AutoCAD Inventor :: Add User Parameters To Parts Using External Rules
Feb 25, 2013
I have a large collection of parts that are controlled from an exteranl rule. I need to make slight changes to the external rule, but for the changes to be successful I need two extra user parameters to be added to each of the parts. There are hundreds of parts, so going in and adding the two parameters to each would take days.
Is there a simple way of getting the external rule to add the two parameters?
P.s. My VB skills are pretty limited, but my understanding of iLogic is pretty good.
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Aug 30, 2013
I need import all new params, rules and forms from a new template to older parts. I'm trying to use an external rule to create a new iproperties and import params from xml file but I can't assign these parameters with these iproperties.
I attach the code.
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Apr 1, 2012
I am trying to build a set of scripts (aka iLogic rules) into templates. So far, quite a common task. One extra requirement is that the scripts need to be updatable after parts have been instanciated from the template. That is, we do not want to update all of the ipt each time a new material option is added to the script. That means that external rules are the only way to go, right? This is the road I tried and it seems to work on my machine.
One extra requirement is that the whole project must be shared between several workstations. We went the Subversion road for that (for all the Vault comments). The scripts are distributed properly and in the same absolute location on the two test machines, all good (I checked the md5 on both side and they all match). The application options on all the machines are all set the same way (export the xml file, check it in the source control, import on all the machines restart). The iLogic search path is also updated, but manually this time, since it is not included in the application options export. It should all work perfectly right? Well, sort of....
I did create a tiny assembly from the templates. On my source machine, all looks good. The ilogic rules are both listed in the ilogic browser and the triggers are set when I instanciate from the template. This is the intended behavior. Now, I close inventor, copy the whole directory to a new machine, open inventor there and open the project. The rules do not appear anymore in the browser, but they are still listed in the trigger list (wtf?). The best part is that if I do not touch anything, stuff still works! The scripts are found and run properly!! Now, if I have to change the triggers or even find the rule in the browser to run it manually, well, bad-stuff-happens (tm).
All the files in question are indentical on both machines, the ilogic files, the ipt files, the application options export, all with the same hash. The ilogic search path is also set the same as are the absolute paths. It should work the same (tm).
Me sending a copy of the files is not likely to work though. Since the problem happens when you copy. I could try to "pack and go", but that would break reason #1 for doing that, which is keeping only one version of the script and adding materials at only one place for all the projects.
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Jul 31, 2013
I have a dedicated folder for external rules on a network. In the Advanced ilogic configuration interface on my machine I added the path to this folder in the External rule directories.That seemed to work fine. I opened the ilogic tree activated the external tab and the external rules were available for selection.
Today I tried to do the same process however no rules were visible under the external tab. I had to select "add external rule" and navigate to the folder.I do not want my users to have to manually navigate to the folder. Is there a step i have missed in this process? I am using Inventor/ilogic 2009.
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Apr 29, 2013
I have some assemblies that are made of iLogic parts. The code within the assemblies causes a common external rule to run in each of the parts to update the part's metadata (descriptions, part numbers ect.) to relect any changes to the part.
However, when a change is made to the assembly, not all the parts are effected and yet my code will still run the external rule within the uneffected parts. This slows things down some, but more problematic is the fact that the uneffected parts need to be checked out/revised, even though they themselves haven't changed.
Is there a way of reorganising my code so that external rules are only run in parts that are effected by the assembly change?
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Nov 5, 2013
I am tying to set my sheet metal rules for parts in my assembly that have differnt materials and I would like the control to be at the assembly level. Is this posssible? I am relatively new to iLogic aand have been trying to figure this out on my own for a couple of days now.
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Aug 10, 2012
I made an Part with iLogic rules, let's call it "iLogicPart". The rules inside could create lot of different part by my input.
I want save the different parts to different name as "Part 1", "Part 2", etc. I used SaveAs to get them.
My question is: I want to delete all rules and parameters in the saved parts as "Part 1", "Part 2". And I have lot of features (the name is hard to track) which are inactive, I want to delete them at same time too.
I could manually do so, but I want to use rule to do so automatically.
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Apr 23, 2012
I need to copy about 15 user parameters from 1 part to about 300 others. I used the DA to copy the iproperties but the user parameters are also needed.
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Jul 18, 2005
Is there a way to create user parameter as TEXT Paramters does not accept the text paramaters . we always have tor create parameters as numbers.
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Feb 25, 2013
Is it possible to add a user parameter into a general table in a drawing?
Example:
If I create a multi value text parameter called "Design", and give it two values "open" & "closed". Is there a way to add the chosen value into a general table on the drawing.
