AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Drawing Has Disassociated Surface And Alignment Data References
Aug 28, 2013
I am working on roadway project where I am using Pipe Networks to layout the drainage infrastructure. I have set my working dwg up so that I am data referencing the existing surface and proposed alignment. I have set my pipe network up so that it is also referencing this surface and alignment. Everything was working fine. Labels were pulling the correct information from my surface elevations, and stations were being referenced as well, until I got a message that recommended that I recover my drawing.
I ran recover and my surface and alignment data shortcut disappeared. My pipe network now shows questions marks where there were once stationing and it appears that the surface and alignment have completely disassociated themselves from my drawing, however they appear in the prospector, but cannot be refreshed. Again the data shortcut symbol is no longer next to my surface and alignment, but there is a symbol telling me that those objects are being referenced by another object in my drawing (my pipe network). I have tried refreshing, resetting the working folder, all to no avail.
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Oct 25, 2012
is it possible to get the alignment name which the corridor surface is built from when the surface is being data referenced. in other word no corridor as the middleman.
the way i see it is when corridor suface is referenced, it becomes a regular surface and loses some properties such as parent alignment.
i am still using COM. maybe .net can do it? either way works.
Civil 3D 2012
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May 3, 2012
I using a data reference/shortcut to properly label an alignment in paperspace. However when I reference the alignment in and apply the labels the aren't the same as the original alignment that I am referencing. Is there a setting where I am supposed to apply a new beginning station.
Also it seems as though the stationing(distance) isn't even matching up 1:1 with the original drawing. For example in the original base drawing my alignment starts at 10+00 with the next PI at 14+76.98, but the stationing on the reference alignment starts at 0+83.33 with the very same PI being labeled as 1+23.08. So the very same distance is 476.98' in the real design and the drawing it's being referenced in, but the stationing of the referenced alignment shows it as 39.75 Units.
I've attached a screen of the beginning of the alignment.
Civil 3D 2012
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Dec 3, 2012
How do you sort data references?
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Jul 8, 2013
Possible to open a drawing that was created with AutoCad Civil3D 2011 and create all of your Civil objects and data references if it is a bad idea to then open it at a later date in AutoCad Civil as Autocad 2011. Does this effect any of the data in the drawing. It has been recommended here that we do this for making minor line/text edits as some folks have slower computers that cant handle the civil side of the program.
why we are constantly facing corrupt drawing files that lose references.
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Jul 8, 2013
A co-worked has made a mention of "Reference Alignments not found in Reference Drawing" error message popping up multiple times this morning and said he thinks it is a trendd in many drawings that have been worked on. In my experience this message pops up if you move the location of the reference drawing, or change the name of the alignment without synchronizing.
The issue is it has been said that this is fatal erroring the drawings.
I have not worked on the project myself and am just relaying what i heard-
I know this is a very vague question, we have 2011 Civil 3d
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Feb 9, 2013
Is it possible to create more than one data reference at a time?
I have approximately 30 alignments with over 100 profiles in my profile design drawing. The interface to create the data shortcuts allows me to do so by selecting multiple alignments and profiles. This works well and is efficient. To create the data references I have to create the reference for each alignment and profile one at time. I estimate this will take at least 30 minutes.
I am using Civil 3D 2012.
Civil 3D 2012 SP3 | Win 7 64-bit SP1
Xeon E5-1620 @ 3.60GHz, 16GB Ram | NVidia Quadro 600
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Nov 17, 2013
We recently started using Civil3d 2013. We made a huge jump from LDD 2008. We have profiles designed and data short cuts are created. We have existing and proposed.
Now i've created a reference and brought them into another drawing. First I tried to set up the color and linetype for each profile. When I do this. Both the existing and proposed become the same color and linetype.I do not see how to select the existing from the proposed and set the color and linetype.
Next I select the proposed profile and right click and select Edit Labels. I start to create the PVI labels. When I do this the PVI's for the existing profile get labeled. I want the proposed profile labeled. Not the existing.
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Apr 5, 2012
We just discovered data at our office, and I am pretty stoked about them 90% of the time. We do have one problem with them though. We are doing a small road, with 10 or so alignments and a few pipe networks of 40 pipes and structures. 1 surface, and that is about it. I made a cross sections sheet with our design file xrefed and data references to everything in it. Now it won't open. I can copy it to my local hard drive, run a recover, and then open it, save it back, add in all the data references and redo labels, but I can't open it from there.
