AutoCAD 2013 :: Linetypes That Are Not Being Used Nor Will They Purge From A Drawing
Jan 4, 2013
I'm having a small problem with linetypes that are not being used nor will they purge from a drawing. I believe that all started with the binding of an xref but now the xref has been removed along with just about everything else other than simple geometry and some text. The linetypes will not purge. For instance, if I take a standard "new" dwt file that has no problems and copy anything from an "infected" drawing to the dwt, the infectious linetypes will now appear in the dwt. And when I say anything, I mean anything. i can draw a new circle/line/point on the "0" layer and copy that new item into the clean dwt and it will take along with it the unwanted linetypes.
I have seen a similar post about linetypes not purging. And have tried the wblock solution with now luck. I have tried recover along with anything else that I could think of. Again the drawing doesn't have any xrefs and even newly drawn items, when copied, will become infected by the unwanted line types.
Also, the linetypes that are being left behind do have the "$0$" within the name. But also to mention the only ones being left behind are "powerline" and "phantom",
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Jan 31, 2011
How can I purge linetypes? We get data from outside sources and my goal is to load our linetypes. I have a list of layers and store the previous layer linetypes. I reset them all to "Continuous". Now I have to purge the old linetype definitions but I can't make them go away. I need to purge DASHED and HIDDEN so far. If I open the file and click on the linetype in layer manager, I still see the old DASHED and HIDDEN definitions. I have tried db.purge(linetypeobjectid) but they don't go away.
Do I need to go through the symboltablerecord to find the correct linetypetablerecord and remove it? Will that remove the linetype from the list shown in layer manager? That is what I need to do - make sure DASHED and HIDDEN *have* to be re-loaded from our linetypes.
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Mar 15, 2013
I can actually purge these hidden line types.
The line types in question are funky looking line types that do not exist within our office. They often contain "$$" and and/or file names and other odd characters as if they are remnants of binding a drawing. In any case, they are not visible anywhere in the drawing. We refer to these drawings as being "infected".
If any object, i.e. block, text or even a simple line, is copied from an infected drawing into an uninfected drawing, all of the mysterious line types follow. And when I say all, I mean 50+. Furthermore, copying from one infected to another infected will double the line types. So, as you can see, if undetected, you could easily have 100's of "line types" on a drawing which substantially increases the size of the .dwg file.
The process that I have created (from researching on the internet) is to save the .dwg into a .dxf. Close the .dxf and then PURGE. Purging the .dwg will not work. And, you MUST close and re-open the created .dxf in order to purge these files. The you can again save as a .dwg. To complicate things, occasionally a .dwg will not save as a .dxf unless I AUDIT it first.
Needless to say, this is a giant pain in that the files that are infected are at least 50 in number. I have created a macro or two to at least reduce some of the steps. Unfortunately, since the .dxf must be closed and re-opened (which cannot be done in a macro) an all encompassing macro cannot be written.
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Nov 21, 2011
So i have all these linetypes (see image) that i think originated in Microstation and have appeared on my computer when i binded a few DWGs derived from DGNs. (I can explain all that more if you think its warrented).
This is basicly what keeps happening.
- I open a brand new template, all line types are there (usual: dashed, phantom etc).
- I can work away happily, untill i copy something (a line, text, circle....) from a drawing that has these linetypes and BAM they all appear in the new drawing.
In this way, the linetypes have 'spread' into quite a few dwg's, and i cannot get rid of them once they are in the drawing and its saved.
A few other things....
- Other people in the office can open the drawings on their computers = NO weird Linetypes appear. Some open it and they do appear. (so if you open the dwg attached to this and find no linetypes, i dont know why!)
- The linetypes wont purge due to being in use etc
I would say the problem has originated from when I binded the xrefs, which is fine, but how to i fix it now?
The two main xrefs that appear to be referenced in the linetypes description are being used by other people in the workplace so i cant just delete them and start again.
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May 4, 2011
How do I purge linetypes from a dynamic block? I have hundreds of blocks that make up our legend items and I want to remove unwanted items to reduce the sizes of them.