Autodesk Product Design Suite 2013
Win 7 Professional 32bit
Intel(R) Xeon(R) W3565 @ 3.2GHz QC
4.0 GB Ram
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Aug 22, 2011
We are trying to add reference lines to the idw drawing for a sub-assembly. These lines represent centerlines of parts of the main assembly. The main assembly is not the reference file for the drawing. However, the required dimension setting the centerlines is a User Parameter in the sub-assembly. (The centerlines are represented by work planes in the sub-assembly file). Using iLogic, we were able to populate the User Parameter from the sub-assembly into the idw file. We can see it as a User Parameter in the idw file. However, when we go into sketch mode the User Parameter is not an option. In sketch mode, we pull a dimension between the two centerlines (d4). When you look at the parameters d4 does not exist so we cannot set d4 equal to our User Parameter (and we've looked there are no filters on). We need this dimension to be able to adjust as the length of the sub-assembly adjusts for different cases. Each case is unique and done on a job by job basis.
There are several places in our drawings where being able to place reference lines and set their relationship to the part would be very useful.
1. Why are the User Parameters not available for use in sketch mode on a drawing?
2. Why can the dimension IDs (ex. d4) not be seen by looking at the parameters?
3. alternative way of putting reference lines on a drawing?
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Apr 10, 2013
I work with Inventor 2011.
It is possible to sort Parameters (user parameters) by code (simulating a click on column header) ?
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Aug 3, 2011
How can you access user-defined parameters/function defined in the Parameters Manager dialog?
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Jul 19, 2013
I made an assembly that adjusted to sized based on some key parameters. These key parameters are controlled by a form in the main assembly. The keys parameters actually adjust the skeleton file, which then drives the frame, then all the parts are adjusted.
after changing these parameters all necessary parts would adjust to size and keep the location constraints. Worked quite well.
The issue now is that, we adopted a new naming convention and this assembly requires all the part files to be renamed. I meticulously saved each part as their new name and then replaced each component in the main assembly. This worked to an extent. The problem that I am facing is that when I saved each part as there new name, the new part retained the linked parameters to the old part. Is there a way to change this link to the newly name skeleton file?
I looked into design assistant for this process as well, but the only changes I think available were to add a prefix or suffix. If worse comes to worse, I can remodel this project but, I am sure there has to be a way to alter this.
attached is a single part with those parameters in the image above.
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Jul 11, 2012
I have a part with very irregular shape created by projecting geometry of other parts.
I wondered if there is any way of calculating area of this extrusion instead of dimensioning the sketch and creating equasions in user parameters?
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May 1, 2013
I have an IPart with about 100 instances in it that is sheet metal. I created a user parameter for the gauge of the sheet metal relating to the thickness and that works fine in the ipart. My dilema is how to get the gauge to show up in my drawing in the general table. Pretty much I woud like the table to list part number, material and then have a column for the gauge of the steel related to the thickness in the Ipart table. I am using Inventor 2011 if that makes a difference.
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Dec 8, 2011
I have some parts with varies User Parameters that allow cusomization of part features. With numeric user paremeters we can check the export parameter box and then, in the description of the part we can refrence that parameter. For instance the description could be: =Width <Width>, Height <Height>, etc. Where it would desplay as Discription: width 22in, height 12".
We also have text User parameters. Is there a way to add these parameters to the description as well? They do not have the option of checking the export parameter box in the parameters table.
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May 21, 2012
I would like to have a rule that will add specific user parameters to a part file. These parameters need to be formatted so the width, depth and thickness will control the description of the part.
IE:
Width=4
Depth=2
Thickness=3/16
DESCRIPTION = TS <Width>X<Depth>X<Thickness>
I would like to format each parameter so that the:
Format=Fractional
Precision=1/16
Unit string=False
This is what I have so far:
oMyParameter=ThisApplication.ActiveDocument.ComponentDefinition.Parameters.UserParameters
oParameter=oMyParameter.AddByExpression("Width", "TOP_RAIL_WIDTH", UnitsTypeEnum.kInchLengthUnits)
oParameter.ExposedAsProperty=True
oParameter.Units="in"
[Code]...
The TOP_RAIL parameters are from a linked file.
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Nov 21, 2012
I am trying to export a user parameter that is a text string to a custom I property. I am able to export other parameters to custom properties that are numarical values. I export check box is missing on the text user parameter.
Is there a way to acomplish this with I-logic?
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Dec 4, 2013
Can we set some rules between parameters in Dynamic blocks?
see the attached file. I want to move the point "A" according to a ratio of the applied stretch. To make it simple, try to keep the the point "A" always in the middle after applying stretch on the dynamic block.
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Aug 31, 2011
I want to change 'mutil value select" to "custom value input" in ilogic user parameters. something like this:
if condition A then
multivalue.setlist("length", 1,2,3,4,5)
else
(users can enter any value they want, how can i remove the list first and set it to custom value input?)
