:
When i run the rule, it creates a derived part from the Assembly i have open.
The iproperties from the assembly should be copied to the new Derived Part. or just set direclty from the rule, doesn't matter...
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