AutoCAD Inventor :: Browser Component Names Do Not Change After Replacing Component
Jan 26, 2012
We are having an issue when we replace a component in Inventor Pro 2012. When we replace a component, the name in the browser does not update to the new component. We've even tried to close and re-open the Inventor assembly and that does not work. We end up manual double clicking the name in the browser and type in the new component name.
Inventor Product Design Suite Ultimate 2012
Dell Precision T7500 Workstation
Xeon Processor
16 GB of RAM
Nvidia Quadro FX 5800
Windows 7 x64
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Aug 11, 2011
I'm finally wrapping up work on an iLogic Configurator project and have started to brainstorm the best workflow to get this "Smart Assembly" into the design group's hands. I had been anxiously awaiting the new "iLogic Design Copy" feature in IV2012, but just recently learned that users are unable to effectively rename any components with this command.
Is this really true? If we can add prefixes or suffixes, what's stopping us from changing the entire filename? We haven't upgraded to 2012 yet, but it seems like this may be a silly and unjustifiable restriction to a command that would otherwise save our designers hours of "file-management" (ie, manually renaming parts in Explorer, component replace in assy's, replace references in idw's, etc) each week.
Long story short, it seems that every workflow I've come across has had some sort of silly limitation that makes it undesireable for my application:
My top-level assembly contains all of the rules, and changes parameter values in the referenced skeletal parts. It also swaps standard parts for other standard parts as needed.I need access to rename ALL files (idw's, top-level assembly, subassemblies, and base components) while still maintaining/updating all internal hyperlinks between them.iLogic rules must be carried over to the new copied components (the existing "Copy Assembly" command strips the assembly of all rules). In light of the iLogic Design Copy's apparent shortcomings, any better workflow?
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Oct 19, 2010
My office procedures dictate that when we place a content center part that we do so "as custom" for several reasons that are irrelevant to this question (I can expound if needed).
My question is: If I have an assembly with a content center part that is placed "as custom" and I use the component replace tool (CTRL+h) to replace it with another content center part that has already been created and placed "as custom" in another file, how come I get a new CC component that is not the one I selected?
It appears that I am getting a CC part from the same family as the original when what I need is the component to be replaced with the one I am selecting.
In other words: when I say replace "this" with "that", how come I get something else entirely? This functionality works perfectly on non-CC parts.
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Dec 19, 2013
I have an assembly with two similar items in it and have written code to replace the component based on a given selection. If I try to change item one, nothing happens. If I change items two, it changes both item two as well as item one. In the attached screenshot item one should have a full cover panel and item two should be open; however, they are both the same. I have stabilized the browser by changing the names to "Leg One:1" and Leg Two:1) and the components that are being replaced are standard assemblies to be replaces with other standard assemblies.
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Apr 29, 2013
I have geometry not updating after replacing a component in an assembly.
I have drawn part A and in the assembly environment I have projected cut edges on a XY Plane in a 2D Sketch.
After replacing component A in the assembly with part B (not identical but very close) i was expecting the projected geometry to update. But it doesn't. The "local update" button is greyed out in assembly mode. also the Rebuild command does not seem to update the projected geometry.
I can see the new 3d shape and the old projected geometry. How to get the projected geometry to update?
Inventor 2013 Build 176 SP1.1
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Nov 15, 2012
I use Inventor 2013 as a single user, my company is about to invest in Vault and we are about to introduce a new automated Part Numbering Scheme as well.
I use a spreadsheet and iLogic rules as ‘Product Configurator’ to generate new iterations of my master assembly.
Now, the Assembly Browser in Inventor may display my assembly tree and its components by Part No or File Name or Default Browser Nod. See attached image.
This can be selected and set on the ribbon: click Assemble tab Productivity panel Rename Browser Nodes.
For example at Top Level Assy I have a rule to run other rules in components. Should I change the displayed components names on the Assy Tree the rules loose reference. So they wouldn’t run.
(for example: iLogicVb.RunRule("PANEL ASSY 2ndS:1", "Tie Rods & Washer Plates 2ndS")
PANEL ASSY 2ndS:1 is a component with a rule in it "Tie Rods & Washer Plates 2ndS"
This is the default Browser Nod Name and it could also be
- AAA-0111 --> Part No
- PANEL ASSY 2ndS.iam:1 --> File name
- PANEL ASSY 2ndS:1 --> Default
I suppose this can be avoided by not changing from Default, but what an inconvenience should we have to.Unless if there is an other way to reference our components in iLogic?
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Jul 25, 2012
II need a way to tell if a component occurence is a virtual component.
