AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Broken Data References?
Jul 8, 2013
Possible to open a drawing that was created with AutoCad Civil3D 2011 and create all of your Civil objects and data references if it is a bad idea to then open it at a later date in AutoCad Civil as Autocad 2011. Does this effect any of the data in the drawing. It has been recommended here that we do this for making minor line/text edits as some folks have slower computers that cant handle the civil side of the program.
why we are constantly facing corrupt drawing files that lose references.
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Dec 3, 2012
How do you sort data references?
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Civil 3D 2012 (64)
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Jul 8, 2013
A co-worked has made a mention of "Reference Alignments not found in Reference Drawing" error message popping up multiple times this morning and said he thinks it is a trendd in many drawings that have been worked on. In my experience this message pops up if you move the location of the reference drawing, or change the name of the alignment without synchronizing.
The issue is it has been said that this is fatal erroring the drawings.
I have not worked on the project myself and am just relaying what i heard-
I know this is a very vague question, we have 2011 Civil 3d
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Feb 9, 2013
Is it possible to create more than one data reference at a time?
I have approximately 30 alignments with over 100 profiles in my profile design drawing. The interface to create the data shortcuts allows me to do so by selecting multiple alignments and profiles. This works well and is efficient. To create the data references I have to create the reference for each alignment and profile one at time. I estimate this will take at least 30 minutes.
I am using Civil 3D 2012.
Civil 3D 2012 SP3 | Win 7 64-bit SP1
Xeon E5-1620 @ 3.60GHz, 16GB Ram | NVidia Quadro 600
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Nov 17, 2013
We recently started using Civil3d 2013. We made a huge jump from LDD 2008. We have profiles designed and data short cuts are created. We have existing and proposed.
Now i've created a reference and brought them into another drawing. First I tried to set up the color and linetype for each profile. When I do this. Both the existing and proposed become the same color and linetype.I do not see how to select the existing from the proposed and set the color and linetype.
Next I select the proposed profile and right click and select Edit Labels. I start to create the PVI labels. When I do this the PVI's for the existing profile get labeled. I want the proposed profile labeled. Not the existing.
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Apr 5, 2012
We just discovered data at our office, and I am pretty stoked about them 90% of the time. We do have one problem with them though. We are doing a small road, with 10 or so alignments and a few pipe networks of 40 pipes and structures. 1 surface, and that is about it. I made a cross sections sheet with our design file xrefed and data references to everything in it. Now it won't open. I can copy it to my local hard drive, run a recover, and then open it, save it back, add in all the data references and redo labels, but I can't open it from there.
Is there some way to have it open without syncing?
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Aug 20, 2013
Here is the background.
A "MODEL" drawing exists that contains only the surface model. The surface model is data referenced into a "LABEL" drawing that contains the surface style (contours), contour labels, and spot elevations. This "LABEL" drawing is xref-ed into a "SHEET" drawing that contains the title block and some other xrefs containing the proposed layout, ex cond, etc..
When I open the "LABELS" drawing, the data reference works. My problem is that when I open the "SHEET" drawing, the contour labels and spot elevations cannot find the referenced surface and just contain a string of 20 or so characters.
I already have a workaround. If I open the "SHEET" drawing, then open the "LABELS" drawing and save it, I can reload the "LABELS" drawing within the "SHEET" drawing and the problem is solved.
HOWEVER, I have a bunch of sheets that I want to publish, and publish does not work when you have to open the file and re-reference everything. Is there anyway to get this reference working correctly so that I do not have to open multiple drawings to get my data correct?
FYI, I have already tried resetting my data shortcuts project folder, validating data shortcuts, etc. in the "LABELS" and "SHEET" drawings.
Civil 3D 2012, SP 2.1
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Aug 28, 2013
I am working on roadway project where I am using Pipe Networks to layout the drainage infrastructure. I have set my working dwg up so that I am data referencing the existing surface and proposed alignment. I have set my pipe network up so that it is also referencing this surface and alignment. Everything was working fine. Labels were pulling the correct information from my surface elevations, and stations were being referenced as well, until I got a message that recommended that I recover my drawing.
I ran recover and my surface and alignment data shortcut disappeared. My pipe network now shows questions marks where there were once stationing and it appears that the surface and alignment have completely disassociated themselves from my drawing, however they appear in the prospector, but cannot be refreshed. Again the data shortcut symbol is no longer next to my surface and alignment, but there is a symbol telling me that those objects are being referenced by another object in my drawing (my pipe network). I have tried refreshing, resetting the working folder, all to no avail.
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Nov 26, 2012
I have a data shortcut file where i keep my EG surface that now has File Name.dwg [DS] [DS] [DS] [DS]. What's the deal? Has this managed to morph itself into something it's not. It used to have only one, had two for awhile, and now 4 references to the DS (Datashort cut project folder).
Have I done something wrong here to get these wonky file names, would be nice to see just 1 reference being made to my DS Project folder.
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Jan 31, 2013
I know that data referenced drawings can be included in an eTransmit. However the drefs don't appear to repath when doing so. Any way to promote data references using eTransmit?
