AutoCAD Inventor :: Show Main Assembly As Ref In Subassembly
Feb 14, 2013
I have a sub assembly that I am making a drawing of. The assembly drawing needs to also display the main assembly as a reference part (in phantom lines). The sub assembly is made up of flexible hoses that need their connection points referenced.
Inserting the main assembly into the drawing, so that I can see both the main assembly and the sub assembly together, messes up the parts list and balloons.
There must be a way to dislay the sub assembly in the main assembly and still have the part list and ballons reference the sub assembly?
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Jan 6, 2012
I have a sub assembly with a sliding part in the main assembly but the sliding part is locked, the "flexible" option is greyed out?My head is not in gear this year yet! Am I able to move unconstrained parts in sub assemblies via the main assembly by pulling them with a mouse?
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Jul 22, 2013
I have 4 different sub assemblies , each with a common part , I need to line up all these common parts in my main assembly.
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Nov 19, 2012
How can i use a level of detail from sub assembly in the main assembly?
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Nov 8, 2013
I've got a machine designed that has a couple hundred parts - originally built as one main assembly (with a number of weldment subassmblies). The problem is that the BOM is too large to feasibly have on the drawing and still show assembly detail. I'm trying to avoid a multi-sheet configuration.
So I've grouped certain items and demoted into subassemblies. The problem is that all the subassemblies are attached to a main frame- and I'd like to show this frame in each of the subassemblies as a reference. Is there a way to add a "phantom" copy of the framework to each of the subassemblies to that it can be seen? (and the assembler can see how the subassembly is mounted on the frame) Otherwise all these parts are just floating in space on the subassembly (and constraints are lost on the subs).
I'd like to keep the frame on the top assembly, as it may be customized for future machines, while using the same subassemblies.
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Sep 21, 2011
Currently I m wokring on fairly large assembly of (as it feels to me) 14441 (Total Occurances in Active Document) and 1765 (Open Documents in Session). Its a complex Jump Form system for a sky scrapper.
Now as I went on with the assembly and saving all the parts, bolted connections and subassemblies in network drive - few of them were accidently saved in my local drive. I have setup a project files for this project and other projects and any one in my team changes the project file to open certain model assembly. So now when i open the assembly it goes fine but if someone else in my team opens that up they get errors of unresloved stuff. Now the things for which I need guidances are,
1. If I pack and go the whole assembly to remove the reslove errors - what will happen to my 100s of drawings (idw)?
2. Few of subassemblies had to undergo pack and go so that they can be changed to suit requirement at some other places after being renamed through design assistant. But now when i open my main assembly after setting up my prjecting file - it gives errors of multiple instances for the subassemblies obtained by performing "pack and go", in relation with the orginal sub assemblies.
3. What is the best technique for setting up project, main and subassemblies?
4. What steps I must need to follow performing pack and go? the destination folder can be a folder in project? if it is outside, how to grab it back in project (simple copy, paste)? After Pack and Go do I have to rename even the bolts before i bring the Pack and Go folder back to my project???
4. Can Autodesk Vault solve my problems? How difficult it is to setup and use Vault?
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Oct 31, 2011
My assembly has grown (about 50 parts) to where I need to consolodate some parts into subassemblies for reuse and alternate iterations of the basic design.
When I import the original parts into a new assembly, all of the constrains I created are not there of course.
I've tried creating a new empty part and then deriving a new part from the assembly, but I can't add, delete or edit any parts.
I looked at using Shrinkwrap, Substitutes, iParts, Multi-body Parts, and Multiple Solids but I remain confused.
In retrospect, maybe I should have created the subassemblies between the part and assembly stage but I didn't.
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Nov 15, 2013
I have a frame generator assembly that I created to take advantage of the frame analysis tools. This assembly was later broken down into the main fabricated assemblies (for drawing purposes) using the "demote frame generator component" tools. The basic question is this: can I take one of the "demoted" sub-assemblies and move it to another assembly file all-together?
best way to move the four legs from the platform assembly to the tank assembly after the fact? I was thinking I would just place the leg sub-assembly into the tank assembly and then delete it out of the platform one but I'm not sure of the ramifications.
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Oct 4, 2011
I am working on a project which uses two gear reducers. I have built the gear reducer and saved it as an assembly file so to import it to the assembly of the project. When i import the reducer assembly into the project assembly, the reducer is shown as a single piece, not as a mechanism which i can interact with. But if i select, by doubleclicking, the reducer, it becomes active again. The problem is that i want to connect the reducer to another gear assembly and watch it interact.