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Oct 26, 2011
When I open a new template all the correct linetypes are there and the drawing works fine, I can purge and they are deleted if not in use.
When I copy ANYTHING from one of my existing drawings which contains all these odd linetypes then they all appear in the new drawings and they will not purge.
ANYTHING = Text, blocks, lines... etc.
From reading about similar problems I think it has risesn from Binding/Inserting (I cant remember which one I used) of a Xref orignially from Microstation into a drawing I did about 3 months ago. The linetypes have just stuck around.
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Apr 25, 2013
See attached dwg with a basic layer, dim style and text style template. See that there are linetypes which I can't purge.
_TEMP.dwg
Linetypes are for example:
4382_F_08-10 GA Elevations$0$4382_F_1000-1 Lower Ground Floor Plan$0$ceiling details - Model$0$SW-CA-ZZZZ-ZZZ-2SC-AR-063001_Section4-4 - Default$0$AUSGEZOGEN
That's just one name and there is over a hundred similar ones! Maybe the name is too long for ACAD to handle?
Things I've tried.
wblock selected to new .dwg
audit, purge and audit, purge again.
Copy and pasting into blank template. Step 2.
10+ years in AutoCAD and haven't came accross this before.
Got a great LISP from Lee Mac to steal layers, dimensions and Text styles from the drawing. As long as I didn't take in the Linetypes I was fine. This LISP does a whole lot more than the things described above.
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Mar 1, 2013
I am trying to purge a layer on a drawing that the company is going to use as a template, but even that the layer is not the current one and without objects I cannot purge-delete the layer.
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Sep 18, 2012
I can not run purge or recover on the attached drawing file or it will crash autocad. When I run audit it says no errors are found. I don't have access to older versions of ACAD to test this on and the file is dated back in 2008 but not sure which version of ACAD it was created in.
This is the only copy of the file. I've opened it and added some linework and saved it as a newer drawing only to have the same results. The attached file is the unaltered version. I have one other file that I'm having the same issue with as well.
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Jul 17, 2013
We have a problem in our office. In some of our drawings we keep getting a lot of unwanted linetypes and text styles. Nobody is sure where they originated.
We have tried this method in getting rid of them but it doesnt work. [URL]
See attached file.
Same applies with the text styles.
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Oct 20, 2013
I am trying to understand how Linetype scale works, and have been researching on LTSCALE, MSLTSCLAE and PSLTSCLAE. I believe I have a fair understanding of each of these settings. Still, I can't figure out how the scaling works while I was trying to create custom line type. To illustrate, I created a new linetype called XCENTER, which is exactly the same line type as CENTER except its name, in a new LIN file.
*XCENTER,XCenter ____ _ ____ _ ____ _ ____ _ ____ _ ____
A,1.25,-.25,.25,-.25
After loading the new linetype into my drawing, I was surprised to see that CENTER and XCenter show up in different scales in the same drawing (see png).
My work file is WORK.DWG, I have purged everything except the two polylines, one with the line type of CENTER, the other xCENTER. Not that my global scale is 1:100, LTSCLAE=, MSLTSCALE=1, the object scales are both set to 1.0.
I copied the two lines to clipboard and pasted on a brand new drawing TEST.DWG, and the two lines show up in the same scale.
What in my original drawing WORK.DWG is causing this problem?
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Jun 14, 2011
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how to purge them without wblocking the file to itself?
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Jun 27, 2012
If and how can you copy certain linetypes that are in a drawing and use them in other drawing?
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Aug 27, 2013
I want to edit linetypes from a drawing that I got from a surveyor but do not know where Civil 3D stores the linetypes/*.lin files of externally created drawings.
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Feb 17, 2012
I have not used AC for 3d drawings in years. But I do a lot of 2d in AC2012. Yesterday, I was killing time and took a look at some of the 3d capabilities while in an existing drawing. I inserted a few 3d objects, but I eventually deleted them. Now I notice that the UCS icon has become the 3d UCS, and my snaps no longer function as expected. Is there some way to purge the 3d info and return the drawing to it's original 2d functions?
