AutoCAD Inventor :: Linking Parameters Between Parts
Nov 6, 2013
So i have a box with a left side, right side, top, bottom and a door in an assembly.I've linked all the parameters to the 'right side component' so that when i change it, it updates all the other parts in the assembly.
What I want to accomplish is to be able to use my BASE SIZED BOX ( say 500 x 500 ) to create many different sized boxes.The problem I have is when I save the assembly as a new one and save and replace all the components for the bigger box, all the components still reference the old part ( 500 x 500 right side component) instead of the bigger ( 600 x 600 right side component.
how to link parameters, don't know ilogic, and just know the basics of assemblies and part modeling.
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Oct 13, 2011
Is there an easy way to remember how to correctly link parameters between 3 or more files? It seems like such a confusing way to do such a simple task. I am going into the parameters of each file and linking or deriving other file properties. Currently I don't have a dummy part file that controls all of the parameters. Maybe that's part of it. I've never done this using excel. Would this be any easier? I am just frustrated with the way I know how and wish there was an easier way to go about it. I keep getting the cyclic dependency warning and somewhat understand what this means, how why it's happening (or how to correct it).
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Jul 15, 2012
I want to link the thickness of the material used for a steel structure of to the offset of another steel structure that attaches to that it. I want to be able to change the size and material used for the frame and not have to continually change the offset of the piece attached to it. Is there a way to lind the thickness of one bar to the offset of another?
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Sep 21, 2011
Im wondering if its possible to link either a constraint dimension to an action parameter or vice versa. Or using a linear parameter's value in an user parameter formula.
Its a 2D cylinder, for winding purposes we just have a rectangle, with a distance from the Y axis for radial.
Parametric dimensions: B=thickness, C=Lenght, R=radius
User parameter: A=Diameter (R*2), Mass in kg ((((pi*(c*b))*(A+B))*1.25)/1000)/1000
For the BOM, i need A, B, C & mass
For drawing references for peoples on the floor, to distinquish a cylinder from a stick, we put lines at the top and bottom of the cylinder, 1mm distance inbetween them.
I figured that making a linear parameter + stretch on the thickness to replace the B parametric dimension, allowed me to make an array of that line, with increments of 1mm as i stretch the cylinder. The thing is that the mass formula cant take the value of action parameters....
Other alternative is to keep the B parametric dimension, and add a linear parameter as above for the array. But then i have 2 places to adjust, and from a test i made, if i change the R dimension, the linear one does not follow. Its very frustrating.
What i was hoping autocad would be able to do is distance1 for array to be same as B dimension, but it does not allow me to do that, unless im missing something.
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Mar 2, 2012
I dont know if this is possible or not. What it is, is that we use skeletal modelling, so we use intelligent "master sketches". Now we are just starting to use frame generator also and we want to combine the 2 methods.
An example of how we work is this.......
Lets say, we are designing the base of a basic frame. Now, we sketch in the profile of the RHS that will run along the front of the base and we also sketch in the elevation view of this RHS (see snip 1). This gives us 2 sketches to derive in to create a new part of RHS.
If I change the size of the profile of the RHS within the "master sketch" the newly created RHS part will update to suit. This also applies if I change the length of the RHS within the elevation view within the "master sketch".
So, now we want to add in a 5mm thick plate that sits flush with the top of the RHS, we sketch in a 3mm thick rectangle and make the top line colinear with the top line of the RHS profile sketch (see snip 2). We would then derive through these sketches and use them to create this plate as an ipt.
So now we have 2 parts, 1 length of RHS and 1 piece of plate. If we place these to parts into an assembly and ground them to their "root" then the plate will be sitting flush with the top of the RHS.
If I change the profile of the RHS to 50mm taller in the sketch, then the plate will move up to suit and stay flush with the RHS in the assembly.
NOW, what we want is to use frame generaotor along side this method. Instead of deriving through the first 2 sketches to create the the RHS, we want to create the RHS using frame generator and the elevation sketch BUT what we also want is when we change the profile sketch of the RHS, the Frame generator generated part updates to suit the altered sketch. The reason we want this is because we control all our full assemblies using sketches.
Lets take the same bunch of aforementioned sketches and create the parts using FG.
So I have the RHS profile sketched out at 100x50 and the plate sketch sits colinear with the top of this.
I then go through the motions to create the RHS within FG.
