AutoCAD Inventor :: Derived Component Mass Error
Jul 21, 2011
I think there might be a bug in Inventor 2012 with regards to derived components and their physical properties, otherwise I've never noticed it before...
If I derive a component and use an IAM as the Base Component and choose the 'Single composite feature' as the option then the physical properties of the newly created derived IPT is the same as the original IAM. That is expected behaviour when you choose one of the Solid options, but a Surface shouldn't have a mass - by definition.
If I use an IPT as the Base Component, I get the expected behaviour, i.e., a surface doesn't have a mass.
The whole purpose of creating a 'Single composite feature' as a surface is unnecessary if it's going to have physical properties...
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Aug 23, 2012
have one assy comprising of a valve, made in steel, an actuator made in aluminum, total weight combined is 36 kg.
I make this assy a derived ipt.. i have tried all the output options, single solid, multy solid and the weight is not the same.. since its a new ipt has its own material, ok makes sense.. .. So i use composite, i get the correct weight (yay), but now i cant turn the visibility off on the 2d drawing, in certain pipe spool view representations.
What is the correct procedure for turning multi material assys into an ipt.. to get the correct weights and get the drawings to work properly?
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Aug 13, 2013
I was wondering if there is a way to bend a derived componet. I have an odd extruded part and would like to cut and bend it. I want to do it this way so I can also include the cut length before bend. I know of frame generator, but am not able to use it since if falls out of the structure of how our files are saved.
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May 25, 2012
Is there and easy way to change the base component of a derived part?
The way I use to do it, is to rename the base component. Then open the derived part, and point to the new base component after the "error message".
In the idw environment there is a "Replace Model Reference"" which does it for 2D drawings.
btw. I use Inventor 2013.
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Jan 26, 2012
We are having an issue when we replace a component in Inventor Pro 2012. When we replace a component, the name in the browser does not update to the new component. We've even tried to close and re-open the Inventor assembly and that does not work. We end up manual double clicking the name in the browser and type in the new component name.
Inventor Product Design Suite Ultimate 2012
Dell Precision T7500 Workstation
Xeon Processor
16 GB of RAM
Nvidia Quadro FX 5800
Windows 7 x64
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Jul 25, 2012
II need a way to tell if a component occurence is a virtual component.
I'm using a For Each loop to cycle through all of the components in an assembly, and if the component is itself an assembly to set the LOD to "Custom". I'm using the definition document descriptor object for this. It all woks fine until the loop comes across a virtual component which doesn't have a definition document, so I need a way to check if the component is virtual and needs to be skipped.Here's the
Option ExplicitImports Inventor.LevelOfDetailEnumSub MainiLogicVb.UpdateWhenDone = TrueDim doc As AssemblyDocumentDim oLOD As LevelOfDetailRepresentationDim oAsmCompDef As ComponentDefinitionDim oComp As ComponentOccurrenceDim oComps As ComponentOccurrencesdoc = ThisDoc.DocumentIf.
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Oct 3, 2011
I've been looking for a solution to remove the unit string ie Lbs, g, kg from the value given from a 'Mass' value in a text string.
As you may all know, creating text and having a 'physical property - mass' value...the unit string is there...
Lots of people on here have the problem...no-one has got a solution.
Until now...
Basically...open the part you need to get the mass property of in your text string.
Follow the instructions on this webpage...this is the first part...
[URL]
Basically, this creates a Mass property value in the parameters table that you can call on as a text parameter.
It's similar to the custom iproperty model - mass but NOT the same.
Once you have done this, you can go to the drawing of the part and create a text string in the drawing and call it up as shown in this procedure. BUT it still has the unit string.
Here's the best bit that you want to know...
To get RID of the unit string...open up the part again from the drawing...click on the parameter icon...find the user parameter...in the Nominal value column, right click on the value and you get a pop-up that gives you 3 options...
Custom Property Format, Make Multi Value & Delete Parameter.
Click on Custom Property Format.
The pop-up window comes up...showing you the property type...in my case...the 4 left columns read Text, g (grams), Format & Precision...
On the right hand side I have a Preview of the text...then 3 check boxes...Units string, Leading Zero's, Trailing Zero's.
Units string is checked.
Uncheck it.
Close it...Save your part...go back to the drawing and hey presto!...the text now shows the weight you require as a straight value...no units!
