Photoshop :: What's The Secret To The Gamut Warning?
Apr 27, 2004
I just want to know the secret to the gamut warning. I am in a Photoshop class and we are currently doing color correction. My color corrected image looks good, but my image still has a gamut warning. I know that every image is different, but what are some of the basic things ya'll do to get rid of the gamut warning? Is there any type of conversion that you can do that'll get rid of it?
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Oct 5, 2012
I'm editing an sRGB image. My custom proof condition is set to sRGB IEC, preserve numbers unchecked, intent PER or RC, BPC. Gamut warning is turned on.
I add some text and color it using the text color selector tool. I enable gamut warning in that and choose an out of gamut color such as #ff0000. I return to the image and the the text is *not* flagged as being out of gamut.
In fact *no* color flagged as OOG in the selector seems to be considered OOG once I return to the image with sRGB IEC selected, though they are when I select other devices to simulate.
Why the disparity between the image OOG warning and the selector tool? Is the tool using a different simulated device to that I've selected?
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Jan 29, 2009
1. I'm using CS1 and have installed my printer profile. I assume this will show me what the colors will look like when I convert the photo to the printer's color space (to do this I usually choose IMAGE - MODE -CONVERT TO PROFILE
Why then when I turn on the Gamut Warning, does it show that there are colors out of gamut?
2.When I load a photo with an embedded profile and I choose the option of USE THE EMBEDDED PROFILE INSTEAD OF THE WORKING SPACE do I still need to go to PROOF SETUP and choose the printer profile to see the colors as they will look when printed? Or is this doubling-up on the conversion process.
I would have thought that choosing the printer profile to proof a photo that has already been converted to the printer color space should not show any difference. Unfortunately it does, so I'm not sure which is the accurate one.
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Jul 16, 2006
When you click the color picker and you choose a color, sometimes the "gamut warning" box appears.
(1) What is gamut?
(2) When I choose a color and the box appears, should I click on it or should I just ignore?
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Feb 9, 2012
One thing that I just can't work out is why the gamut warning in GIMP is so much greater than in Photoshop.
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Apr 21, 2013
Photoshop creates several preview images (more smaller than the original) for displaying the effects and creating histograms. So, I think that if I choose the cache level as 1 in the preference window, Photoshop does not create any smaller preview and it always displays information according to the original file.
But, this is not the case, as far as I can see. I set my cache level to 1 and it still displays histogram for cache level 3. So, my question is ... what is the secret behind the cache level?
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Apr 28, 2011
I have a little project in mind (I don't really want to say what it is) that requires very neat linework. I have to say that in terms of linework I am superb with straights. I can even do parallel straights!
What I really need though are smooth 90 degree bends and not just for one line, multiple parallel lines.
What is the secret of getting perfect, precise bends? I can do bends but I fiddle for ages to get them to look right. What really interests me is to take a series of parallel lines and bend them as one.
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Feb 27, 2012
A very similar problem as discussed, but not solved before:[URL]...Planar 26-inch Wide gamut LCD, Eye One Display 2 and latest Lightroom. Just upgraded to Win7 64bit and kaboom. After hardware calibration and profiling all colors in Windows looks great but pictures from my camera (GF2) look dull in LR and don't match what I see when save for Web and look through the web.
Same images opened on calibrated XP machine looks fine, all colors are as expected. If I don't use hardware calibration on Win7 machine and just tweak the sliders in control panel->color management the colors look somewhat off but not dull and consistent and behave as I expect and used to. I've tried both ColorEyes DisplayPro and i1 Match programs in simple and advance modes with the similar (bad) results.
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Feb 20, 2013
So I've been having this issue with Photoshop ever since I started using it on my Windows machine. On my Mac. I could set something to any color and it would appear that way on the screen in RGB mode. However, when I try and do that with the same exact color on my Windows machine it appears in black. I don't have Gamut Warnings on either. However, when I switch the mode to CMYK the color appears. The problem with this is I use photoshop for GUI's and such, not print materiel so if I have it show in CMYK Mode it will give me an inacurate look at how the colors will look.
