AutoCAD Inventor :: MBP - Deriving Base Dim Into Assembly BOM Of Regular Shapes
Sep 20, 2012
I was trying to create a design template in the Multibody Part environment (MBP) for design cases we use almost every day.We´re relying heavily on semi-finished products (plant construction), so 80% to 90% of our parts are plates, beams, pipes and similar. In most cases we create a welding assembly which has only the semifinished parts which are welded together.
What I expected from the MBP was to be able to preconfigure properties like materials and width, length and height before I create parts which then are placed into the assembly.
Now this doesn't work. So I have created some iLogic code that finds the base dimensions of plates (thickness, length, width) and adds this information to the custom properties so it shows up in the BOM.
This works with a template which I have added to this thread. Now what you do is choose this template for the solid bodies which are plates when you derive your parts after you have finished setting up your MBP.
In the template I have embedded an excel sheet, that searches for a numeric thickness value (discrete) in the "thickness" column.After finding the according entry in the excel sheet it will read out the item number from that column and writes it back into the custom properties.
We're using a PDM system the files get uploaded to and if the PDM system finds a known item number it will automatically connect the documents to the correct item master.
Right now this works only with one material for every template. Additionally I want to be able to get a prompt before the part get's saved, that asks me to define a material based on the data of my style library. How to do that with iLogic code pieces?I will work on this further and will update the thread with new functionality.
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Nov 20, 2011
I am designing a component whose internal mechanism is housed in a plastic shell. I want to use the boss feature in the shell so I can hold together the components internally, but the boss feature is only available in the part workspace, but in order for me to know where the internal components are so I can design my shell accurately, I have to be in the assembly workspace.
Now, if I opened the shell as a part alone, and imported (through the Derive command) the parts that need to be fit into the shell, they will appear at random positions, and because you cannot create constraints in the Part Workspace, I have no effective way of holding them where they should go.
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Mar 19, 2012
in v12 seem to say different ways of doing this. Which command do we use? We want to make a simple assembly into a new part, save that to disk, and insert that elsewhere into another assembly.
I assume this is easy to do...and the new derived part will update as the parts in the original assembly are updated also?
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May 8, 2012
I have this assembly which includes a weldment and a derived / mirrored part where i need to identify the COG for lifting with a crane.
As you can see in the image (most components not visible), the COG is way off. The left half is the weldment, the right is the derived/mirrored part. Is there a way to get an accurate COG from Inventor 2010 short of creating a RH assembly instead of deriving the part?
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Jun 6, 2012
I am using INV 2012 and I wan to to know a trick how to convert the weldment assembly back to regular assembly template.
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Aug 2, 2013
I've just started working on a frame generator assembly I was modelling earlier this year; I can't seem to modify the base 3D sketch. The feature which looks like the original 3D sketch is now called the "Reference Skeleton" and I am unable to modify it at all.
I am working on a copy of the original part as I "save as" the whole master assembly when I was last working on the model. I don't know if this would have effected anything.
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Oct 7, 2013
Deriving components is a good thing. Unfortunately, there is no way (at least that I know of) to derive the material fields from the source object. It's a little more complex when deriving sheet metal objects. In that situation, you not only cannot derive the material, but you also cannot derive the sheet metal styles; but you can the thickness.
Either something I am missing through the "derive component" command, or an iLogic rule that would work?
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Jan 24, 2013
How do i create a white base behind an odd shape image, so as it will print as a solid colour on clear plastic?
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Aug 7, 2013
C3D 2012 SP3 on Win 7 Pro.
I want to generate a report by sample line station that gives me the cut/fill quantities between my assembly(s) sub-base links and the existing ground. I have section sheets cut with sample lines and the EG surface DREF'd. Am I correct in assuming that you need to create the sub-base surface, (for every corridor, I have 18), to be able to get the cut/fill volumes? The corridor is Xref'd into the section cut sheets, so no hope of generating a surface in the cut sheets from the corridor. Can you have the EG surface defined in the Edit Material List and the sub-base as a corridor shape and get the cut/fill volumes? I have tried and I get zeros in the earthworks report.
