3ds Max :: Symmetry With Bones Using Skin Modifier
Apr 4, 2011
I have recently starting skinning my human model and everything was fine until I found out that the chest bone I have on each side of the chest isn't being noticed by 3ds Max as being symmetrical with the other bone. This means I can't use mirror bones or mirror vertices to that part of the model. How to make two bones that aren't being recognized as symmetrical by 3ds Max symmetrical? When using the envelopes in the skin modifier, when I go to mirror the bones or vertices, the two bones are red instead of blue or green to show symmetry. The two bones are relatively in the same place on opposite sides of the model. They aren't the same size but close. Is there something I need to do to make them have symmetry or is there a way to make 3ds Max recognize that you have two bones that you want to be symmetrical?
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May 5, 2012
Got this low-poly model here. I created some bones for it and inserted them into the mesh. But when I use the Skin Modifier into it, and use the 'add' button under "Parameters". No bones appear in the list?
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Nov 16, 2011
I created a rig in MAX 32bit but recently loaded 64 bit MAX but now when I choose the skin modifier/edit envelopes, I cannot choose bones to edit. The interface just flashes and I am not able to select verts on the mesh. I had originally used the weight tool to change the weights of each vert on the mesh, now it doesn't work at all.
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Dec 22, 2012
What is the proper way to apply the symmetry modifier to a sphere ? I created this custom android bot. After I create a sphere with hemisphere I create the eye and split the sphere in two then zero it out on the grid. Then I apply the modifier. When I do that it does not project the other half of the sphere even when it's on flip and x axis. The mirror part is kind of on the back side of the sphere. What happens is I have to rotate the mirror part to line it up and up the thresh hold a lot to get the back side to connect.
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Oct 12, 2011
I'm creating a face rig but i need a flexible modifier for the bones to make work instead use facerobot
how i can make it?
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Jun 5, 2013
I have got a model wearing a shirt and pants that have the skin wrap modifier applied. all works fine animated in the viewport. When I render however the skin wrap gets lost, both in the render and then in the viewport.
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Oct 21, 2012
I've migrated from Maya to 3ds Max for character animation and was wondering - When I apply a skin modifier then go to 'Edit envelopes' - is there an equivalent to maya's artisan interface? i.e. Can I paint weights with a brush rather than vertex by vertex or entering numbers?
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Nov 11, 2013
I have a single-mesh model, pre-rigged and textured. I am trying to export it into a format which has a bone-limit of 59 bones per mesh. This model, however, has over 100 bones.
I'm really not very good at doing rigging from scratch; someone else rigged this for me. I need to split up the mesh, so the model meets the less-than-59-bones-per-mesh rule.
Is there a way to do this without destroying the skin modifier, and having to re-skin the whole thing? I'd like it to end up as several meshes, which all work as one in terms of rigging.
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Mar 17, 2011
Skin modifer, skelleton has moved outside the mesh.
I flick the light on and off on skin modifier, when its off the skelleton fits the model perfectly and when it,s on the hand and arm has been liftet outside the skel.
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Nov 8, 2011
I just sat down to use 3Ds Max '12 for the first time today after upgrading from 2010. This will probably be a simple fix, but I can't get any text to cap with the extrude modifier or bevel modifier. It happens with every typeface I've tried. I even tried using the cap holes modifier. Never had this problem with previous version of 3Ds.
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Nov 20, 2012
I occasionally use GIMP to burn-down parts of portraits that compete with the face. For example, bare shoulder, midriff over-light, hands over-lit.
The skin ends up looking greyish, not like less-lit skin. It works not too badly visually, as the emphasis is on the face, but fails on inspection.
I have tried the burn tool and just plain old Brightness, both on a selected area.
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Jul 19, 2012
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Could I have a description of how to match the skin color of the head to the boxer's skin color?
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Jun 5, 2011
Whenever i try to create an object using symmetry, convert to nurbs, object doesn't behave like a symmetry but gives off very unexpected result, is there any setting that i have turned off which is causing it?
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Sep 7, 2012
I'm trying to model a pillow and I want the top and bottom symmetrical with a round "tubing" around the edges. The problem is that it wont smooth using nurm smoothing across the seem, so i get a fissure where I wanted the tube.
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Mar 30, 2011
How do i add a symmetry to my box model in 3dsmax where when i move a vertex,edge,polygon etc on one side the same thing happens on the other side instantly. I've seen this done in zbrush and xsi wondering how i can do this on 3dsmax. I've used the symmetry modifier but the other side does not move when i edit the other.
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Jan 26, 2013
I have a character that's textured, and I'd like to make adjustments to the mesh. I would like to select a Vertex on the right half of the mesh, and the Vertex on the left side would also get selected. So when I move it, the opposite moves in the "mirrored" direction.
In Softimage it's simple; I apply a Symmetry Map to the model, choose the Symmetry Mode, and it works. How do you set that up?
