AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Perpendicular Pipe In Profile View?
Dec 9, 2013
I have my alignment running up the page, it is the red line. I can show the profile of the pipes and structures that run with the alignment but I want to she the elevations of the crossing pipes, not just the circle in the structures where they cross but the elevation of the crossing structures and pipes, (str 102-103 and 104-105). Almost like a profile that is cut and looks north (up) instead of the cut looking east west.Can I turn my profile view or take a view at a certain station or do I need to make alignments that run east west to do this? I have included a pedicure for reference.
I have a pipe network and a profile for it. Some of the structures have 2 inlet pipes. The pipe system more of less goes down a road, so every now and then there is a cross pipe into a structure. I have masking turned on under the structure style->profile setting. I want to see the cross pipe, so I found on here that all I need to do is under structure style->view direction (profile)->make Structure Pipe Outlines visible. I did that and still no cross pipe shows up. If I turn the masking off it is there.
As it stands, if you view a pipe network in a profile view with no vertical exaggeration, you expect to see what is essentially an accurate long section in all directions. However, rather than being applied perpendicularly from the center line (or arguably the invert), diameter is applied strictly vertically.
Now, this made sense in the days of hand drafting when it was far easier in a vertically exaggerated profile view to simply measure the dimension vertically rather than determining how the exaggeration affects the perpendicular distance. But with the computer doing the measurements, is this really a problem anymore? I've debated that to some degree it's strange to consider that the crown of the pipe may be at a (slightly) different station than the invert, but this is simply fact in the field. And I've also thought that it's nice to be able simply measure vertically in an exaggerated profile, but I can't remember the last time I dug my scale out of the drawer.
All the theory aside, the real problem appears when you try to profile a vertical, or even a near-vertical, pipe. The fact that the diameter is applied vertically means that the vertical centerline is shifted the length of the pipe radius downward and upward. In other words, rather than seeing the invert and crown of the pipe, you just see one line, though it's really two lines on top of each other.
I wrote this off for the last 4 years of basic Pipe Networks because I acknowledge that storm/sanitary outside the building is rarely designed vertically, but with 2013's release of the Pressure Pipe Network, I really expected Autodesk to change the way the profile views represented pipes.
Need getting pipe top elevation in profile view data band? In labels it's possible to perform calculations via expressions. In data bands – not. Inablity to get pipe outside top elevation in profile view leads to dead end in my hunt for smooth workflow.
I created a pressure pipe with no bends since my alignment is fairly straight. However, I'm changing the elevations on the pipe using a combincation of the profile view snaps and elevation edits in the properties and it doesn't restrict my deflection to my deflection settings not does it add any bends.
Is this still a missing function in Pressure Networks? Or is there something I'm missing?
I cannot find a way to only have pipes in profile view to only show the invert (bottom) of the pipe. All my pipes are running around the same elevation and the profile is pretty busy with both invert and crown of pipe shown.
Every structure for my Sanitary pipe network is showing up properly in the profile view except the last 2. They're showing as rectangles when they should have the cone on top. I've checked the properties of the correct ones and the incorrect ones and they're the same style. I looked at the parts and I couldn't see anything wrong with them. In the screenshot you can see that the 3 manholes on the left are the correct kind with the cone whereas the 2 on the right are just rectangles.
I've been having a problem with a pipe structure not showing up in a profile view. I have a single pipe network with everything (pipes and other structures) showing up in the profile when I select them, right-click, and click on "Draw Parts in Profile". Like I said, this works for all the other pipes and structures in the profile except one. When I select the structure individually and try to draw it into the profile, it still won't work. A friend told me to make sure that the structure is within the surface, and it is.
I clicked on a pressure pipe in profile view and selected "Edit Pressure Network in Profile...". The panel that came up has a button that says "Follow Surface". I did that and selected all of my pipe and entered 4 feet below surface for my water main and it put alot of deflections in my pressure pipes. How to remove the deflections?
If I have a Crescent Road (P - shape) where the Alignment returns to itself, when i draw pipe network parts in profile, the pipe network gets drawn wrong, ie. the tie-in structure at the intersection is drawn at the wrong station.
My understanding is that the structures will get drawn at the station closest perpendicularly to the alignment, so the structure is going to the end station as opposed to the beginning simply because the end segment of the alignment is closer.
Is there any way to make a structure use a different perpendicular station (without shortening the alignment)?I don't want to move alignment or structure.
We have a big piping job coming up and as Civil3d still lacks some of the labelling abilities we want in the profile view bands. I am updating some old vba that adds a profile line of the invert of a pipe network to a profile view effectively tracing along the bottom of the network like I know a lot of people do by hand.
My original code works on assuming that the start and end structure are at the start and end of the alignment in the revised code I want to allow for situations where this is not the case.
Leading to my question is there and easy way to find the distance a profile view part is drawn along the parent alignment or do I have look at writing my own function possibly extracting a polyline from the alignment and finding the distance using intersectionwith and distancefrom functions with the structure.
Using part builder, I created a new pipe part for an odd-sized CMP arch pipe. In plan view, the pipe looks good. At first glance, I thought the pipe was drawn correctly in a profile view, but I realized that the pipe was displayed with the invert located at the wrong place in the profile view. I thought this was because the insertion point of the new pipe part that I had made was placed at the incorrect location in part builder.
So, I swapped out the incorrect pipe size for another one that I knew was correct, and then deleted the incorrect pipe from the pipe parts list, and went back to part builder, and placed the insertion point at the invert of the pipe; then saved the edited pipe part, ran partcatalogregen, added the "corrected" pipe part to the pipe parts list and swapped in the new corrected pipe size to the pipe network. However, the pipe still displays incorrrectly on the profile view.