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Sep 8, 2008
Though not really a PS question, this is the community that is likely to understand my concern. I'm investigating getting a wide gamut monitor( prob Eizo or NEC), but other forums say that there are issues. Some of you are probably using wide gamut monitors, so I thought I'd see what you think.
The concerns seem to be when using the monitor for non-imaging applications, since not all other applications are color managed. "They" say that sRGB JPG's look especially bad on the webb. I would think color managed stuff should be OK. What do you guys think? Worth it or not?
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Jul 7, 2004
I was getting a photo ready to print yesterday and checked the out-of-gamut colors and almost the entire pic turned gray. :-) There was a lot of grass in the scene and the greens were too saturated I guess. So I unchecked OoG and did a soft-proof, and sure enough the greens dulled down a bit.
So my question is: Why fix out of gamut colors if they'll get "fixed" when they print anyway? I mean, there's not much I can do if the printer can't print such a bright green, right?
Also, what's usually the best way to fix them before I send it to print? Just lower saturation? Is there a way to select the OoG colors so I can lower saturation on just those?
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Apr 18, 2013
When I have sRGB selected as my color space in Photoshop (CS6), often I see the out of gamut warning in the color picker. I expected every possible sRGB color value to be within the sRGB color gamut, but apparently I was wrong. I would like to see a horseshoe color space diagram that shows how far the values extend beyond the gamut.
I guess this occurs with all color spaces - you can select color values that are outside of the gamut. I'm not sure what the color space diagrams represent, but I'm guessing they represent the gamut.
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Dec 25, 2008
I've just installed a new Dell 2408WFP wide gamut monitor and will be using it with PS photo editing. I plan to purchase an Xrite i1Display2 for calibrating this monitor. I'm a bit confused by some postings in other forums about whether a WG monitor can be properly calibrated by this (and similar) colorimeters.
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Apr 7, 2012
I have a wide gamut monitor (HP LP2475w) which has already been calibrated. My question isn't so much about that, but the settings I should be using inside of Photoshop (CS5). As far as color settings (ctrl+shift+k) goes, what am I supposed to use? I have sRGB as the rgb working space right now. (never use CMYK), Gray % Spot = dot gain 20%, and preserve profiles are ticked on for all 3. Am I supposed to be using Adobe RGB in RGB working space to get the most out of my monitor? I'm asking because it would be embarrassing if I had a wide gamut monitor and am working within a sRGB color cap. What are the proper photoshop color settings, so that it works well across the board (browser compatibility, etc)
I am a professional digital artist who specialize in illustrations for print campaigns. So far from what I've seen, whatever's been printed out of what I produce from this monitor has come out pretty much looking the same, so I'm not worried about that. Again, I just want to make sure I'm not careless and am using settings which doesn't make use of a wide gamut monitor.
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Jul 21, 2012
I have decided to put an DDR5 ATI card in my new Win7-64 build for editing photographs, compositing, etc. As I have used nVidia up to now I am unfamiliar with the ATI lines.
I have looked at both discussions here and the ATI site, but it isn't clear which cards will best drive my ASUS higher-gamut monitor. I have to build a new system right now. (Willl not overclock a i7-3770 or use two GPU cards linked with Crossfire. No plans for any gaming.) I would also like to keep this part of the build at a couple hundred or less. I saw that FirePro boards range a lot higher than Radeon, which I realize is gaming-oriented.
I hope to get DVI and Displayport as outputs. I use two 24" monitors, and the older unit can accept only DVI (or VGA, which I would avoid.)Any thoughts about the current ATI line for higher gamut?
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Jun 11, 2013
1. Is there any benefit to using the ProPhoto color space when one's monitor is only standard (sRGB) gamut?
1a. Ditto Adobe RGB with a standard gamut monitor.