I choose RHS from the drop down menu, then choose 100x50 from the "size" drop down menu. I then use the elevation sketch to specify the length.
Now if I increase the size of the RHS (to 150x50) within the sketch, the plate will move up to suit BUT the actual part of the RHS which was created using FG will still stay the same size (100x50), and the plate will be shown as floating within the assembly!!!
If I do it the other way, i.e. change the size fo the RHS within FG, then the sketch will still show the original size and the plate will still sit flush with this original size. This will show the plate as sitting too low in the assembly!!!
Is there anyway at all, that we can link the profile sketch dimensions to the FG generated parts, so that if we edit the profile size of the RHS to a larger or smaller size then FG will automatically alter the generated part to suit the profile sketch???
Is this at all possible???? Or will we just have to alter both the sketch AND the FG part? We really don't want to use adaptive parts within our assembly, we always just control our assemblies with our "master sketches".
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Dec 13, 2011
I have linked my inventor drawing to excel to adjust some parameters. Is it also possible to have a enable/disable function in excel so a part in an assembly can be disabled at will?
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Sep 20, 2012
As a recent convert from ProEngineer to Inventor, if it is possible to vary the parameters exported from the source model in the derived part. The following article (see link below) explains the functionality in ProE - note the ability to see the model tree of the source part and also the ability to have varied items (dimensions, suppress features etc.) URL.....
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Aug 15, 2013
How can I drive parts from an assembly level without using Excel spreadsheets. I know it is possible using iLogic to do it, but I can't figure out how to do it "automatically".
For example, we would like to drive a conveyor roller without the use of a spreadsheet. I figured out I could simply insert user-driven parameters in the top-level assembly and drive the parts with the parameters in the assembly, but it is telling me it would cause a cyclic redundancy, so I cannot do it this way, then I thought about iLogic.
It is currently working OK, but I have to enter in the iLogic rule to manually change the filenames in the rule for it to work.
Why? Mainly because we use a prefix to our parts and we sometimes use Autodesk Vault, sometimes not (depending on the project).
Here is my example;
I have a part named "Tube.ipt", "Bearing.ipt", "Spring.ipt" and "Tige Hexagonale.ipt" along with this code in the assembly level (Rouleau.iam):
Parameter("Spring:1", "GAGE") = WIRE_SPRING
Parameter("Spring:1", "DE") = OD_SPRING
Parameter("Spring:1", "LONGUEUR") = LENGHT_SPRING
Parameter("Tube:1", "LONGUEUR_TUBE") = RL-Parameter("Bearing:1", "EPAULEMENT")-Parameter("Bearing:1", "EPAULEMENT")
Parameter("Tige hexagonale:1", "LONGUEUR_HEXA") = RL+B+B
Parameter("Tige hexagonale:1", "BOSSE_SPRING") = B+0.010 in+Parameter("Bearing:1", "EPAULEMENT_SPRING")+LENGHT_SPRING+WIRE_SPRING
Parameter("Tige hexagonale:1", "BOSSE_BEARING") = B+0.010 in+Parameter("Bearing:1", "EPAULEMENT_SPRING")
As you may see, I would have to change "Tige hexagonale:1" every time we use this assembly on different project for it to update properly. I would like to automate it a little bit more.
How to make it work in iLogic:Search for something that has "Tube" in it's filename in this assembly, then store it into a variable called "Tube" Repeat this step for "Spring" and "Tige" Then replace "tige hexagonale:1" by the variable or something like this...
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Mar 4, 2013
I am attempting to reverse engineer a Slap Chop for a school project. Being only an amatuer at Inventor, I have made several parts that need to fit together but don't due to erronious measurements. Attached are three of the parts I have so far, and I will make a few replies with the remaining parts. I am trying to make an excel sheet or some table where I can manage all my parameters and have them update in the parts. The table is simply to make it easier for me to quickly check my dimensions.
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Oct 13, 2012
If I have parts in an assembly that would like to use the same parameter, what is the best way to do this? I am using AI 2013. Currently I know how to create a base part and using it to derive other parts from it, but this seems there should be a easier way, is there?
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Feb 25, 2013
I have a large collection of parts that are controlled from an exteranl rule. I need to make slight changes to the external rule, but for the changes to be successful I need two extra user parameters to be added to each of the parts. There are hundreds of parts, so going in and adding the two parameters to each would take days.