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Nov 6, 2013
So i have a box with a left side, right side, top, bottom and a door in an assembly.I've linked all the parameters to the 'right side component' so that when i change it, it updates all the other parts in the assembly.
What I want to accomplish is to be able to use my BASE SIZED BOX ( say 500 x 500 ) to create many different sized boxes.The problem I have is when I save the assembly as a new one and save and replace all the components for the bigger box, all the components still reference the old part ( 500 x 500 right side component) instead of the bigger ( 600 x 600 right side component.
how to link parameters, don't know ilogic, and just know the basics of assemblies and part modeling.
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Dec 13, 2011
I have linked my inventor drawing to excel to adjust some parameters. Is it also possible to have a enable/disable function in excel so a part in an assembly can be disabled at will?
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Sep 20, 2012
As a recent convert from ProEngineer to Inventor, if it is possible to vary the parameters exported from the source model in the derived part. The following article (see link below) explains the functionality in ProE - note the ability to see the model tree of the source part and also the ability to have varied items (dimensions, suppress features etc.) URL.....
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Aug 15, 2013
How can I drive parts from an assembly level without using Excel spreadsheets. I know it is possible using iLogic to do it, but I can't figure out how to do it "automatically".
For example, we would like to drive a conveyor roller without the use of a spreadsheet. I figured out I could simply insert user-driven parameters in the top-level assembly and drive the parts with the parameters in the assembly, but it is telling me it would cause a cyclic redundancy, so I cannot do it this way, then I thought about iLogic.
It is currently working OK, but I have to enter in the iLogic rule to manually change the filenames in the rule for it to work.
Why? Mainly because we use a prefix to our parts and we sometimes use Autodesk Vault, sometimes not (depending on the project).
Here is my example;
I have a part named "Tube.ipt", "Bearing.ipt", "Spring.ipt" and "Tige Hexagonale.ipt" along with this code in the assembly level (Rouleau.iam):
Parameter("Spring:1", "GAGE") = WIRE_SPRING
Parameter("Spring:1", "DE") = OD_SPRING
Parameter("Spring:1", "LONGUEUR") = LENGHT_SPRING
Parameter("Tube:1", "LONGUEUR_TUBE") = RL-Parameter("Bearing:1", "EPAULEMENT")-Parameter("Bearing:1", "EPAULEMENT")
Parameter("Tige hexagonale:1", "LONGUEUR_HEXA") = RL+B+B
Parameter("Tige hexagonale:1", "BOSSE_SPRING") = B+0.010 in+Parameter("Bearing:1", "EPAULEMENT_SPRING")+LENGHT_SPRING+WIRE_SPRING
Parameter("Tige hexagonale:1", "BOSSE_BEARING") = B+0.010 in+Parameter("Bearing:1", "EPAULEMENT_SPRING")
As you may see, I would have to change "Tige hexagonale:1" every time we use this assembly on different project for it to update properly. I would like to automate it a little bit more.
How to make it work in iLogic:Search for something that has "Tube" in it's filename in this assembly, then store it into a variable called "Tube" Repeat this step for "Spring" and "Tige" Then replace "tige hexagonale:1" by the variable or something like this...
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Mar 4, 2013
I am attempting to reverse engineer a Slap Chop for a school project. Being only an amatuer at Inventor, I have made several parts that need to fit together but don't due to erronious measurements. Attached are three of the parts I have so far, and I will make a few replies with the remaining parts. I am trying to make an excel sheet or some table where I can manage all my parameters and have them update in the parts. The table is simply to make it easier for me to quickly check my dimensions.
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If I have parts in an assembly that would like to use the same parameter, what is the best way to do this? I am using AI 2013. Currently I know how to create a base part and using it to derive other parts from it, but this seems there should be a easier way, is there?
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How do you select parameters for export in parts that have already been published?
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I have drawn a cylinder, with inside diameter 1028mm, wall thickness 5mm. We usually have calculated unfolded part length like this: outside dim. 1038mm - 5mm (wall thickness) = 1032 x 3,14 = 3240mm. Now when i unfold in inventor I get for the length 3215,35mm. It is quite far from the result we usually would have received.
Unfolded part will be rolled to cylinder. What parameters should be overlooked when making unfolded parts for plate rolling?
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Oct 12, 2011
When I add parameters to Excel, the new parameters do not show up in the linked parts. Even when starting
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I am finally getting time to do some organizational cleanup and management with our templates and vault settings. Many of the things are items that I am altering for each drawing/model I make and I would like to make them "stick" for the company standards. Things like altering font size in the styles library, adding part dimensions to the parameters for the parts list, and creating a new content central library where our part numbers are already populated for the parts list and the structural shapes have datum planes in the middle rather than just at beginning and end.
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celeron cpu w 4gb RAM and 64 bit system
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