AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Data References Cause Program To Freeze
Apr 5, 2012
We just discovered data at our office, and I am pretty stoked about them 90% of the time. We do have one problem with them though. We are doing a small road, with 10 or so alignments and a few pipe networks of 40 pipes and structures. 1 surface, and that is about it. I made a cross sections sheet with our design file xrefed and data references to everything in it. Now it won't open. I can copy it to my local hard drive, run a recover, and then open it, save it back, add in all the data references and redo labels, but I can't open it from there.
Is there some way to have it open without syncing?
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Dec 3, 2012
How do you sort data references?
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Civil 3D 2012 (64)
Windows 7 Pro (64) SP1, 16 GB
AMD Radeon HD 6900
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Jul 8, 2013
Possible to open a drawing that was created with AutoCad Civil3D 2011 and create all of your Civil objects and data references if it is a bad idea to then open it at a later date in AutoCad Civil as Autocad 2011. Does this effect any of the data in the drawing. It has been recommended here that we do this for making minor line/text edits as some folks have slower computers that cant handle the civil side of the program.
why we are constantly facing corrupt drawing files that lose references.
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Jul 8, 2013
A co-worked has made a mention of "Reference Alignments not found in Reference Drawing" error message popping up multiple times this morning and said he thinks it is a trendd in many drawings that have been worked on. In my experience this message pops up if you move the location of the reference drawing, or change the name of the alignment without synchronizing.
The issue is it has been said that this is fatal erroring the drawings.
I have not worked on the project myself and am just relaying what i heard-
I know this is a very vague question, we have 2011 Civil 3d
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Feb 9, 2013
Is it possible to create more than one data reference at a time?
I have approximately 30 alignments with over 100 profiles in my profile design drawing. The interface to create the data shortcuts allows me to do so by selecting multiple alignments and profiles. This works well and is efficient. To create the data references I have to create the reference for each alignment and profile one at time. I estimate this will take at least 30 minutes.
I am using Civil 3D 2012.
Civil 3D 2012 SP3 | Win 7 64-bit SP1
Xeon E5-1620 @ 3.60GHz, 16GB Ram | NVidia Quadro 600
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Nov 17, 2013
We recently started using Civil3d 2013. We made a huge jump from LDD 2008. We have profiles designed and data short cuts are created. We have existing and proposed.
Now i've created a reference and brought them into another drawing. First I tried to set up the color and linetype for each profile. When I do this. Both the existing and proposed become the same color and linetype.I do not see how to select the existing from the proposed and set the color and linetype.
Next I select the proposed profile and right click and select Edit Labels. I start to create the PVI labels. When I do this the PVI's for the existing profile get labeled. I want the proposed profile labeled. Not the existing.
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Aug 20, 2013
Here is the background.
A "MODEL" drawing exists that contains only the surface model. The surface model is data referenced into a "LABEL" drawing that contains the surface style (contours), contour labels, and spot elevations. This "LABEL" drawing is xref-ed into a "SHEET" drawing that contains the title block and some other xrefs containing the proposed layout, ex cond, etc..
When I open the "LABELS" drawing, the data reference works. My problem is that when I open the "SHEET" drawing, the contour labels and spot elevations cannot find the referenced surface and just contain a string of 20 or so characters.
I already have a workaround. If I open the "SHEET" drawing, then open the "LABELS" drawing and save it, I can reload the "LABELS" drawing within the "SHEET" drawing and the problem is solved.
HOWEVER, I have a bunch of sheets that I want to publish, and publish does not work when you have to open the file and re-reference everything. Is there anyway to get this reference working correctly so that I do not have to open multiple drawings to get my data correct?
FYI, I have already tried resetting my data shortcuts project folder, validating data shortcuts, etc. in the "LABELS" and "SHEET" drawings.
Civil 3D 2012, SP 2.1
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Aug 28, 2013
I am working on roadway project where I am using Pipe Networks to layout the drainage infrastructure. I have set my working dwg up so that I am data referencing the existing surface and proposed alignment. I have set my pipe network up so that it is also referencing this surface and alignment. Everything was working fine. Labels were pulling the correct information from my surface elevations, and stations were being referenced as well, until I got a message that recommended that I recover my drawing.
