Paint Shop Pro :: Banding In Local Tone Map
Apr 27, 2012
Having just upgraded to PSP X4 SP1 (14.1.0.5), I spent some time yesterday exploring the tone map layer feature on a few landscape images. The images were in different formats, like TIF, psp image and jpeg. Some were in color, other in b&w. A couple of the images were high-quality scans, the others were from digital cameras (Nikon D200 and D700).
Not wanting to overdo it, I applied the tone maps moderately. In addition, I used a few other layers like HSL, curves etc., all of them used in very moderate levels (e.g., slight desaturation and very modest S-curves). The results were very much to my satisfaction. Looking at them in large format on my monitor, I began thinking of using a few of these, and similar, images for an upcoming exhibition.
Then, I noticed the banding. I became aware of it when I reduced the displayed size of the images. I tried image after image, and found some banding of all of them. Having become aware of it I was also able to spot it on pictures in larger formats.
The banding is rather vague but becomes more evident when the image is reduced in display size, or when an image on the wall is viewed from across the room. It follows the form of the image, presenting itself as a vaguely darker, rather broad band about halfway between the image borders and the image center, in the same aspect ratio as the image itself. I am not sure what constitutes the band but somehow, at least a certain amount of pixels appear to have darkened, following a certain mathematical pattern, forming a somewhat darker rectangle within the image rectangle.
By disabling the other layers I found that the tonemap layer was responsible for the banding. Exaggerating the tonemap, exaggerating the image contrast and/or sharpening the image will make the banding more prominent for illustration purposes.
I would like to work more with the tonemap feature but need to know if there is a way around this problem, or if it will will be addressed in SP2.
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Jun 1, 2012
I'm using X4 and tried Local Tone Mapping for the first time. Any time I try to use it the program freezes and I have to use Task Manager to close it and re-start. It does it on any image I've tried. does it only work on specific file types? Haven't had any other problems with the program.
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From X3 to X4, Corel added a "Block Size" control to the Local Tone Mapping adjustment. Is it the number of pixels over which the contrast adjustment is being applied? It seems that the smaller block sizes reduce the effect's harshness (when it could be harsh, e.g., with faces).
Checked the manual and they forgot to mention it.
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I am getting strange banding when applying the X4 warp brush to a tiff file out of lightroom. Never seen anything like this in X2, X3 or adobe 16 bit brushes. pic below (win 7 pro, i7 950, X58 MB, GTX460)
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The Tone Mapping tool in X4 has changed from previous versions. In X4 there are two sliders (Strength & Block Size)
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I have a question regarding generating Zip-a-Tone or Benday dots. If I have a greyscale image that I would like to print in B&W, is there a plugin or other method that would easily covert the grey parts to black dots while retaining the black and white?
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The painted clip still has the 'soft' indicator. How do I update the painted clip?
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Even in Paint it's just a matter of clicking the desired color to use different colors. Why isn't it so simple in PSP?
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Ok, either I am totally loosing it, or it just ain't happening.
I cannot get the Nik HDR module to work with my PSP X5
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What am I missing??
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Using PSPP X3 Ultimate.
I have some Tif files and jpeg files that are 600dpi and 400dpi. I scanned these images with my Canon CanoScan LiDE 700F scanner. Can i use my version of PSPP X3 Ultimate to change the dpi value? Is this stuck? I wanted to be able to get the 600 and 400 dpi image files (I have some 300dpi's too) down to the 100-250 range if I needed to. I see there are different export options and compression in PSPPX3Ultimate, but I'm not sure if this will do what I want.
I want to export as Tif and Jpeg again.
Are there any good third party photo and or video editors that I can batch edit this with? It's ok to mention pay programs and I'd prefer good quality freeware if there is such a thing. I am sure that my Corel program can do the trick though. I just don't know how and don't want to rescan multiple dpi's every single time. I only need the archives and then get the smaller dpi when needed.
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I'm not prepared to sit and do the math to try and figure out what it is really at.
I have reset the number under preferences/general program preferences/units and it doesn't respond to that either.
For me, this version is problematic and not worth taking the time to learn. I need to be able to depend on and trust the information I'm getting from my software.
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Reviewing the product page, I haven't really found anything that shows a list of upgraded or added features. Most of the things mentioned appear to be in X2 already. Looking at the thread calling for future features, it appears that the things missing are still missing. X2 is serving me well, but there has to be some reason to upgrade?
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