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Oct 29, 2011
My current workflow is to Clone my object, mirror the polygons on the clone and delete the original half of the clone so I have two working halves. Turn symmetry on so the center points stay on the plane. Then I model - edit and extrude and so on, the original, the clone is updated. Well partially.
Here are the problems I am running into:
1) There seems to be no way to add a primitive into a polymesh. Been through the manual and I did not find a way to do this.
2) This leads to the next problem. There does not seem to be a way to properly merge or join objects into the poly mesh without creating a new mesh object. This in effect cuts the relationship to the clone. And anytime I want to add a primitive into the mesh as a starting point or target for creating new geometry, this means doing the clone, mirror, delete process all over. Not exactly efficient. As note here I am talking about connected parts not just putting parts in that could be separate. Such as contours on a car body that merge to a disc where the headlight would be. Just as an example. And I am polygon modeling here.
I am aware of lofting just so you know, but the above was just an example. I'd like to know specifically about working in symmetry.
Any tips on a better workflow to model - create/add new mesh components including primitives and edit them - in symmetry.
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Dec 28, 2011
im currently doing the tutorial about the viking helmet.Im in this section "Working in symmetry mode to add detail to the helmet".Im at the point 7 of "select the seam and rim faces to extrude".I have changed the value of the slide control to -25 but when i turn on the show end result to see the left face of the helmet,it doesnt display nothing...,i did something wrong or is this a bug?
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Sep 5, 2013
I tried to use symmetry tools in editable poly for creating mirrored morph targets and the tools seems to be broken in 2014.
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Apr 2, 2013
I imported a piece of art into Illustrator and I want all parts of it to be equal and symmetrical. What would be the best way to start going about this?
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Feb 1, 2005
I am attempting softening the skin and that the sternum's bones not be noticeable .
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Dec 26, 2013
I know where the customize colors options is... but trying to guess at the meanings of the names is a very tedious process in max
So, I found the color for edges when working with geometry... but when I model something with a symmetry modifier applied, then the edge color defaults to the bright ORANGE color. What this color would be called?
And for that matter, any data base, online file, where these color terms are defined more clearly. It's sometimes very tedious to trial and error these things, especially if you have to restart max every time you take a guess.
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Jan 9, 2014
I have been modeling something with a symmetry modifier, and it has been working great. But, recently I feel like something has changed...
When I select, for example, a vert (or anything for that matter) and attempt to center my view and orbiting origin in the viewport -- max seems to think I am selected BOTH the vert I selected and the mirrored vert on the other side of the symmetry.
Has this simply always been the case? I feel like, in the past I was able to center in on a single vert in the past... but accedentally I think I toggled something where it is behaving like I am selected both sides, and centers BOTH selections in the view.
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Mar 19, 2013
i want to apply the symmetry mode only for the red polygons in my medel.
how can i do this?
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Dec 5, 2011
Is there a way to scale the bones on the biped or do you do that manually? and if you could do it manually will that mess up anything in the rig? Am trying to scale the bones to fit my mesh so the joints move correctly
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Nov 23, 2011
I created a biped bone model for my limbless animal model I made, and I'm trying to figure out how to link the biped bones to my limbless model, so I can animate it in Motionbuilder.
how I can line the bone structure with my model and link them both together so I can animate them in Motionbuilder?
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Dec 19, 2012
if I have a rig and an object which is skinned to it, what is the best way to enlarge a bone so that certain vertices on my mesh will look inflated or deflated?
I tried to some tricks with the Xform modifier: wiring it's Gizmo controller to a slider UI control so that I could increase and decrease its size without actually scaling it, but this doesn't have any affect on the mesh. I then tried creating morph targets for the bones so that I could again increase and decrease their size without scaling them, but it didn't affect the mesh either.
It seems that the only way to get the mesh to localy increase or decrease in size is to scale parts of your rig, but that's something I always try to avoid.
3ds Max 2013 64-bit Student Version
nVidia GeForce GTX 560
Windows 7 64-bit
Intel i7
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Jul 31, 2013
I'm just starting out with animating for a project. I'm trying to animate a weapon, but the bones are not showing, I've tried pretty much everything. The bone helpers are showing, but not the bones themselves:
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May 31, 2012
I have the student editions of both 3ds max 2012 and 2013 installed. When drawing bones in 2013, they don't show as the normal, pyramidal-looking bones, but as very hard to see lines. Is there any way to change this back to how they used to look in 2012?
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Jan 14, 2014
I have a purchased model with a "hose type" rigg, and I can't figure out how to replicate it.
There is a hose with a bone structure that has four point helpers one on the face mask, one at the top, one at the bottom and one in the middle. If I move the one in the middle it moves all the bones without stretching them...
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Jan 9, 2012
I was wondering if there's a faster way than to manually check to see which bones are skinned and which ones aren't - the rig im working on is quite a monster (~200 bones) and there seems to be a bone skinned which shouldn't be.
Like a way to "filter" them in the scene explorer or something?
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