I ran recover and my surface and alignment data shortcut disappeared. My pipe network now shows questions marks where there were once stationing and it appears that the surface and alignment have completely disassociated themselves from my drawing, however they appear in the prospector, but cannot be refreshed. Again the data shortcut symbol is no longer next to my surface and alignment, but there is a symbol telling me that those objects are being referenced by another object in my drawing (my pipe network). I have tried refreshing, resetting the working folder, all to no avail.
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Nov 26, 2012
I have a data shortcut file where i keep my EG surface that now has File Name.dwg [DS] [DS] [DS] [DS]. What's the deal? Has this managed to morph itself into something it's not. It used to have only one, had two for awhile, and now 4 references to the DS (Datashort cut project folder).
Have I done something wrong here to get these wonky file names, would be nice to see just 1 reference being made to my DS Project folder.
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Mar 30, 2011
There are several drawings that when I try to open I get a popup message "References - Unresolved Reference Files". The message box is clear with only the border and the description in the blue bar at the top of the message box. AutoCad LT 2011 locks up and I have to do a Task kill. The same drawing can be opened by most of our other users, but some experience the same issue. When AutoCad is restarted, I get a "Drawing Recovery" empty/clear popup message message freezing AutoCad AGAIN, requireing another Task kill. I have to open a 3rd time, and if I had another drawing open, it's gone and doesn't appear to be recoverable.
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Feb 28, 2013
Every time I try to hatch a larger area, my AutoCAD 2013 program freezes and I need to close the program and restart it, losing anything I hadn't saved prior to the freeze. In addition, certain areas won't hatch because the program is telling me I have open boundaries which is not the case.
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Jan 31, 2013
I know that data referenced drawings can be included in an eTransmit. However the drefs don't appear to repath when doing so. Any way to promote data references using eTransmit?
For context, we are trying to find a good way to archive all the project files at certain milestones. eTransmit does a good job of gathering up all the files referenced in a sheet set. It appears to repath the acad xrefs but the drefs still refer back to the working model files.
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Oct 22, 2013
Upon opening program it has begun to freeze. I have researched and discovered that I have a file in my catalog lrcat.lock. I have deleted the file and sometimes the program will work normally. Then for no apparent reason it will lock up again upon reopening. I go back to the catalog and the lrcat.lock file is back.
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Aug 15, 2013
I have a recurring problem that I can't seem to figure out. I have my existing grade TIN surface as a data shortcut into my roadway design file, but it sometimes will not update when opening the drawing. The surface profile will not display until the surface is manually synced. Any labels that are associated with that surface (or other object) will just display the ??? because it can't seem to connect to the data. After a manual sync it seems to come back.
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Jun 18, 2012
C3D 2013.Is there a way to search the C3D styles for references to textstyles?
IOW - I know there are references to a certain textstyle in this drawing, how to find it/them without manually inspecting each style?
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Apr 8, 2013
I know the difference between attach and overlay for reference files.
The problem here is that the xref IS attacehd as an overlay and I am still not able to detach it.
I am working on WisDOT transportation plans. For those that are not familiar with these projects, certain reference files must plot black in some plan sections, but grey in others. When we submit the plans to the utility companies, all utilities must be black. but are grey in everyother submittal. I changed the xref level attributes to plot black with the intensions of detaching the xref and reattaching to revert back to the orignial grey level attributes. Is there anyway that changing the level attributes is somehow not letting the xref be detached?
Intel Core i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30 GHz
8.00 GB
64-bit
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Aug 21, 2012
After using Autodesk recommendations for a clean install, remove programs, remove files and remove registry edits I can not delete the file
C:Program FIlesCommon FIlesAutodesk Sharedacsigncore16.dll
How this file is still in use if all Autodesk files and references were removed?
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Dec 30, 2013
URL....I have a jpg file that I needed to apply some transparency to and saved it as a png file. I now want to delete the jpg file but it's being referenced in several drawings, but I don't know which ones. Is there a way to reverse the function of Reference Manager, ie find all the drawing files that reference my jpg file?
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Jun 27, 2013
I'm trying to adjust the properties of some block objects in Mspace. When the file contains external references the function fails, when it has none it works perfectly.
