AutoCad :: Redefining Block Causing Xref Draw Order To Change
Sep 27, 2011
I have come across a situation whereby when a user redefines a block in a drawing it is changing the draw order of the xrefs.The block in question is the Plan frame, and is located in paperspace. The user redefines the block and the xrefs change their draw order in the viewport. A regen does not unfortunately correct the issue.Drawings were created with Civil 3D 2010. The plan frame block is a dynamic block.
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Dec 5, 2013
the layer order will not function as soon as the block is made dynamic. I have been creating my blocks the harder way and still have more to do, so what to do.
The last time I asked the Autodesk technician, I was told it is a program (Autodesk) issue which I call a bug. I have tried the draw order and the Textofront still, no better result.
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Jan 31, 2013
...still happening in 2013...any answers out there? I'm getting pretty tired of redefining blocks (sending the wipeout to the back of the draw order) after pasting them into drawings.
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Jul 11, 2012
how to control the draw order of objects created within an array in a dynamic block?
I have a wipeout, which works fine on the array source, but when the array produces babies, it places them infront of everything (which is only logical), making the wipeout useless.
Can I set array babies to have the same draw order as their parent?
(AutoCADLT 2013)
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Feb 24, 2012
after I redefine a block (I make it bigger), I can't select the block by clicking on the part that's gotten bigger. It is as if AutoCAD still remembers the outlining of the previous smaller block and if I click outside this outlining it doesnt select the block. If I save, close and reopen the drawing everything is fine and I can select the block as normal.
// Insert from dwg file.using (dbInsert = new Database(false, true)){ dbInsert.ReadDwgFile(strDwgPath, System.IO.FileShare.Read, true, ""); oidInsert = dbActive.Insert(System.IO.Path.GetFileNameWithoutExtension(strDwgPath), dbInsert, true);}// Regenerate the drawingCADS.Application.DocumentManager.MdiActiveDocument.Editor.Regen();
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Nov 30, 2011
I'm using blocks inserted into drawings to provide the background for the drawing which I'm working on. e.g an architects building layout inserted as a block and then used as the background in an electrical layout drawing.
This drawing being used for the background has been edited to remove various details and layers and give a cleaner background to my drawings, and is saved as its own dwg file. It is then insert as a block into numerous drawings for use as the background.
My question is - is there a way the block can be redefined once inserted into a drawing, without having to re-inserting it via the normal insert > block route, which would prompt the 'redefine block' option. I want to do this so that I could make further changes to the dwg file used as the background (such as the architects building layout), and quickly update drawings with this inserted as a block.
I'm currently working in autocad 2011.
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Jan 6, 2012
I have a title block that when inserted in the drawing 1st time all is well, colours are correct, close the drawing down & re-open & all the colours are redefined to the layer it's inserted on.!
Now, if i press U (undo) 3 times it reverts back to it's orginal state, colours etc. find attached F2 info:
Redefining colors for block: _a0_J .undo Current settings: Auto = On, Control = All, Combine = Yes, Layer = Yes Enter the number of operations to undo or [Auto/Control/BEgin/End/Mark/Back] <1>: end .regen Regenerating layout. Command: Autodesk DWG. This file is a TrustedDWG last saved by an Autodesk application
or Autodesk licensed application.
Now if I do the same thing in MEP2012 all is well! !
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Feb 10, 2010
I had a set of drawings that I needed to redefine a block in and had to go into each drawing and redefine it seperately. Is there a way to redefine it once and then possibly select the drawings this block is redefined in?
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May 1, 2013
In previous versions of AutoCad I would just double click on a block do my changes click the save changes button and then a save dialogue would come up with an option to change the insert point. Did this option go away in 2013 AutoCAD? I do not get this option anymore after I finish editing a block? This is very useful. Why would this go away?
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Jan 30, 2012
How do i change color inside blocks on my xref? (much of the orginal file is builded in blocks). I need to have everything in color 8 (grey).
On attached pictures
The red, cyan and green is blocks on the orginal file.
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Dec 10, 2013
We are having a problem with blocks not appearing after xreferencing a drawing. We can place blocks as normal from the tool palette, but as soon as we xreference a 2D site plan and select blocks from the tool palette, they will not place. You can see them when placing, but once you click to place it, the block does not appear. I have copied out the site plan to a new dwg file, still does the same thing. Everything has been purged and ran an audit in the plan drawing and also the site plan drawing. The block does not show up in the block editor either. I am trying to avoid redrawing the site plan like we had done with two models that were doing the same thing. Remodeling a vessel and rebuilding a skid composite corrected the problem with two other drawings, but redrawing this site plan would take considerable time.
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May 30, 2012
Whenever I insert a title block I get an "AutoCAD Error Aborting" message - FATAL ERROR: Unhandled Access Violation Reading 0x0040 Exception at d69ac126h.
The title blocks have been working fine for months in ACAD2012, and I've even tried saving the drawing containing the blocks as an AutoCAD 2013 dwg to no effect.
The title blocks are 'home-made' and contain a mix of fields and attributes, could this be causing the problem?
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Jul 31, 2009
Is it possible to run a lisp which can extract all the xref names, make a layer with that name and then change the xref on the layer? I have got a similar routine from earlier posts but it doesn't work if any xrefs inserted in paper space (works fine on model space). could change this routine allowing to change the layer of xref in paper space too.
(defun dxf (i a) (cdr (assoc i a)))
(defun c:lxr ( )
(setq ss (ssget "x" '((0 . "INSERT"))))
[Code].....
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Jul 17, 2012
So I'm having an issue with draw order... I have a base with a solid screened hatch that is xrefed into a sheet file in model space. I have text, reference bubbles, dimensions, etc in paper space. When I print, the information in paper space that is above the hatch isn't showing up. Usually the information in paper space would show up when I print without having to deal with draw order...