- What is the use of retaining more colors if you can't see them?
2. Are there any possible DISadvantages to using a wider colorspace than you can see?
3. If printing, how can you softproof your photos and visualize the printer output, if the file contains colors you can't see on your monitor?
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Nov 1, 2012
So, after many trials and studying websites that take images seriously on different monitors I'm considering giving up trying to get converted sRGB images from my wide gamut monitor to look good in my browser. Sure if you convert to sRGB, in a wide gamut setup, the image will look good on old monitors.
BUT it won't look good on the new ones. Nobody talks about that. It really seems that some of the high end coporate sites are already converting to adobeRGB and putting images on the web that are converted to AdobeRGB and not sRGB. The photos look great in my browser on my wide gamut monitor and those sites' photos seem washed out on the sRGB monitors I used on the same sites.
There is no way for me to know for sure sinced the images are untagged but when I download them and apply the AdobeRGB profile to them, it looks just like in the browser. The sRGB profile washes out the image. Look at [URL] ....
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Nov 11, 2013
I am working on something that will only be seen on a computer screen, and I want to use out-of-gamut colors, but I can't find a color profile that will allow it. Is there any setting I can use that will allow me to use out-of-gamut colors?
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Jan 23, 2014
For, my printer, we need to use the Adobe RGB colorspace. But maybe the printer is even more limited in some areas than that color space. Is there a way to know?
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Mar 7, 2014
I inherited a color from someone who has departed my company. It's a lovely, bright blue. He has rolled out this blue in all of our UI...that rebranding is complete. Now I come in to update the other corporate materials around this shade of blue only to find that it is out of gamut. When I click to correct it, I end up with a totally dull and lifeless shade of blue. The contrast between these two blues is really quite severe. No one except a color-blind person or maybe just a blind person would think they were the same. I am at my wit's end. One thing I am thinking of doing is getting one of those Pantone books and try to find a suitable blue using my own eyeballs because all of this has occurred on my computer monitor. Do you think I will find a better match that way or do you think Illustrator is tops at finding the right substitute?
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Dec 14, 2012
I am looking at an image which has some red areas that are out-of-gamut in the soft proof profile I'm using. It's difficult to preview the areas as red is used to highlight those areas. How can I change the red to be some other color?
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Dec 1, 2012
I was creating a digital scrapbook page this morning, and as I went to save, CS6 crashed without warning (as it does 50% of the time for me when I have a project I am working on). Usually, I go to save, or open a new file to work with and the whole program just shuts off on me without a word. It is simply there one second and gone the next. If I am lucky, it has recovered something of what I have done in the past 10 minutes. HOWEVER today, it crashed, and when I opened it back up, it recovered half of what I had done and immediately crashed again, giving me this error message:
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: Photoshop.exe
Application Version: 13.0.1.0
Application Timestamp: 5022da9d
Fault Module Name: ntdll.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.1.7601.17725
Fault Module Timestamp: 4ec4aa8e
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0000000000027b11
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 9e05
Additional Information 2: 9e057b49cc84a2b32beb0976b9fa1666
Additional Information 3: 9357
Additional Information 4: 9357da59a0d0124ba1ff6db7da3265ac
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This is the first time I have had this happen with an error message. Usually it just closes up altogether and I have to reopen and redo my projects from wherever the last save point was. I have my recovery set to 10 minutes because I seem to lose my files so often when trying to save. This is getting a bit ridiculous and I did NOT have this problem even one time with the CS6 Beta.
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Jun 1, 2004
I'm fairly new to Photoshop and I keep getting a warning box after I try to lasso a section of my picture off. The Warning says "No pixels are more than 50% selected. The selection edges will not be visable"
What does that mean and how do I fix it?
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Oct 9, 2013
with saving on Photoshop CC? Quite often it has happened to me that I will hit Command+S, but I won't see the saving bar at the bottom of the document, and if I then close the document it won't prompt me to save, but if I close the file it won't be saved.