I'm using a For Each loop to cycle through all of the components in an assembly, and if the component is itself an assembly to set the LOD to "Custom". I'm using the definition document descriptor object for this. It all woks fine until the loop comes across a virtual component which doesn't have a definition document, so I need a way to check if the component is virtual and needs to be skipped.Here's the
Option ExplicitImports Inventor.LevelOfDetailEnumSub MainiLogicVb.UpdateWhenDone = TrueDim doc As AssemblyDocumentDim oLOD As LevelOfDetailRepresentationDim oAsmCompDef As ComponentDefinitionDim oComp As ComponentOccurrenceDim oComps As ComponentOccurrencesdoc = ThisDoc.DocumentIf.
[code]....
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Jan 11, 2013
I am trying to make port rims for pipes that can be swapped in and out of an assembly. However, the ports will all be different sizes and located differently so I need the cut to be part of the port rim component, but affect the entire assembly it is part of. I've been trying to get this to work for the better part of a day now,Here's a picture of what im talking about. I'm running Inventor 2008 by the way.
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Aug 21, 2013
When I try to replace a component in Inventor 2014. It replaces it but does not update the tree in the browser. I have to manually delete the part and place a new one in.
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Aug 30, 2012
I have an assembly which has a few components suppressed.
My end results is another copy of the assembly (with copies of the all the parts) in another directory
Now i am able to create copies of un-suppressed parts using; (this allows me to SaveAs assembly components which are not suppressed)
DocumentsEnumerator = ThisDoc.Document.AllReferencedDocuments
And save a copy of the assembly using
ThisDoc.Document.SaveAs
I also added the fllowing snippet (which I am not sure what is does), but it does not work for me
Component.SkipDocumentSave = true
When I open the newly created assembly, I still see the suppressed components in the model browser
I want to either;
Skip saving the of the components in the model browser (i.e. the Assembly)
OR
Delete the suppressed parts in the Assembly, so that they do not save altogether
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May 10, 2012
I have an iLogic controlled assembly with sub assemblies that are also iLogic controlled. The main assembly calculates some lengths and turns some subs on and off and then updates all the subs. The subs also calculate some lengths and turn some parts on and off. I have a rule in both the main assembly and copies in the subs that control the LOD to make sure that it's set to custom before anything else runs.
Now I may be misunderstanding something, but it appears that it's possible to have a sub assembly set to one LOD but be referenced in a top level assembly as a different LOD. In other words I have a sub that shows in the top level browser as Master. If I open this sub and set it from within the sub to custom LOD and switch back to the top level assembly it is still set to master there. It appears that this is what my LOD rule is also doing, setting it to custom in the sub but not changing the top level reference.
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Dec 10, 2012
it's possible when i copy my assembly with rule in who suppress or unsuppress my component, the parameter part name change same to my new part name in new assembly??? Now when i copy or when i use design assistance the name of my part dont change in rule?
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Sep 19, 2012
I'm working on a main assembly. I want to edit the i properties of components within a sub-assembly, this is fine for "RING:1"
iProperties.Value("RING:1","Project", "Description")="A79-H020B001"
but I get an error message when i try to edit the iproperties of a patterned component within the sub-assembly.
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Nov 22, 2011
I have a wall of frames, if you will, and some frames within this wall are different sizes. When doing the BOM, I want to be able to combine anything that has the same stock number as well as the same cut length. The only way I have thought to do this so far is to cycle through each stock number and if the cut length is the same, I override the quantity of one and change the BOM Structure of the other to "Reference".
How can I change the BOM Structure to reference without selecting the part or going through the BOM Editor? Is there some VBA code I could utilize? I am striking out by solely using iLogic.
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Oct 1, 2013
The commented code does not work. I want to be able to open a part and change its size parameters before i open the assembly. this code will run as an external rule in a new empty file.
If i can do it without opening the part, that is even better. Test can I open a part, change a param, then close part.
Dim fname As String
fname ="C:Workspacemy_progchanF_BB_L.ipt"
Dim pDoc as PartDocument = ThisApplication.Documents.Open(fname,False)
pDoc = ThisApplication.Documents.Open(fname)
These are just attempts to find a syntax that works. I need the method to change the parameter.
'param = pDoc.PartComponentDefinition.Parameter.Param("TKNS")
'pdoc.parameter.Param("TKNS") = 8
pdoc.Save
pdoc.Close
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Aug 11, 2013
I have a part called "bracket" which has a multi-value parameter "mass" which can be 100, 200, 300, or 400 and controls the width of the bracket.I have an assembly into which I have placed thee brackets.
How do I set different parameters for each of the instances of "bracket"?I want one bracket with mass = 100, one with mass = 200, and one with mass = 300, such that I have three brackets of different widths.
I must not be searching on the right text in Google because I find only ways to change the value of the parameter within the core component (such that all brackets change and end up the same width).
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Aug 23, 2012
How can I change size of the content center part in an assembly based on parameters using iLogic.