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Jan 11, 2013
I am trying to make port rims for pipes that can be swapped in and out of an assembly. However, the ports will all be different sizes and located differently so I need the cut to be part of the port rim component, but affect the entire assembly it is part of. I've been trying to get this to work for the better part of a day now,Here's a picture of what im talking about. I'm running Inventor 2008 by the way.
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Aug 30, 2012
I have an assembly which has a few components suppressed.
My end results is another copy of the assembly (with copies of the all the parts) in another directory
Now i am able to create copies of un-suppressed parts using; (this allows me to SaveAs assembly components which are not suppressed)
DocumentsEnumerator = ThisDoc.Document.AllReferencedDocuments
And save a copy of the assembly using
ThisDoc.Document.SaveAs
I also added the fllowing snippet (which I am not sure what is does), but it does not work for me
Component.SkipDocumentSave = true
When I open the newly created assembly, I still see the suppressed components in the model browser
I want to either;
Skip saving the of the components in the model browser (i.e. the Assembly)
OR
Delete the suppressed parts in the Assembly, so that they do not save altogether
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Apr 11, 2012
I am tryng to upgrade from LT 2009 to LT 2012 and recieve this message "annot update some system component now. Please reboot the machine and try again" We are running Windows Professional XP 2002 with SP3.
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Jan 6, 2014
I've drawn a cross section,When I select them,I choose to create forms,The following warning appears.
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Jan 16, 2013
I am creating a tunnel with a profile consisting of multiple radios. In the attached images can be displayed. The problem I have is that by selecting one of the two tunnels and create a void with the profile of the second tunnel and perform cutting geometry indicates that I can not and I get the error message.
If I perform the same exercise to select a tunnel and create a void with a square profile, rectangular or cylindrical deaja if I make the cut geometry. I select the void that did work and edit it to add the profile you require and at the end of the model throws me the error again.
We are working on four computers of the same features and the same version of Revit Building Design Suite 2013, has installed the update 2.
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Dec 26, 2012
I build a program to "*.dll" by Visual Basic 6.0+AutoCad2006,when it runs in Cad VBA Environment,if it gets error,I try to get start again,It shows message:"Rutime Error 429:ActiveX Component Can't Create Object",and then message "440:Automation error".But sometimes,it works all right.Thats troubled me for a long time,I can't find a reason, so can't improve my program.
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Apr 30, 2013
Reference Manager crashing when starting.
Error message states: AutoCAD component has stopped working.
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Nov 6, 2011
Now I want to know how to exclude derived parameters of an assembly and of occurrences in this assembly.
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Aug 21, 2013
After I have created new part by derive from assembly, it have some part moved don’t likely assembly master.
I’m used inventor 2013 with windows 7 (64 bits)
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Jul 17, 2013
is it possible to get the material of the derived part in vba ?
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Nov 10, 2011
I've got a sketch in a part that I want to derive into its own part and place in an assembly. I can do that no problem, but the text on the sketch is just empty boxes. Is there any way to bring the text through to the derived part?
The text is orientation information that I want in both the part and the assembly, not for permanent display but just to hover and display or switch on when needed. Maybe there's a better way of doing it if what I'm asking for is impossible.
IV2013
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Apr 11, 2006
We have written an add-in that allows you to specify position and non-uniform scaling while creating a derived part.
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Some potential uses of this add-in include:
1.. To simulate an iFeature where you add or remove material - use Sculpt to add and Split to remove material. Unlike iFeature you could edit the source and make the changes be reflected in the derived part.
2.. To simulate an iFeature that places a sketch - useful for designing frames.
3.. To design a progressive die - you might want to place, with relative displacements, multiple parts representing different stages (or configurations) of a formed sheet metal part
4.. To realign (rotate) a part - sometimes skeletally driven parts (for example, four-bar linkage members) are not aligned with their "natural" coordinate system, causing skewed drawing views
5.. To derive a part with different scaling factors in X, Y and Z directions, which is useful in mold design
6.. To integrate two skeleton systems that do not share the same coordinate system
7.. To create scaled sketches (this should become useable after R11 SP1)
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Sep 27, 2011
Possible to have more than 1 derived part in a part.
And is it possible to select on which plane and location the derived part is to be?
I have a part with a derived part but now I want to add another part to it. is this possible?
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Jul 9, 2012
Most of my part files contain at least one sketch which is derived from another part file. These derived sketches do not update like they did in our previous versions of Inventor.
If you change the geometry on a sketch in the base component, the updates will flow through to the derived parts. If you add geometry, it also works. However, if you delete any geometry from the sketch in the base part, it will not be deleted in the derived sketches in the second, third, etc. parts. The 'deleted' sketch geometry remains in those parts until you go into all the parts which derive from the base part and manually delete it. This is a significant problem for for our workflow.