If before I close the file I go to the File menu, the "Save" option is grayed out (as if I had just saved), but the file is not saved. If I close the file, I loose all my work
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May 3, 2013
I recently opened a video in PS CS4. Ever since then I get 'pixel aspect ratio' warning and some of the images I create in PS are distorted on screen or when I tile the window and move a layer form one to the other. I can't figure out how to disable or keep this from happening.
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Aug 25, 2013
Whenever I edit any text - be it editing an existing text layer, or with a new one, whatever text is there just randomly and without warning disappears. Doesn't matter wether I'm changing the color, font, font size or any other type settings. Sometimes I just move the mouse while in editing mode and the text just vanishes.
Made a video of the bug in action. Virtual keyboard on screen so you can see that I'm not hitting any keys to make the text disappears. Latest version of Photoshop, CC, OS X etc.
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Sep 28, 2012
I just installed a 2 TB hard drive and now my Photoshop 7 will not open. A warning comes up that the scratch disks are full .
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Apr 5, 2012
Image (Line drawing). Save for Web (*gif). Receive following warning: "Some names of the files being saved will be truncated to 31 characters for compatibility with Macintosh browsers. To change your filename compatibility options, click the Optimize pop-up menu, choose Output Settings, and select Saving Files."
I could not find the Optimize pop-up menu. Therefore, I did not do this step.After save, I simply went to the appropriate folder and changed the file name to what I originally wanted (i.e., essentially correcting the truncation).
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Mar 19, 2009
I used photoshop to open a JPG file and I got this warning dialog box message:
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The document "xxx" has an embedded color profile that does not match the current RGB working space.
Embedded: Internal RGB KODAK sRGB Display
Working: sRGB IEC61966-2.1
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Then I was offered by 3 options in the dialog box:
1. Use the embedded profile (instead of the working space).
2. Convert document's color to working space.
3. Discard the embedded profile (don't color manage).
The questions:
a. What should I choose between the three options?
b. What is the functionality of the embedded Profile?
c. Is Embedded Profile equal to ICC profile?
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Jun 8, 2008
So I guess my question is for those of you who are experienced with re-touching or image editing, so here goes I have some images and im trying to tell if they have been edited in as far as being able to know with some degee of certainty if in fact the image has been altered.
I guess Im asking for some tips/hints on what to look for and if there is any tell tale signs of editing that would indicate that yes the image has been altered, now I know that there is no way to restore the images to thier originl content but if I could tell if the images have been edited that would be good enough in this case..
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Mar 14, 2012
Photoshop CS4 v11.0.2 winXP pro sp3
If one uses e.g. canvas size and chooses a smaller canvas, normally a panel appears 'the new canvas size is smaller, some clipping will occur, proceed or cancel. Likewise if you print something and its wider than the pagesize, you see a message panel appear, the image is larger..some clipping will occur, proceed/cancel.
These panels have ceased showing, but unless one clicks proceed or cancel on them, photoshop cannot progress,...not responding results. Trouble is you dont know if they have shown up but are hiding. Tried moving the image but it leaves a white space behind and the panel is not behind anyway, or under the main photoshop window.
If you launch e.g. word and print something, then minimise, often the panel then shows itself, from then on its ok ! Until one closes Photoshop then its back to its freezing ways next time after launch until refreshed with Msoft word printing, though that doesnt always resolve it.
It also freezes up when closing images using the X top right of image. I had thought I had spoted a trend to fall over on jpg images but not so I think now.
Tried for a full reinstall, no joy. updated video driver ATI radeon HD3450, the ATI driver wouldnt go on, couldnt find a suitable driver it said !... but the one from the Dell website did, turns out to be the same ! 1/12/2008 8.561.0.0 though ATI have a more recent one Feb 2010.
We also run Sophos antivirus.
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