Dim modelSpace As BlockTableRecord = DirectCast(M_trans.GetObject(SymbolUtilityServices.GetBlockModelSpaceId(db), OpenMode.ForRead), BlockTableRecord)
For Each id As ObjectId In modelSpace
Dim ent As Autodesk.AutoCAD.DatabaseServices.Entity = DirectCast(M_trans.GetObject(id, OpenMode.ForWrite), Autodesk.AutoCAD.DatabaseServices.Entity)
ent.Color = Color.FromColorIndex(ColorMethod.ByLayer, 256)
Using the above to get all objectid's and filter through them then using:
If TypeOf ent Is BlockReference Then
Dim br As BlockReference = DirectCast(ent, BlockReference)
Dim btr As BlockTableRecord = DirectCast(M_trans.GetObject(br.BlockTableRecord, OpenMode.ForRead), BlockTableRecord)
If Not btr.IsFromExternalReference Then
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May 11, 2012
I have a file that looks like it is going to open nice and fast and then it gets stuck at 50% synchronizing references. It literally takes over 5 minutes for the file to come completely up and ready to work on.
In the file I have an existing ground surface data reference and two corridors (with alignments, profiles and profiles views) that are basic access roads roughly 1200' long each with a very basic assembly. I also have a pipe network data referenced that is just a bunch of pipes that represent existing utilities crossing the access road so I can show them in cross sections. The final thing I have in here are 50' cross sections for each of these access roads.
why does it take me 5+ minutes to get into this file?
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Apr 24, 2012
I have a master shape file that contains parcel ID, owner, tax info., etc. I have another file ( access 2003 -open to better file format suggestions-) which contains parcel ID and a "yes" or " no" entry for whether or not the parcel needs a new water meter. All I want to do is add the water meter information into the other shape file. This would create one shape file with one table with all the information that I need.
Ultimately I will use the information to do a map query and find out spatially where i need new water meters.
Right now i have the master shape file connected though the “Connect to Data” feature. I also have the new data added to the drawing though the Data sources------>attach under the “Map Explorer” Task pane. I attached access file (ver. 2003 .mdb) which has two columns “Parcel ID” and “Meter”.
I right click on the shape file under the display manager and select”Create a Join;” however my water meter table is not listed as an option. Will this not work?
Plan B - I tried to Create and connect to the access file as an ODBC connection. Followed this guy’s directions to a T [URL]. But when i populate my table under the fdo connection the column headings exist ( “parcel ID” and “Meter”) but the actual data is missing. Am I missing something important?
Note: I am running c3d 2012 on a Win 7 64 Bit machine. I also removed office 32 bit apps and installed 64 bit apps to see if that would solve the problem. No go.
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Apr 10, 2013
say you make some parcels in your project with custom data fields like: id_no, permit_no, acres_served etc. you attach an agency provided shape file via an fdo connection that has many fields of information like above.
when you right click on your parcel and do parcel properties you get a tab that lets you input the custom parcel data.
lets say you print an fdo map label showing, say, the id_no, provided in the shape file. Then in your custom parcel properties for id_no you type that in.
is there a way to make an expression to put in the other custom parcel properties that will read, say, the permit_no(id_no) from the fdo like and put that information in the custom parcel property field?
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Jun 7, 2012
I'm having problems getting super elevation data to transfer to different drawings by means of an alignment data shortcut. I know alignments hold the super elevation data so I've gone into my alignments data shortcut, input my super elevation data, saved and closed. Now when I open my finished grade drawing, reference in my alignment and profiles, then create a corridor from that information, my super elevation didn't transfer with the reference.
I pulled cross sections and it appears is has no clue there is any super elevation data. Also, I tried bringing it directly into the drawing I'm doing my corridors in and it erred saying I must be in the parent alignment drawing. Data shortcuts are pretty much useless to me if super elevation data doesn't transfer.
64 bit Windows 7
Intel Xeon (R) @2.8GHz
6.00GB Ram
Civil 3D 2012
Civil 3D 2012
Intel(R) Xeon W3530 @ 2.80GHz
6.00GB Ram
Windows 7 Professional
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Sep 9, 2011
i have created a data band in profile view that should show a created profiles elevation, but some of the the data fields are missing irregulary. Also in the data band that shoud show the diferenece betven the tow profiles - EG and the new profile the data is missing. The EG profiles data and the surface are ok all is shown.