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Dec 12, 2012
In Inventor 2012 I could grab any part (except patterns of course) and move it anywhere into folders, out of folder, up down, wherever, till my hearts content. But in 2013 sometimes it lets me, sometimes it does not. Sometimes I select a group of parts and when I try to put them into a new folder it will place most of them in it tell me the others are not allowed to be moved? I must stress that these are NOT patterned parts, but stuff I have moved around for at least the last 2 versions of the software. Why in 2013 can I not do this as easily or at all in some cases? Is there a new check box checked by default I can't find? I have tried switching the browser between modeling and assembly view and sometimes it works and sometimes it does not.
It does this with both content center and non content center parts.
Inventor 2013 sp1.1
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Apr 6, 2011
Is it possible to add a base depth to the transition lane assembly? I need to do volumes for my road, (pavement, base) but there is a section with a transition (which only has one depth), so that section is off.
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Jul 10, 2012
I'm looking for the best way to create a separate assembly out of various component parts in an existing assembly so that the whole thing can be placed in an assembly as you would a part, I know it's possible to demote components within an assembly but are there any other methods similar / better ?
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Sep 18, 2012
We have an iLogic assembly with to parts in it. Maybe to cylindrical parts. The iLogic rules should do the following.
1. Start a Rule after open document.
2. This Rule starts a Rule in the first cylindrical component.
3. This Rule ask the user for a diameter.
4. The assembly gives this new parameter value to the second component
5. Then the assembly calls another rule in the second component to change it with the new parameter
Everything is working fine when the following combinations are taking place:
1. I open up the assembly out of vault or from a local drive or an accessible server drive
2. I insert the assembly as sub assembly in another assembly from a local drive or an accessible server drive
It don't work with the following situation:
- I insert the assembly as sub assembly in another assembly out of vault
Then the user becomes the dialog "Choose a diameter" twice.
I don't know why, but I have the idea it has something to do with the functionality of inventor to insert a component more than once. If you insert a component in an assembly Inventor gives you the opportunity to add more than one occurence after each other.
change that behaviour? Maybe a switch to change that inventor "add more than one occurence" behaviour.
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Feb 9, 2012
I have encountered a problem with the Tube and Pipe styles.
As you can see, I have a rack assembly with a custom tube and pipe style. A wire as a tube in orange, and a tube support in white. Both have their seperate colorations at a style in the tube and pipe styles editor
When placing the rack assembly into the main assembly, it reverts to the coppor coloration I changed from the original style.
Steps I've taken:
Exported the styles .xml and Imported the styles into the master tubeandpipe.iam
Imported the user created .xml styles into the main assembly file nothing seems to work
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Apr 23, 2012
I am trying to find the interior volume of an assembly (when am I not?!?!) by subtracting the assembly from a block that surrounds the most of it. Somewhere the assembly has a "leak" and I have been trying to use the Cross Section Analysis to track down where the inside lump is connected to the outside lump to be subtracted. Is there a less time consuming way to dynamically drag a plane across and get cross sectional views?
Even better is there a simple way to animate the analysis plane moving across the block so I can hopefully just watch and pause it when I find a leak?
Inventor 2013 (SP2 Update 2), Windows 7 Professional (64-bit), SP1, Intel Xeon 3.07GHz CPU, 12GB RAM, NVIDIA Quadro 2000, Vault Basic 2013
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Oct 30, 2012
it is possible to make a constraint that utilized a parameter of a part within the assembly.
For example, if I wanted to use the thickness of a plate, which I defined in the part, could I call that parameter in a constraint?
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Oct 31, 2011
My assembly has grown (about 50 parts) to where I need to consolodate some parts into subassemblies for reuse and alternate iterations of the basic design.
When I import the original parts into a new assembly, all of the constrains I created are not there of course.
I've tried creating a new empty part and then deriving a new part from the assembly, but I can't add, delete or edit any parts.
I looked at using Shrinkwrap, Substitutes, iParts, Multi-body Parts, and Multiple Solids but I remain confused.
In retrospect, maybe I should have created the subassemblies between the part and assembly stage but I didn't.
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Nov 9, 2011
I want to be able to control the location/position of a component in an assembly. This is easy enough through the iProperties/Occurrence tab and then adjust the location of the X,Y, and Z offsets. Is this possible using iLogic? I have been unable to find a function to access via iLogic. Ultimately I am trying to translate a component about an axis not a pattern.