Is there an option I have missed that changes this behavior so that deleted geometry in a sketch will also be deleted in any derived sketches in other parts?
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Jul 19, 2012
I have a vba project that can extract an assembly BOM.
However, it does not output derived parts. What is wrong with my code, shown in the attached file?
What I am trying to do is create a ipt file of a "Laser-Cut" component. Use this component to make another component with drilled, tapped holes in it. Then use this plate, containing the drilled and tapped holes in an assembly.
I need to output this "Laser-Cut" part in my vba created BOM. Is it possible?
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Jan 28, 2013
I would like to be able to add iproperty values to a derived part from the assembly..!
Breaking it down..:
When i run the rule, it creates a derived part from the Assembly i have open.
The iproperties from the assembly should be copied to the new Derived Part. or just set direclty from the rule, doesn't matter...
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Sep 20, 2012
As a recent convert from ProEngineer to Inventor, if it is possible to vary the parameters exported from the source model in the derived part. The following article (see link below) explains the functionality in ProE - note the ability to see the model tree of the source part and also the ability to have varied items (dimensions, suppress features etc.) URL.....
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Sep 21, 2012
I´m trying to measure the base dimensions of simple geometric shapes. I started out with plates since they are easy to measure as long as they sit in 90°, 180° and 270° positions relative to the origin. Then Measure.ExtentsLength, Measure.ExtentsWidth and Measure.ExtentsHeight will give me the base dimensions of a plate.
However, if the plate sits abitrary relative to origin this will obviously fail, since Measure.Extents only measures in x,y,z
Is there any way how I get positions of the geometry that is in the part, like corners surfaces on the B-REP so I can calculate the dimensions properly for a plate. I´m not sure if this is possible with iLogic. I have a strong suspicion VB.net would be needed for this.
Another problem I have is that derived parts don´t get triggered to run a script when I change the geometry in the Multibody Part and the rule is set to run by any modelgeometry change.
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Jul 22, 2012
Whenever I place a view of a derived part (or an assembly containing derived parts) the body of that from which the part was derived is also displayed, even though when viewing the part or assembly file they are invisible. It is almost as if there is a "ghost" reference to the parent body of the derivation - surely there must be a way to turn this off?
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Nov 8, 2012
I'm trying to derive a surface .ipt file into my model. After selecting the plus include option, the part file is inserted into the feature manager but the object is no where to be found.
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Feb 8, 2012
I created a derived part and I broken the link with its parent. Is there a way to relink the two parts?
Autodesk Inventor 2011
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Jan 27, 2013
I got this code earlier from Curtis_Waguespack, and i would like to add a setting... When i run this rule it Derives the assembly, but LOD is set to Master, i would like it to be set to my own (Configurator) LOD...
I don't seem to be able to find anything in this code, that defines LOD...
So far im doing ok with the standard ilogic code, but when it´s API or VBA code im lost.. which leads me to this.. i've been searching the forum back and forth to find a code that performs the feature "Shrinkwrap", and somehow everything i have found so far does not work... even the code example in Inventors help menu under programming, Therefore im trying to solve this with Curtis's code as staring point..
'set a reference to the assembly component definintion.'this assumes an assembly document is open.Dim oAsmCompDef As AssemblyComponentDefinitionoAsmCompDef = ThisApplication.ActiveDocument.ComponentDefinition 'define the path and file nameDim sPathandName As StringsPathandName = ThisDoc.PathAndFileName(False)
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Jan 12, 2014
it's possible to create a derived part using only some of the features of the base components i.e. I've got a funny shaped part with a bunch of holes in it, and I need another part with exactly the same shape but totally different holes (location and size)I know you can do this with the different solids in the part (only use some of the solids) but I haven't been able to figure it out with features, if it's possible at all.
I could probably create one base part (just the shape) and derive both parts from that, but then I've got a part lying around doing jack.using IV 11.
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Apr 24, 2012
Open the attached file 207665-124.ipt. how their is only one Solid Body, but the iam needs to be updated because the user added one more part to the assembly. As soon as it updates now instead of one Solid Body I have 2. I don't want 2 and this is not typical. Even if I derive the 207665-120 into a brand new part file, it is only one body. What is causing this to seperate into 2 bodies? I tried to re-create this from scratch and can't, but he has several files like this that need updates and the 2 bodies causes problems with the holes.
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