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Oct 11, 2011
I was wondering if there was a way to suppress a component in the main assembly, and keep it from appearing in the parts list whenever I create one in the idw. environment? I am creating an iassembly, and generating different file versions from the main assembly in my table. In order for me to create different versions off of this main assembly, it is required that I suppress certain sub assemblies or components. I can't get the suppressed componenets to not show up in my parts list when I create it. I turned off enabled and visibility and it still appears in the BOM. Creating a different level of detail doesn't even solve this.
I know I can manually not have it show up in the BOM, but it becomes very time consuming trying to make certain rows not appear in the BOM table.
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Dec 5, 2013
i have some parts in my assembly wich are rotatable, i made some 2d drawings of my machine.
when change a position in the assembly it also change in the 2d drawing which is logic.
is there a way i can stop inventor from updating my 2d drawing when i change something in the main assembly?
im using inventor 2013.
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Jan 3, 2014
I created a general assembly (GA) and placed several parts and assemblies. After I realized there are too many parts and assemblies in the GA to reasonably place on a drawing. Now I want to remove some parts and create sub-assemblies. Is there an easy proceedure to select some parts in the GA and insert them into a new sub-assembly and (hopefully) keep the constraints intact?
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Oct 3, 2012
Is there a way to run a rule which is part of a sub assembly from the parent assembly?
I have a parent skeleton assembly containing many icopy assemblies. These subassemblies are based of one master assembly which in turn has a common part. (hence why I am using the icopy feature)
This standard part has an ilogic rule which varries the number of creases in a wall panel. eg. when the panel is 1200 wide there are 2 creases, when the panel is under 800 wide there is one crease and when the panel is less than 600 wide then there are no creases.
When I insert the icopy assembly into the master skeleton assembly and click select the widths of the panels they stretch and change to suit my skeleton. However I am having to visit each copied panel to run the crease rule.
Is there an operation or some sort of trigger I can implement to make this rule run as soon as the sub assembly is inserted?
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Jan 4, 2012
I have an assembly with multiple instances of a subassembly. I'd like to remove the subassembly and place the subassembly components (i.e. multiple instances) in the main assembly. When complete, the top assembly would have multiple instances of all the subassembly components.
Component promote seems like the right way to do this. So, I selected an instance of one of the subassemblies components and promoted it. That component was promoted, removing it from the subassembly as placing it in my top level assembly.
However, all the other instances of that component disappear (which makes sense since that component is no longer in the subassembly). Unfortunately, this means I have to assemble and constrain all the other instances that disappeared.
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Feb 4, 2013
We have an issue regarding Parts Lists. We currently produce a 'master parts list drawing' for the jobs we produce. This drawing has 2 rolled up parts list on it -
1 - purchased parts - so buying can order all the required parts in one go.
2 - manufactured parts - so production know which and how many parts to make.
Both of these can be setup in Inventor (using filters) so they display only the correct parts from the BOM. However, neither of these show assembly / subassembly files (and consequently drawings). Is there any way of creating a parts list that can show assembly files only?
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Nov 24, 2011
I have an Assembly2 in Assembly1. I'd like to insert Assembly2 to Assembly 3 without losing any constraints or adaptive feature to Assembly1, while Assembly2 replaced with Assembly3.
Assembly1.iam
- Assembly2.iam
+ Part1
+ Part2
This is what I want:
Assembly1.iam
- Assembly3.iam
- Assembly2.iam
+ Part1
+ Part2
But Assembly2 shouldn't lose any constraints to Assembly1.
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Jun 27, 2012
how to create a simulation of a part in a sub-assembly of the assembled design?
I manage to move only the parts in the assembly. However, I can't move the parts in a sub-assembly of the assembled design.
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Jan 29, 2013
To simplify lets say I have a square plate, vertically positioned. I have a square tube that I wish to cantilever off the plate and weld into place horizontally. EVERY time I bring that square tube in (lets say its a subassembly of its own rather than a part), it is precisely 1 inch below the top of the plate and 1 in in from the left edge.
make that happen where maybe I bring the part in and click on the two faces, it knows the other two contraints?
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Jan 22, 2013
Is there a way of getting a family tree of all the parts and sub-assemblies of a main assembly?
I would like this so I can keep track on what parts need drawings (manufactured parts) and if the drawing has been done.
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Sep 28, 2013
Although the part, marked in blue in the picture, has, to my opinion, degrees of freedom, i cannot rotate it round the main assembly axis, the Z axis.
Maybe it's connected to the 2 holes underneeth it, which i projected?
Or maybe because of the axis i made through the M24 thread?