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Sep 26, 2012
how do I re-order or change the order of images within a file?
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Feb 15, 2013
I like to set up my draw order within my CAD file since I use many XREFs to create my design. Every time I go back into the drawing the draw order reverts back. How can I get it to stay in the order I have changed it?
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May 30, 2012
Is there are tool somewhere where you can make the draw order layer specific. I.e so we have a layer with a certain number of items on it that always appear above another layer with other types of items.
We tend to use leaders a fair bit and they often drop below some of our design elements, ideally we want them to be at the front & have to spend time bringing to front / sending to back etc.
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Oct 15, 2012
I have been unable to make Draw Order work well. The attached file and other ones I created would not work. The goal is to have the boarder and text (color 7) always stay on top after it is created as a block and pasted to any drawing. After pasting it, the text go underneath the shade (color 155). I have used Draw Order, picked the objects in the order I would like, repeated the same steps inside the Block Editor and Edit Block In-Place, still, the block would not work. I never had this issue before - seem to have stared today. Don't know what else to do. The only thing that works is keep recreating the block till one works, which seldom works.
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Sep 5, 2011
I like my Dimenion Extension Lines to be hidden if over another object, so I use the Draw Order button "Send to Back", but it gets a bit tedious to do it every time.
I searched this forum and found a thread that explains how to create a keyboard command to do it, which is useful, but I'm wondering can I set a property of Dimensions (or any other object for that matter) so that when it is created its Draw Order is automatically set to the Back (or the front, if I wish)?
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Sep 11, 2013
We have a project where we have a combination of CAD data and shape files (connected) with various labels in both formats.
They are in the proper order for both 'Groups' and 'Draw Order' in the 'Display Manager'.
We have two separate viewports, created and named using 'Display Maps' with the applicable layers turned to visible as each viewport requires (some common shapefiles need to be display, some different, some different CAD data also). When we do a regen within one viewport the other non-active viewport immediately loses its draw order (CAD objects appear above the shapefile data). If we switch viewports and Regen then the first viewport will lose its draworder.
Could this be a case for Autodesk Subscription and the developer's to resolve?
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Jan 29, 2014
Is there any way to have more control over the Draw Order? "Move to the Back," "Bring Annotation to Front" etc. is so clumsy and not precise.
PhotoShop has a whole Layers palette where you can drag certain layers above others. Right now I'm tearing my hair out because my Electricity layer keeps getting hidden behind the Furniture Layer which must also contend with the Flooring Layer... Isn't there a setting to do this permanently?
To permanently set up which layers will automatically be above or below other ones?
I'd want something like this...
TOP
- Text layers
- Dim Layers
- Electrical symbols
- Electrical appliances
- Furniture
- Wall Cladding
- Flooring
BOTTOM
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Feb 21, 2013
I still having this issue: in Civil 3D 2013 spanish, after intalled SP1, draw order commands (right click > draw order) get a message " command not recognized"
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Jul 3, 2012
What I want to do is to have an area label where the text background mask obscures linework but does not obscure the parcel fill (hatch). I think it looks bad when you have a light hatch where the background mask cuts a big hole in it.
Usually I would use draw order to do something like this. But since the fill and text are part of one object that won't work. I looked to see if there was any way to affect the order in the Parcel Style but didn't see any.
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Apr 22, 2013
I've got a Profile View style set up just the way I want it. The only problem that I have is that the automated fill hatch that I'm using between my existing and finish profiles is showing up behind the grid lines. Unfortunately, we use "lines overwrite" as a standard, so I can't just switch to "lines merge". Any way or a setting that would allow me to move the draw order of the fill hatch above the grid lines?
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Nov 22, 2011
With the code below the draworder is not retained , does anynone knows how to retain the draworder in a .net copy command?
Function MaakKopie(ByVal objIds As ObjectIdCollection) As ObjectIdCollection
MaakKopie = New ObjectIdCollection
Dim doc = Application.DocumentManager.MdiActiveDocument
Dim dwg = doc.Database
Using doc.lockdocument
Using transactie = doc.TransactionManager.StartTransaction()
[Code]....
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Mar 3, 2013
In order to make a 2D sketch, how can I make appear constructions lines in order to draw a top view from the main view?
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Sep 29, 2011
Is there anyway that I can assign a layer to be always in the front/on top of all other layers in draw order?
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Dec 13, 2012
I've used cad now in a basic 2d architectural sense now for 10 years, through various versions.
I have recently dropped back to a 2007 from 2008 (changed jobs) and for some reason the draw order is all messed up i noticed this first through hatching but its on everything including inserted images.
I've tried a few of the solutions on other threads even uninstalling cad and re-installing it and nothing seems to be sorting it. Functions like 'send to back' etc just don't work and the draw orders are all to pot.
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Jun 25, 2009
The draw order toolbar icon is displayed on screen. When I try to change the draw order, I hit the toolbar and get an AI_Draworder unknown command. I even moved the toolbar in a different part of the screen. The only why I can now change the draw order on an entity is the type in the word draworder in the command line. Is there any way to reactiviate the draw order toolbar?
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Feb 8, 2012
I get the following error message when I hit the "Draw Order" button or try an "Express Tool" command. I just installed Acad 2012 and it does not load.
Command:
Command: Unknown command "AI_DRAWORDER". Press F1 for help.
Command: Unknown command "FRONT". Press F1 for help.
Command:
Command: blockreplace Unknown command "BLOCKREPLACE". Press F1 for help.
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Jun 20, 2007
I am using the command Draw Order and would like to use the Quick Select so that I can select all objects on a specific layer. How do I use the Quick Select in conjuction with the Draw Order command?
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