For context, we are trying to find a good way to archive all the project files at certain milestones. eTransmit does a good job of gathering up all the files referenced in a sheet set. It appears to repath the acad xrefs but the drefs still refer back to the working model files.
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Aug 15, 2013
I have a recurring problem that I can't seem to figure out. I have my existing grade TIN surface as a data shortcut into my roadway design file, but it sometimes will not update when opening the drawing. The surface profile will not display until the surface is manually synced. Any labels that are associated with that surface (or other object) will just display the ??? because it can't seem to connect to the data. After a manual sync it seems to come back.
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Jun 18, 2012
C3D 2013.Is there a way to search the C3D styles for references to textstyles?
IOW - I know there are references to a certain textstyle in this drawing, how to find it/them without manually inspecting each style?
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Apr 8, 2013
I know the difference between attach and overlay for reference files.
The problem here is that the xref IS attacehd as an overlay and I am still not able to detach it.
I am working on WisDOT transportation plans. For those that are not familiar with these projects, certain reference files must plot black in some plan sections, but grey in others. When we submit the plans to the utility companies, all utilities must be black. but are grey in everyother submittal. I changed the xref level attributes to plot black with the intensions of detaching the xref and reattaching to revert back to the orignial grey level attributes. Is there anyway that changing the level attributes is somehow not letting the xref be detached?
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Aug 21, 2012
After using Autodesk recommendations for a clean install, remove programs, remove files and remove registry edits I can not delete the file
C:Program FIlesCommon FIlesAutodesk Sharedacsigncore16.dll
How this file is still in use if all Autodesk files and references were removed?
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Dec 30, 2013
URL....I have a jpg file that I needed to apply some transparency to and saved it as a png file. I now want to delete the jpg file but it's being referenced in several drawings, but I don't know which ones. Is there a way to reverse the function of Reference Manager, ie find all the drawing files that reference my jpg file?
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Jun 27, 2013
I'm trying to adjust the properties of some block objects in Mspace. When the file contains external references the function fails, when it has none it works perfectly.
Dim modelSpace As BlockTableRecord = DirectCast(M_trans.GetObject(SymbolUtilityServices.GetBlockModelSpaceId(db), OpenMode.ForRead), BlockTableRecord)
For Each id As ObjectId In modelSpace
Dim ent As Autodesk.AutoCAD.DatabaseServices.Entity = DirectCast(M_trans.GetObject(id, OpenMode.ForWrite), Autodesk.AutoCAD.DatabaseServices.Entity)
ent.Color = Color.FromColorIndex(ColorMethod.ByLayer, 256)
Using the above to get all objectid's and filter through them then using:
If TypeOf ent Is BlockReference Then
Dim br As BlockReference = DirectCast(ent, BlockReference)
Dim btr As BlockTableRecord = DirectCast(M_trans.GetObject(br.BlockTableRecord, OpenMode.ForRead), BlockTableRecord)
If Not btr.IsFromExternalReference Then
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May 11, 2012
I have a file that looks like it is going to open nice and fast and then it gets stuck at 50% synchronizing references. It literally takes over 5 minutes for the file to come completely up and ready to work on.
In the file I have an existing ground surface data reference and two corridors (with alignments, profiles and profiles views) that are basic access roads roughly 1200' long each with a very basic assembly. I also have a pipe network data referenced that is just a bunch of pipes that represent existing utilities crossing the access road so I can show them in cross sections. The final thing I have in here are 50' cross sections for each of these access roads.
why does it take me 5+ minutes to get into this file?
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Apr 24, 2012
I have a master shape file that contains parcel ID, owner, tax info., etc. I have another file ( access 2003 -open to better file format suggestions-) which contains parcel ID and a "yes" or " no" entry for whether or not the parcel needs a new water meter. All I want to do is add the water meter information into the other shape file. This would create one shape file with one table with all the information that I need.
Ultimately I will use the information to do a map query and find out spatially where i need new water meters.
Right now i have the master shape file connected though the “Connect to Data” feature. I also have the new data added to the drawing though the Data sources------>attach under the “Map Explorer” Task pane. I attached access file (ver. 2003 .mdb) which has two columns “Parcel ID” and “Meter”.
I right click on the shape file under the display manager and select”Create a Join;” however my water meter table is not listed as an option. Will this not work?
Plan B - I tried to Create and connect to the access file as an ODBC connection. Followed this guy’s directions to a T [URL]. But when i populate my table under the fdo connection the column headings exist ( “parcel ID” and “Meter”) but the actual data is missing. Am I missing something important?
Note: I am running c3d 2012 on a Win 7 64 Bit machine. I also removed office 32 bit apps and installed 64 bit apps to see if that would solve the problem. No go.
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Apr 10, 2013
say you make some parcels in your project with custom data fields like: id_no, permit_no, acres_served etc. you attach an agency provided shape file via an fdo connection that has many fields of information like above.
when you right click on your parcel and do parcel properties you get a tab that lets you input the custom parcel data.
lets say you print an fdo map label showing, say, the id_no, provided in the shape file. Then in your custom parcel properties for id_no you type that in.
is there a way to make an expression to put in the other custom parcel properties that will read, say, the permit_no(id_no) from the fdo like and put that information in the custom parcel property field?