The pipe data is correct in the pipe properties: the invert is stated to be located at elevation 20. The overall height of the pipe , 38" (3.1667') is correctly displayed on the profile view. But the actual location of the pipe invert is not shown at the correct location, elevation 20, on the profile view.
I'm trying to add assign a Pipe Network to a profile view Band in Civil 3D 2011. I was using COM to add profiles to bands because I couldn't figure out how to do it in .NET. But when it comes to pipe networks I don't see how you can do that with COM. How the .NET implementation is supposed to work? Here's the code I have that works for COM, except for the pipe networks. I essentially need to assign the correct pipe network to the band.
public static void AddProfileToBand(this ProfileView profileView, ObjectId profObjId, List<BandItemInfo> bandStyleInfosFromSet, ObjectId profileBandSetId){ using (Transaction tr = Application.DocumentManager.MdiActiveDocument.TransactionManager.StartTransaction())
when creating a pipe network, and the slope of the pipe end is say at a 35% from start to end, the crown of the pipe is at a 90 degree angle from the invert elevation (straight up). So if I have an invert elevation of 288.3' the pipe crown elevation is at 292.5'. I need to show the end of the pipe crown perpendicular to the invert elevation so that it reads 292.0'!
I'm trying to model a tunnel network and I have come across a problem . The problem is best described with an example:
A sort of tunnel - or shaft - has to be blasted in order to make an access between the ground surface and a certain parking cavern. This access will be an escalator and the tunnel will be blasted in a 30 degree angle to the horizontal level. Normally when I design tunnel cross sections (CS) the contractor will blast the designed CS perpendicular to the designed profile.
I drew the tunnel CS with sub assembly composer and created an assembly in civil. I then made an alignment and a profile according to our design. And here is the actual dilemma: Civil draws the assemblies so that the assemblies are vertical and what I need is them to be drawn / modeled perpendicular to the designed profile. Is there a way to do this?
I will attach a .pdf and a .dwg of a surface profile along the alignment created (and tidied up) with civil 3d, in which I have tried to illustrate the problem in case my description isn't clear enough!
Pipe network storm pipes: Fairly new to Civil3D and trying to set up parts list for the storm sewer pipe and would like the plan view to appear as it does currently. We use a polyline for centerline of pipe, similar to dashed linetype but line and space are the same, width set to pipe width.
I tried moving a Profile View and even though I selected everything at once and selected a base point and destination point, the Profile View Station and Elevation labels moved with a different offset than the Profile View itself. ?
I'm working with a structure profile label style and it seems like the only way to anchor the position of the label is based on offsets from the structure itself... Any way to position the label based on the top of the profile view, so that I could make all of my labels horizontally aligned above the profile view?
I have yet to produce a profile. I created a polyline and turned it into an alignment.
Looking at alignment Sample(3), I see that it is not superimposed over your surface. The polylines are, but the alignment is not. That will disallow creation of a surface profile.
Is the sample5 an alignment that sits on the surface? how come there is still no profile?
Attached are survey points that created the surface of a road embankment portion that caved-in. The road is very near a reservoir shoreline.
1. How can a surface profile be produce? I/'ve use line to change it into an alignement and then create a proile , then a profile view. But the the surface profile is missing.
2.the points having higher elevation are the top edge( road level) of the cave-n . A few few shots were take before the shorline elevations.
3. What the best way to come up with the rock volume to fill the cave-in given this surveying points., Also the shoreline elevation will be lowered some more while work is being done since the fill is not allowed to fall in the reservoir.
I have an issue with a profile referenced into a plan sheet that is shifted when I view it in the plan sheet viewport. The profile stationing is correct in the profile dwg file and in the plan sheet dwg it is referenced into. But when I switch from model space to paper space in my layout sheet (the file the profile dwg is referenced into) the profile moves to the wrong station within my profile view in paper space.
The profile start station is 0+00, but it shifts to -1+00 within the viewport of my layout sheet.
The scales are the same between the dwg files (50) and the Annotation scale matches the dwg scales.
I am a C3D newbie who used ground survey points (Serrano_EG_surface) that generated a Civil 3D surface. The white line is consist of arc segments that I turned into polylines and then into individual CL alignments. The first alignment ,which has its left and right offsets do not generate the profile view that I needed to be created. There was a prompt asking for a profile to choose, but I don't know where in the drawing or in the propector panel to click on.
1. Are the ground survey points good enough so that any alignments over the those areas can provide me a surface profile, a design profile, cross sections every 50 feet, so that I can submit a preliminary drawing for environmental permitting. ?
2. When I check the object browser, the aligments preceding each other are not in the same elevation it seems. Do I have to to transform each of the polylines first into a 3d polyline and then an alignment so that I can create a profile.
3. Eventually , I wish to connect all these alignments to model a 1.5 mile rural road (more like an access road to a water reservoir).
4. What's a best techniques to keep track of modeling a road.This question pertains to e.g the object browser as one of the useful aid. I've also used the inquiry tool but not used it for its full potential.
Trying to make some changes to improve reading. The pipes are going to center of structure and would like to change the appearance but maintain the lenght to the center or in last case to the structure wall.
The image explains the 'problem'. Red line should be the correct appearance
I'm trying to create a profile of a pipe. I have elevation data for the pipe and natural ground I've created a surface from the natural ground then I created and alignment. Next I created a profile when the profile was completed I got broken lines and spikes for my pipe not a polyline that followed the natural ground. I'm at a loss as to how I could fix this and I'm very new to AutoCADD I'm a GIS person.
I draw 2 pipe profiles, who are crossing eachother. When i want to draw crossing pipe in one profile (IN PIPE NETWORKS), that pipe erased in the profile. What is the problem. I want to be seen crossing pipes in both profiles. In red color I draw a pipe which is missing.