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Nov 17, 2011
I have a rule in the top assembly to update & want to run this as a final 'clean up' after various rules have run in sub assembly parts.
I have a rule within a part at the end of the line. I want this rule to goto the top assembly & run the 'Update' rule.
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Jan 7, 2014
I create an IDW view of a subassembly by inserting the parent assembly, make it a non-associative view, then turn off visibility of unwanted subassemblies. When later working in the model and adding a part to one of the non-visable sub-assemblies, that part becomes visable in the IDW views in which the subassembly was non-visable, requiting me to edit all veiws in which the subassembly was non-visible. This can be quite a number of instances. Is there a way to prevent this?
I may have a more fundamental workflow problem: I create assemblies composed of subassemblies that need to be detailed sperately. I have found that in order to correctly create a structured BOM and to have the ballon lables to correspond to the structured BOM, I create the drawing views as described above. If I would just insert the subassembly to detail it, I don't understand how to get it to relate the balloon labels in the subassembly view to my master BOM.
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Apr 29, 2013
I have 5 separate .ipt's that were created within a major assembly. Is it possible to generate a subassembly of those 5 separate .ipt's within the major assembly keeping all the constraints?
OR
Do I have to start a separate .iam file and import each .ipt and regenerate the complicated constraints all over again?
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Sep 27, 2013
(in Inventor Pro 2014,64 bit):
I've made an stairs assembly that contains adaptive parts that are all controlled by the assembly parameters.
Here is my assembly and the controlling parameters. The stringers on the side are made with the frame generator and use the "extend" feature to get the appropriate length, as driven by the parameters. The reason I used frame generator is so that I can easily change sizes of the stringers down the road, if needed. I chose to make the parts associative so I could control all of the parameters from within the assembly instead of opening each part separately.
My goal now is to be able to use this assembly (or something similar) as a template to create new sets of stairs, all to be placed in the same main assembly.
I attempted to duplicate all of the parts (append a "2" at the end of each file name and replace components in the new set of stairs with the 2nd version) but ran into problems with the two stringers. I can't figure out what to do to get the Frame00001 and Skeleton00001 to reassociate to Frame00002 and Skeleton00002. So any time I change my slope, the original stairs will end up trying to copy the new stringers instead of keeping the old ones.
how can I make this assembly reference a new frame, and secondly?
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May 13, 2013
I am making an assembly and some components are "over-sized" and to be prepared/cut down and welded in the field.
I would still like to have an assembly file to show the desired result, but when creating a typical assembly, the over-sized parts do not look good or show a nice final assembly.
What would be the best practice to show a visually appealing final assembly, but not have any effect on the individual part and drawing files?
Only thing I can think of it is to use Model features in the assembly environment.
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Oct 7, 2009
Sometimes I turn various parts (visibility) off in an assembly. If I want to turn them all on again without doing it one at a time or selecting them all individually, I find IV turns everything OFF first, then I have to reselect them all again and turn evrything on. Can it be done in one step instead of two? IV2008SP1
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Nov 16, 2011
I am having a bit of trouble with my "Parts List". What I want to be able to do is show the top level assembly quantity in my part drawing. From our fabricators point of view it would be eisier if they could open/pick up a part drawing and see the total quantity needed to be produced before looking at any assembly drawings. So they could produce all individual parts then grab what they need to produce sub-assemblies. I would like to do the same for my subassembly "Part list" where I would show the total need to produce my final assembly.
So far I can only show my quantity as 1 in the parts list for a single part or subassembly, or use a static value and add the quantity by hand which can change through our design/re-design process, not to mention be extremely time consuming.
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Apr 5, 2013
What's the purpose of making modeling edits at the assembly level if those edits don't show up in a drawing of the parts? Sure, it makes the assembly look prettier and more true to the final product, but say I make a bunch of cuts, holes, etc. at the assembly level, but then I make a drawing for one of the parts that was affected... those edits don't show up on the part itself, so all those edits are of absolutely no use to me when I need to give the guys in the shop a detail drawing of how to make the part. Why I would make edits at the assembly level?
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Nov 12, 2013
I am working in one assembly. in that assembly i created all the part with using i part & same part i called in to the assembly & created i assembly. while creating drawing i have facing problem to show the model parameters in to the assembly drawing table. How to link the model parameters in assembly parameters with using i assembly.
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Jul 17, 2013
I want to show one of the parts in a drawing of an assembly in hidden lines, it's a reference part only.
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Oct 13, 2011
I'm referencing an assembly on a drawing. When new parts are added to this assembly, they show up on my drawing, anyway to stop this?
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