Is there a simple way of getting the external rule to add the two parameters?
P.s. My VB skills are pretty limited, but my understanding of iLogic is pretty good.
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Sep 14, 2006
How do you select parameters for export in parts that have already been published?
I have a part that I have published. There are some parameters that Ii would like to have available to the Parts List upon creation. I don't see a way to do this after the part has been published. I have been able to select the parameters for export before publishing and they will be marked for export when the part is placed form the content Center.2010 Suite-SP4 64bit
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Feb 12, 2013
I have drawn a cylinder, with inside diameter 1028mm, wall thickness 5mm. We usually have calculated unfolded part length like this: outside dim. 1038mm - 5mm (wall thickness) = 1032 x 3,14 = 3240mm. Now when i unfold in inventor I get for the length 3215,35mm. It is quite far from the result we usually would have received.
Unfolded part will be rolled to cylinder. What parameters should be overlooked when making unfolded parts for plate rolling?
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Oct 12, 2011
When I add parameters to Excel, the new parameters do not show up in the linked parts. Even when starting
a new part and linking to the same excel file, the original parameters are all that are shown; not the new ones.
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Apr 29, 2012
I am finally getting time to do some organizational cleanup and management with our templates and vault settings. Many of the things are items that I am altering for each drawing/model I make and I would like to make them "stick" for the company standards. Things like altering font size in the styles library, adding part dimensions to the parameters for the parts list, and creating a new content central library where our part numbers are already populated for the parts list and the structural shapes have datum planes in the middle rather than just at beginning and end.
Inventor Premium 2013 SP1.1
Vault 2013- plain vanilla version
HP G71 notebook
celeron cpu w 4gb RAM and 64 bit system
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Jan 28, 2013
I can publish a part containing a user text parameter to the content centre for use in frame generator however when I go to insert that part an error as per the attached screen shot.
To re-create the error you have to follow the below steps.
Create a part with a text user parameterPublish for use in frame generator.Create frame with the part and an error will be created as per the attached screenshot.
Is there a way to work around this error being created and use parts with text user parameters in Frame Generator?
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Oct 30, 2012
it is possible to make a constraint that utilized a parameter of a part within the assembly.
For example, if I wanted to use the thickness of a plate, which I defined in the part, could I call that parameter in a constraint?
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Sep 29, 2011
I’m having a problem with a part being skewed after it’s been linked to another part. This only happens when the part that it was linked to rotates.
3ds Max 2013/2014
Autodesk Inventor & AutoCAD
HP xw8600 Workstation
Windows 7 64Bit
Dual Intel Xeon 2.83 E5440 GHz
8.00 GB of Ram
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Mar 30, 2012
I've got a Mesh which consists of several Helixes with regular Tubes in between. They are all welded together, so it is one long Mix of Helix and tubes. In Animation, the amount of Turns in each Helix needs to be changed (from 0 Turns, up to 50 e.g.).
First I attached bones to each helix, but strechting the bones only leads to stretch the Helix - not reducing the Turns.
In another attempt, I took a regular Tube with a Path-Deform-Modifier and a helix-spline, so I had good control of the Mesh, by changing the splines-parameters. But since my Mesh consists of several individual helixes, I cant use it cuz i can only select 1 spline in the deformation-modifier.
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Sep 27, 2012
I am trying to replace a custom part - created from a content center part - with a copied part with a different name. (I am using the replace tool in an assembly.) However, Inventor is not replacing the part with the part I pick but rather the content center version of it.
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Mar 30, 2012
On the main sheet of my drawing I have the overall Parts List. Shows almost all parts except for the few that we don't want to list. On the second sheet I inserted a Parts List to show only parts that are shown in a detail on that page, made the rest non-visible.
On the main sheet there is an item (#13) that has a QTY of 3. Two of those Three are optional parts. What I'm trying to do is insert a custom part into the Parts List, give it an item number of 13A and put in the description "OPTIONAL", then do an Override in the balloon to show 13A.
I get it in the Parts List, Apply it, close it, save the drawing. Looking at the Parts List, item #13A is there, but item #14 is gone. I go back into the Parts List and 13A is there and there's a blue box around the item # and the description. I uncheck Static Value and number 14 shows up (item # and the description).