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Nov 28, 2011
Can I select a bunch of parts in an assembly and say "save these pieces as a new assembly"?
It is just such a needed tool but I cant find an easy way to accomplish this.
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Oct 3, 2013
I have a two part duct fire damper assembly. The IDW has the combined two part assembly, which I know how to turn the CoG on, so that it can be dimensioned. The problem is each piece will more than likely be hoisted separately so I would like to show the CoG for each piece, not the combined master assy.is there a way to do this?
Inventor 2014
Windows 7 Pro SP1
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770k CPU @ 3.50GHz
16GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro 4000
3D Connexion SpaceMouse Pro
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Mar 5, 2012
I want to make some points in 3D sketch base on the Coordinate System that I defined (UCS).Is there any solution to make these points in 3D sketch just by inputing their coordinates in my UCS?
Example: the new UCS origin has (x,y,z) coordinates from the origin.and one of the points has the coordinates of (x',y',z') from the UCS.
So from the origin it has the coordinates of (x+x',y+y',z+z').Is it possible to just use (x',y',z') from UCS directly to get my point?
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Sep 3, 2013
I would like to see if there is a routine that allows my iLogic code to detect if my assembly contains another assembly within it. If my assebly contains assemblies then I don't want "MyRule" to run. Else if it does then I want "MyRule" to run.
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Mar 21, 2013
My Assembly has two possible positions for my piston.
I would like to show both piston positions (top and bottom) in one drawing file; however, in different drawing views.
I have tried using LOD and Drawing View Representations, but it is my understanding that neither of these are meant to be used in this way.
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Jan 24, 2013
I was wondering if there was a way to change the model my base views were linked to.
If I wanted to link the base view to a different model, would this be possible.
When I double click on the base view it shows the file path for the model that is currently chosen; however, it is all grey and I am unable to edit it or choose another file path.
How to change this? Is this even possible? Is it because I have annotated the drawing view that I am unable to change the model path?
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Dec 7, 2011
what could have happened in an assembly when I've changed the cube front view (3D)? The projection has changed automatically (the view) in 2D. In other assemblies didn't happened the thing I've mentioned before even if I did the same thing meaning that I've modified the front view but 2D stayed in the same projection.
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Mar 20, 2012
When starting a new idw, my first action is placing the base view. I would very much like to start a new 2D and have the "Drawing View" window automatically pop up. I'm not sure how to do this. Would it be part of the idw template, or is there a setting I'm oblivious to?
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Apr 15, 2013
We've got a new dwg template and we found that when we bring in a base view on a new drawing, the drawing changed to an idw format.
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Jan 14, 2013
I'm trying to develop a program where I can use a base view based on the current view of a single part. The idea is basically export the contour of the part to the DXL format and save it to be used on cutting machines.
I've found something similar here, but in the context, it was necessary to use the path of the part to work, and I need it to recognize the part that is already opened.
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Mar 13, 2012
is it possible to constrain an item twice to a base, because a task i'm doing requires a tank to be constrained to 2 completely different parts. What i've got so far is one end will go through the whole way.
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Feb 1, 2012
Is it possible to copy text using a base point in an idw? As I have been doing for years in AutoCAD...
Inventor Professional 2014.
Windows 7 64 bit.
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Oct 18, 2013
I kept the code simple
fname = ThisDoc.FileName(False) 'without extension fpath = ThisDoc.PathoPartDocPath = fpath+""+fname+".ipt"oPartDoc = ThisApplication.Documents.Open(oPartDocPath, False)oDrawDoc = ThisApplication.ActiveDocument oSheet = oDrawDoc.Sheets.Item(1)oTG = ThisApplication.TransientGeometryoPoint1 = oTG.CreatePoint2d(5, 5)oBaseView = oSheet.DrawingViews.AddBaseView(oPartDoc, oPoint1, DrawingViewScale, kFrontViewOrientation, kHiddenLineDrawingViewStyle, "Default")
it is a local rule in an idw file that has been saved with an ipt file of the same name saved in the same directory. Now I get the most useless error message ever devised by manking
"The parameter is incorrect. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070057 (E_INVALIDARG))"
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