Is there some way to have it open without syncing?
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Aug 20, 2013
Here is the background.
A "MODEL" drawing exists that contains only the surface model. The surface model is data referenced into a "LABEL" drawing that contains the surface style (contours), contour labels, and spot elevations. This "LABEL" drawing is xref-ed into a "SHEET" drawing that contains the title block and some other xrefs containing the proposed layout, ex cond, etc..
When I open the "LABELS" drawing, the data reference works. My problem is that when I open the "SHEET" drawing, the contour labels and spot elevations cannot find the referenced surface and just contain a string of 20 or so characters.
I already have a workaround. If I open the "SHEET" drawing, then open the "LABELS" drawing and save it, I can reload the "LABELS" drawing within the "SHEET" drawing and the problem is solved.
HOWEVER, I have a bunch of sheets that I want to publish, and publish does not work when you have to open the file and re-reference everything. Is there anyway to get this reference working correctly so that I do not have to open multiple drawings to get my data correct?
FYI, I have already tried resetting my data shortcuts project folder, validating data shortcuts, etc. in the "LABELS" and "SHEET" drawings.
Civil 3D 2012, SP 2.1
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Nov 26, 2012
I have a data shortcut file where i keep my EG surface that now has File Name.dwg [DS] [DS] [DS] [DS]. What's the deal? Has this managed to morph itself into something it's not. It used to have only one, had two for awhile, and now 4 references to the DS (Datashort cut project folder).
Have I done something wrong here to get these wonky file names, would be nice to see just 1 reference being made to my DS Project folder.
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Jun 19, 2012
I was trying to export my alignment, at certain intervals, to excel (or text) as xyz data. I tried searching and found... Alignment to xyz
But it didn't really work. I can export the XY but not the Z in the report manager.
So my questions are.... How can I create a new report to incorporate the Z? Or is there another way to do it?
I should add I also tried the "Incremental Stationing Reporting" from the Profiles Report... However it doesn't recognize the profiles I've created? I get the "No FG profiles in....." even though there are?
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Jan 25, 2011
For some reason when I try to "Create Reference" to bring in my Alignment, Finished Ground and Existing Ground I get three different alignment data shortcuts instead of them grouping into one. I am trying to find out where in my workflow this all went wrong.
I have a .dwg that just has my alignment files in it. Then I make a new drawing and data shortcut in those alignments and Surface. I make my profiles and then create the data shortcuts for those. I start a New drawing and try to reference the alignment and profile and I get duplicated that aren't grouped. If you take a look at the two .bmp's you can see what happens.
The Purple highlighted area is how I want it to show up and that one worked just fine. Same work flow. The yellow is what is giving me a hard time.
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Mar 20, 2013
How can i create an Alignment from points (imported) easily without drawing a polyline point to point using a polyline to define a route?
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Mar 6, 2013
Is there currently any workaround to bring in alignment descriptions when data short cutting? I have hundreds of lines that are in my drawing that need callouts and this is easily done by making a label with reference text to the alignment description.
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Apr 15, 2013
I have a drawing that suddenly stopped synching one of the alignments (the others synch fine) and the two surfaces that are referenced. They are all data referenced but require me to open the drawing and manually synch the entities each time. This drawings was functioning perfectly until this began just recenlty. I've searched the forums but can't find anything. I'm assuming maybe some system variable is wacky but that doesn't explain why the other alignments sync just fine.
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Aug 4, 2011
is it possible to lock an alignment to a pipe network, so that if you move a structure, the alignment moves with it?
along those same lines, when you create an alignment from a pipe network, is it possible to auto assign the reference alignment to the pipe parts, so that labels come out correctly?
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Apr 27, 2012
Is there a way to have a block (called test, for arguments sake) within this block we have text (attribute / fiield or whatever).
Now I have an alignment that has stations set every 10 units and on those stations I have inserted the block "test" as part of the alignment label style.
I can get the block inserting correctly, rotation the direction I require etc but what I need is for this block to report the station number.. ie 10, for the first 20 for the second and so on.
Is this possible?
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Oct 29, 2013
I have an alignment I need to edit that has a reverse curve. The first curve was made with the "Floating Curve (from entity, radius, through point)" and the second with "Free Curve Fillet (between two entities, radius)"
When I delete one or both curves i lose all the superelevation data beyond the editing location due to the temporary spit in the alignment. The superelevation data is all manual. This is a trail and the super is based on drainage not curves.
how to edit the alignment with a temporary split and not lose the superelevation data? I have not found a way yet to remove the reverse curves and not have a temporary gap.