There is also the possibility that I would need to replace from content center. I have been unsuccessful in adapting previous examples to work as I need. attached is an example of a part I am tryig to change with parameters and the start of some iLogic. I am using inventor 2012.
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Jan 16, 2013
What I am trying to do is insert a part into an assembly file using iLogic. I basically want to mimic Inventor’s “Place” command using ilogic, maybe something like this:
oPath = ThisDoc.Path & ""
oFile = "File.ipt"
Component.Place(oPath & oFile, False)
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Dec 7, 2011
When we do DWG we may have more than one Assembly on one individual DWG. When going to put the weights on the DWG through the text/Physical Property insert yadayada it keeps referring back to the original assembly. Even after changing which component we want the info to be drawn from, it refers back to the original? Are we not doing this right? Program glitch?
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Aug 14, 2012
I have an assembly which has components mated to a radial surface, I need to locate the center of a round slot against an axis, I have X Y coordinates, how can I constrain that part to those X Y coordinates?
Attached is a picture of the assembly.
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Aug 27, 2013
I'm using replace on a sub assembly but want to write a parameter change to all the parts in the sub assembly as & when they appear.
An error occurs when I try to write a parameter to a part which isn't in the sub assembly - makes sense but how do work around this?
First try was this:
If Component.IsActive("SS_12.5mm Insln:1") = True Then Parameter("SS_12.5mm Insln:1", "Material") = Insulation
but "SS_12.5mm Insln:1" isn't here (by design) - I want a Component.Exists type comand - possible?
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Jul 10, 2012
When I replace elements with iLogic the Inventor Browser is not automatically refreshed.
E.g. I have a file A.ipt and I replace it with B.ipt then in the Brwoser will be shown: A.ipt:1, even when B is already inserted.
Is there some refresh, like "Update Browser nodes when done" ?
These both has no influence on it:
iLogicVb.UpdateWhenDone = True
InventorVb.DocumentUpdate()
By the way. To Update the Browser manually, I have to rename the block nodes (From Filename to Filename). So it's only opening up the Renaming Function and then hitting "ok".
If there's no direct function to update the Browser, maybe there's a way to do the manually way by iLogic?
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Jun 28, 2011
To be able to folderize component patterns seems to have been surpassed once again in release 2012. However, I am wondering if this is a setting issue yet I cannot find settings for what can and cannot be placed in folders, if they exist. And I wonder if it is a setting issue because during a training class I visibly watched the trainer place component patterns into a folder and once I still cannot do so.
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Nov 27, 2012
How to apply forces to a component who is spinning. More specific i am interested in the centrifugal loads distributed over the component.
Take an inducer wheel for a turbocharger. It is a complicated component and very difficult to calculate by hand. it is spinning with high revs, and the rev limit it set by the centrifugal forces acting.
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Aug 12, 2013
I made a new positional representation (maybe it's connected, i don't know), and removed all the constraints from a part, but still can't move it.
It has other parts connected with it, and bolt, but i think i removed the governing constraint, but, cannot move it.
It's an assembly of about 5 parts, should i zip and attach it?
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Apr 19, 2012
I have a sheetmetal assembly with helical shaped parts. I need to place about 50 little brackets and some corresponding rollers along the length of these helical pieces. The spacing is even so a pattern would be perfect, except I don't know how to get it to follow the shape of the part. The brackets are located to slots in the helical parts which were made with a rectangular pattern in the unfolded state. I tried to do a "feature pattern select" but it only saw the rectangular pattern as it is in the unfolded state (a straight line). I then gave up on patterns and started working on manually mating them into place but realized that the geometry of the slot was distorted (theory) and didn't leave me with any useable surfaces.
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Dec 20, 2012
I've just upgraded from 2011 to 2013 and come across this problem.
In 2011 I could edit a component from the top level anywhere in the tree - i.e. From an iLogic rule in the top level, I could edit a component in a subassembly.
This doesn't seem to work in 2013 - I can only edit the first child of a component.
In 2011 I could simply use :
compo = Component.InventorComponent("TOP")compo.Edit
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Mar 15, 2012
I have a component pattern with 3 components in it and I need to remove one of the components from the pattern. How can I modify the pattern through the API? I have tried various things but I do not appear to be able to change the pattern.
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Mar 29, 2012
I'm working on an iLogic application for an assembly. I need some code to edit a particular component occurrence and then open one of that component's iLogic forms.
Basically automating the keystrokes that I'm doing manually (Select, right-click and edit, then open the iLogic form for that part). Do I have to scroll through all occurrences in the browser or is there a way to call that component by name?
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Mar 1, 2012
How can I include component suppression in the idw views? I suppress a component in the ipt or asm, but it doesn't
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Nov 21, 2012
I tried to import an stl file into inventor 2013 and it worked. I now have that ipt file that I ahve attached to this thread. The only problem is that now I cannot manipulate my solid (i.e. put holes in it).
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