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May 3, 2013
I've just installed Civil3D, 64-bit on windows 7(running on bootcamp) and am trying to insert a georeferenced raster image but have encountered some issues.
1. "Home tab>>Data panel>>>insert An Image" - The data panel is missing and it's also not found in "customize palettes"
2. Trying the data connect route does not work either: Display manager>>>Data>>>Connect To Data - There is no 'Data' option and I cannot connect to Data.
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Dec 4, 2012
I just received a drawing with a bunch of points in it. One of the layer is called V-ROAD-CNTR-PNTS. Unfortunately, the point number, description, and elevation are all in that same layer. How do I keep just the elevation turned on but turn off the point description and number? When I turn off or freeze the layer V-ROAD-CNTR-PTNS, all three disappear. I just need the elevation showing.
Attached is an image of my screen.
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Jan 21, 2013
We have our pipe networks living in a master file that is XREF'd to our sheet files. Now, the pipe and structure objects are all the layer C-PNET. The style for the pipes is comprised of the layers C-STRM-PIPE (for pipe walls) and C-STRM-PIPE-PATT (for the center line that is the width of the pipe). When I go into the XREF I cannot freeze OR change the color of the layers comprising the pipe style even though they are all set to ByLayer in the style dialog. The only way to freeze the network is to freeze the layer the pipe network is on C-PNET. However, this presents other problems with our file setup and we dont want to universally freeze C-PNET.
why we cant freeze the portions of the pipe network that are defined in the style as being on C-STRM-PIPE, and C-STRM-PIPE-PATT? If so, how do we remedy this?
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Apr 27, 2012
i usually get stock at this screen , usually what happen is i click "Continue" and it load the video screen and i start working but now nothing ... just nothing when i had this before i try to restart sometimes work sometimes it's just load me the Autocad 2012 "Non-Civil3D" .
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Mar 13, 2013
I try freezing my proposed storm structures inside Viewport for Existing Conditions sheet. My proposed DI's freeze because they use a block (in structure style). My proposed headwalls use the outer part boundary from catalog. BUT both DI and Headwall Style Component Layers are set to C-STRM-STRC.
In the pic for Existing Conditions Layout, you see a white headwall boundary. In proposed layout, you see a magenta headwall boundary. It's using the Object Layer and not the component layers for the headwall.
I didn't see another way to logically set up Object Layers for Pipes and Structures that contain Existing and Proposed Water, Storm, and Sanitary. My Object Layers have Pipes set to C-UTIL-PIPE and Structures set to C-UTIL-STRC, BUT the Component Layers inside the style are specific. Example: Existing Storm Structures and Pipes have layers such as V-STRM-PIPE and V-STRM-STRC. Proposed Storm would have Component Layers such as C-STRM-PIPE and C-STRM-STRC. The Object Layer for both existing and proposed use C-UTIL-PIPE and C-UTIL-STRC.
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Apr 27, 2012
on a couple of my lager project i have recently had issues with Autodesk Civil 3D 2012 Freezing in Model Space switching between Isometric views. the number of view changes varies each time but seams to freeze during regen of the model.
I have checked the performace tuner and updated my driver, see Attached Log.
We are in the process of changing our CAD Stations over to Windows 7 64 bit, but im not scheduled for a couple more months.
System:
Dell Precision T3400
Windows XP SP3 32 bit
Intel Core2 Quad (Q9550 @ 2.53GHz)
4GB RAM
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Jul 24, 2013
I have a sanitary run manhole to manhole with null structures in between for lats. Each null is named "wye(lot#)" which I really do not need labeled anywhere but grants me the illusion of order and control. When I label the manhole (style uses text for each component) it references the inverts as from adjacent structure the nearest of which is the null. I need it to reference the upstream manhole as the from structure. BMP?
Another issue is the text for each component. There are times when I need to have the manhole label show "INV 8" IN 209.50 Int Drop (MH110)" or "INV 8" IN 208.75 w/ Slide (MH 108)". But as you know if I add to one I add to all. I found a post that discussed editing the xml to do this but my code either looked different than the example or I was looking at it cross eyed. I think if I could add an invert type column to the structure properties pipes tab the text for each component could add it to the label.Is there a better way people have been handling this?
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