Then I go over to sheet two, open that Parts List and it lists 13A at the bottom with all the info I added in sheet one and it's non-visible. Go back to sheet one, open the Parts List and there is no 13A to be found.
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May 2, 2013
I am working on an assembly that is designed around a box (bounding box) that could change size. I modeled the bounding box and placed it in a new assembly file. All other parts have been created within the assembly by referencing that bounding box with starting work plane and project geometry.
The problem comes in when I change the bounding box dimensions. The work planes for each additional part, which were defined by the faces of the bounding box, do not move when the sides move. Also, my projected geometry is not updating correctly. This is a simple box, with all 90° corners. So, all associated parts (at this point) are just rectangles.
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Aug 21, 2012
My parts list on my idw do not update when I make changes to the model. Specifically, I have deleted a bolted connection on my design and replaced with a different components but the parts list table does not update - all I see is a lightning bolt in the browser next to the parts list but I cannot update it here.
Autodesk Inventor Professional 2013 SP2 64-Bit Edition
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12.0GB RAM, ATI FirePro V4800 (FireGL)
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Aug 7, 2013
I was using virtual parts to add nuts and bolts to a drawing in 2013
I can make a VP bolt in the assembly, no problem, set it's size, weight, etc.
In the VP itself, there is no option for number of bolts I want it to emulate. For arguement's sake the weight was 1 pound per bolt (they are big bolts).
I can go into the BOM and say quantity 60, hit done and save the assembly.
If i open the drawing, the parts lists shows 60lbs for the 60 bolts total - which it should when summing the weight.
The problem is the BOM/assembly. If the weight of my assembly (without bolts) is 10,000lbs, the assembly sees the VP weighing 1lb and says the total weight is 10,001 lbs. Am i going to have to pattern a fake part to get this to work right? Shouldn't the total weight take into account the quantity set in the Bom??
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Dec 9, 2013
Is there a way to display the density of materials that are assigned to varius parts in the parts list on a drawing? I don't need the mass of the parts I just need the material density to show up next to their respective parts.
For example, if I have a part with [steel mild] material assinged to it (no matter the size) I need a column in the BOM on the drawing to show: 490.684 lbs/ft^3. "Worry when there's something to worry about."
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Jul 10, 2012
I have an assembly with a lot of purchased parts. I need to create a buy out list for purchasing. I've done this many times in the past and have a template set up for this purpose.
So now the problem, In this assembly, I have subassemblies showing up on my parts only parts list.
One of the subassemblies cinsists of two purchased parts. Both parts are set to purchased in the Bill of materials. If I do a parts only list on this assembly, it works as expected, showing two purchased parts. However, if I put that assembly into a higher level assembly, A parts only parts list shows the assembly instead of the individual parts.
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May 3, 2013
IV 2010 Suite
Been working over an idw MANY times due to project lag.Today I opened it up and tried adding balloons to an already ballooned assembly.
The parts list has not changed, and is "structured".But, if I try adding balloons, they tag each part, not the entire assembly.
Also, I verified this by trying to add another parts list, which defaults to "parts only".
I can't show my data set, b/c it's HUGE, plus it's proprietary.
IV 2010 Suite
Digital Storm PC:
EVGA & Intel components
Win 7 Pro 64 bit
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Sep 22, 2011
I have a .idw that I'm trying to make a parts list on. I select parts list and highlight everything. There are two screws that are not showing up on the parts list. I cannot select them manually either. It's acting like they are not there. Even if I do a complete parts list (adding the assemblies parts into one big list), they still don't show up.
How can I select these parts? What is wrong with them that they do not show up in the parts list?
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Jul 25, 2012
I have been working with an assembly today where it is ideal to mirror parts and have figured out how to reuse the parts rather than create new parts. Now I find that when the parts are mirrored, they ate not retaining the mates. Where do I find the setting so they either retain their mates, or prefferably retain the mirror so that if I move the origional, the mirror moves as well?
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Mar 3, 2012
I am linking a model to an excel spreadsheet. Normally you would specify what cell on the first sheet (Sheet1) to start in. I have been told that you can link to other sheets in the workbook as well. Is this possible? I have tried, but have not been successful. If it is possible, how is it done?
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Oct 1, 2012
Basically what I am trying to do is link the length of a flange on one part to a different part. Am I able to take the dimension from another part and say I want this flange to be a certain length plus the seperate part dimension?
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