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Nov 15, 2013
I am having trouble when I import XRef’s and the scaling of lines. When the drawings are importing the hidden lines do not show up as hidden lines. I know this might be a scaling issue but I do not know how to correct this. The XRef drawing is drawn at a scale of 1-1/2”=1’-0” and set to print on a letter size paper but the drawing which it is imported to is set to be printed on a 11x17 but the viewport is still at the 1-1/2” scale and the lines are shown as continuous.
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Jun 10, 2013
I must be missing something on how Linetypes Work. I created a folder where I store all my shape files for linetypes, and added it as both a support file search path and a working support file search path. I tried to provide as much information as I could with the images below. When I try to bring in a linetype I constantly get a bad definition error. proper way to store and implement Linotype standards.
*GDRLAL,Aluminum Gaurdrail
A,.16,-.06,[GAURDRAIL,gaurdrail,s=1],-.06,.16,-.06,[GAURDRAIL,gaurdrail,s=1],-.06,.16,-.06,[GAURDRAIL,gaurdrail,s=1],
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Oct 19, 2012
How do I remove unused linetypes from drawing
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Feb 22, 2013
I have a drawing that has hundreds of text styles that do not seem to be used by anything that I cannot purge. I have even deleted everything in the entire drawing, and it still says that the text styles are in use. Is there a way to override the purge since I know that the text is not in use.
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Apr 26, 2012
When I purge a drawing, the text styles are not a selectable option (as if there are no purgeable text styles). if i use (-purge), it will purge the unused text styles. I can also go into the Styles dialog box and delete the styles. It happens in all drawings and nobody else in the dept has the problem. I can't find any settings that would exclude any items from the purge dialog box as well. Autocad 2012? windows 7 64 bit.
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Oct 14, 2013
I incorporated an architects drawing into mine, and brought in hundreds of linetypes and text styles. Whenever I cut and paste from that drawing, the linetypes come too. If I cut and paste within the drawing, I think the linetypes multiply. It's made the drawings almost unworkable.
I can xref the file into a new drawing, and edit the x ref to make it part of the drawing, which gets rid of the linetypes, but adds a prefix to every layer, block, text style etc.
Acad13, 64bit, Win7.
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Jun 17, 2013
I am working on my company template. We are trying to keep it as close to INDOT standards as we can. Indot uses microstation and provides many files for microstation users. I converted one of the files to a .DWG and impoted all the linetypes to my template. This had a lot of bad side effects.
How to extract the actual code for the Linetypes, so that i can simply re-write a code as autocad wants it and then import?
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Sep 10, 2012
Using project navigator my drawings get xrefed from the constructs, through the views, and finally to the sheets tab.
I recently realized that I needed to fix / change my linetypes on 5 different drawings starting at the construct. When I had finally finished fixing the layer linetype / line LTscale / drawing LTscale to get it to look exactly the way that I wanted, I had to go through my views drawings, and the sheets drawings, detach the xrefs, re-attach them, and then modify the layers to the colours that I wanted.
Some people had the same problem about 10 years ago in this thread, and the poster at the bottom sums it all up nicely. This is not a VISRETAIN issue. I just want changes to my linetype changes to flow through all xrefs, just as if I had moved a line.
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I would like to see a setting added to CAD that would allow linetype changes to flow through, and a colour setting that would allow colour changes to flow through. Maybe VISRETAIN is too broad of a command, and needs to be broken down into linetypes, colours, LTScales. etc etc etc.
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the support file path is pointed to a local folder which contains a customised .shx file made by a previous employee here.
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*P-GAS,Gas Line ----GAS----GAS----GAS----GAS----GAS----GAS--
A,.5,-.2,["GAS",STANDARD,S=.1,U=0.0,X=-0.1,Y=-.05],-.25
It reads great in Model tab, but in paperspace tab, my viewport is rotated versus the Model tab
2013 Civil 3D
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I have attached the dwg for reference.
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Windows 7 HP Z400, Intel Xeon W3550 3.07GHz
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