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Jul 2, 2012
In LDT listing curve data was as easy as selecting an alignment, clicking edit and printing out a spreadsheet with all the required info. how to do this in C3D. Inifo I need:
Delta
DOC
Tan
Length
Radius
PC
PT
PI
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Feb 5, 2008
Is there a way to export the band data for an alignment with two profiles? I have an existing ground and a proposed profile. Can I export the station and elevation data from the band for both profiles?
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Feb 22, 2013
For a roadway project I am creating alignment detail sheets. For the first project, only a portion of the final road is being constructed. I have the proposed alignment brought in with data shortcuts and will use various styles for the labeling. But I only need a few different sections of this alignment to be shown. Is there a way I can set clip boundaries or mask out the sections I don't want to show?
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Oct 2, 2012
I am issues with DEM files that I am downloading from the USGS website.I download 24k, elevation for the area I need. I then choose staged 1 second, add a surface to a blank drawing, then upload the DEM files to the surface.
The surface imports correcty, but when I try to import points taken by a surveyor on the same drawing, they plot incorrectly.The DEM surface and the points from the surveyor do not correspond. Also, the DEM surface is in meters, not feet. I have tried changing drawing settings, datum types, coordinate types, etc.
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Dec 14, 2009
I want to change the reference surface for a pipe network with existing pipes and structures. however the changes will only affect new objects, I have to manually change the others one by one. Even with the vista open I can select multiple structures, but when I click in the reference surface column of one of the selected structures, all the others are deselected.
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Aug 13, 2013
How would I go about generating labelled points with xyz values at 5m intervals along a road alignment in Civils 3D 2014?
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I have looked into the Stakeout Alignment Report, but this seems to require a survey database, which I don't have.
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Aug 18, 2013
How to calculate the AREA of cut and fill analogous to the volume of cut and fill between surfaces, but instead only between the alignment and the road profile in the prolfile view. From what I've read of similar posts a few people have had the same question but have been instructed how to do it with volumes as opposed to area. Also how to insert a table of cut and fill area analogous to the one you can inset from the volumes dashboard.
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Dec 2, 2013
I need to produce a better standard table for our company, but need to know how it would be possible to display only either the START STAKE VALUE/ STATION or END STAKE VALUE/STATION in the appropriate column. If I can achieve this i would not need to details for straight segments as indicated in the details column.
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Jun 1, 2010
I have been provided with Surveyed Utility Locates along an Existing Roadway. These are provided to show conflicts between the New Storm Sewer System and Existing Utilities such as Water, Sewer, Gas, Elec, etc. The survey however is incomplete as it was prepared a few years ago and the Storm Sewer has just been designed. Yes, I can create points and provide them to the County Surveying department. However, before this is done, I must provide an easily-understood format of the new survey locations to the County Project Management.
To provide a Point Table which references the Surveyed Points' location in reference to the roadway stationing (Alignment). I have attached what the point table is to look like.
I am unable to find the desired data reference in the currently provided data field selection. Am I just missing it or is this a "Wish List" item?
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Sep 13, 2013
It is 27 miles of waterline broken into 3 mile segments.The problem is with the profiles that have been cut. The existing ground surface has been sampled along the alignment and multiple profile view made from that alignment. When the alignment changes, the only way that the surface seems to update is to run the "profiles; create profiles from surface command again" at which point it adds a new profile into the profile views reflecting the current surface over the alignment, then the "old" profile must be deleted from the profile views. Everything is set to dynamic, yet certainly is not being very dynamic.
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Oct 18, 2012
Using C3d 2013.
Where do I find the PI data of an alignment object to plug into a mtext Field?
Field Category and Field Name and any other steps to locating it would be useful.
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Jul 12, 2013
I have a sheet that has several alignments data referenced and labels applied. Recently some of the alignments changed (slightly extended), I checked the sheet and all of the labels have auto updated. Everything looks good. A Print Preview looks good.
When create the print (to pdf), the alignments that changed and all the labels do not show up. Nothing changed with layers, styles, etc. I tried Synchronize and Refresh from Prospector. I can create another Data Ref but don't want to go thru all the labeling again.
Preview and pdf attached.
C3D 2012
C3D 2012 sp1
W7Pro 64bit
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