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Jun 7, 2012
I'm having problems getting super elevation data to transfer to different drawings by means of an alignment data shortcut. I know alignments hold the super elevation data so I've gone into my alignments data shortcut, input my super elevation data, saved and closed. Now when I open my finished grade drawing, reference in my alignment and profiles, then create a corridor from that information, my super elevation didn't transfer with the reference.
I pulled cross sections and it appears is has no clue there is any super elevation data. Also, I tried bringing it directly into the drawing I'm doing my corridors in and it erred saying I must be in the parent alignment drawing. Data shortcuts are pretty much useless to me if super elevation data doesn't transfer.
64 bit Windows 7
Intel Xeon (R) @2.8GHz
6.00GB Ram
Civil 3D 2012
Civil 3D 2012
Intel(R) Xeon W3530 @ 2.80GHz
6.00GB Ram
Windows 7 Professional
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Sep 9, 2011
i have created a data band in profile view that should show a created profiles elevation, but some of the the data fields are missing irregulary. Also in the data band that shoud show the diferenece betven the tow profiles - EG and the new profile the data is missing. The EG profiles data and the surface are ok all is shown.
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May 3, 2013
I've just installed Civil3D, 64-bit on windows 7(running on bootcamp) and am trying to insert a georeferenced raster image but have encountered some issues.
1. "Home tab>>Data panel>>>insert An Image" - The data panel is missing and it's also not found in "customize palettes"
2. Trying the data connect route does not work either: Display manager>>>Data>>>Connect To Data - There is no 'Data' option and I cannot connect to Data.
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Jul 13, 2012
Is there any way to get the broken symbol in a broken dimension like shown below?
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May 9, 2012
Is there a way to quckly join contour lines that have been broken where the contour elevation is?
example, if this were a contour line ---------501---------
I'd want to delete the contour elevation and join the line to make a continuous contour line.....
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Oct 1, 2013
When i am making e-transmittal i am getting the message warning Xref broken reference , what are the causes for this.
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Jul 29, 2013
I am working with a goverment agency and we have hired two cosultants to work on a projects. They are using data shortcuts for surfaces, alignments and pipe networks. When they delivered C3D files to us get our reviews, (they burned the dwgs on the CD) all surfaces and alignments are broken.
My question is:
1) How do I repair those broken C3D objects?
2) What should i request the consultants to provide us so that when I open these drawings at my end, the surfaces are not broken.
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Jul 19, 2007
I have got the ole Program Errors Dialogue back again. It seemed to stem from a rogue data shortcut that got broken.
I could not delete the broken surface reference, so had to create another data shortcut, create a reference and then I had the opportunity to delete the rogue surface and then the data shortcut.
Anyway, I got this error on Audit. (see image attached)
and this was the audit command line dump...
Command: audit
Fix any errors detected? [Yes/No] : y
Auditing Header
Auditing Tables
Auditing Entities Pass 1
Pass 1 100 objects audited
AcDbDictionary(8AB)
XData String Length 260 > 255
Truncate to 255
AcDbDictionary(8AB)
could not be repaired.
Pass 1 30600 objects audited
Auditing Entities Pass 2
[Code]...
I may have made an error by importing a data shortcut I didn't need in past weeks on this job. When a data shortcut is broken, it is quite hard to remove the reference.
Anyway, perhaps I just need to upgrade but I don't want to do it for this curent project as I am almost finished. (famous last words).
So what is causing this error that cannot be fixed? I didn't ask foran Xdata string to exceed 255 characters...
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Jun 18, 2012
can i divide them in 3 different areas that when i add their individual volume would give the same total volume if you calculate the entire surface?
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Jul 15, 2013
I'm in a dwg that had broken references. I right clicked on Alignments to repair all broken references. Everything came in (surfaces, alignments, pipe networks) but text did not come in from a source drawing; the Source Dwg is a Pipe Network. The network came in but not the text. I opened the source dwg & the text is there. The Event Viewer is showing no broken references so what I'm I missing?
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Dec 13, 2013
Back in LDT you used to be able to mouse over point descriptions of dragged state points to get Osnap to select the node. Civil 3D has apparently done away with this, why who knows but its very very hard to know what point your selecting if say you have a bunch of points on top of eachother. Can this be enabled anywhere?
The very mundain work around is to use 'PO to select the point entity, but it does not show the little osnap indicator on the point marker when you use 'PO.
How can I get my old Osnap node selection back?
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Jul 24, 2012
I created an assembly with a broken back subassembly. I moved it to a 40cm horizontal offset away from the axis. I attached it to a corridor using two polylines as targets. One for the broken back and one for the outside lane. In civil 2011 everything works fine.
In civil 2012 the ETW is offseted by the same value i moved the subassembly away from the axis! If i change the subassembly offset to eg 1m then when rebuilding corridor the ETW moves to 1m away from the target polyline!
Same strange behavior using subassembly R2011 or R2012.
See the attached dwg.
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