Revit :: View Range Of All Other View Types
Jan 17, 2013
Having been on Revit for more than 8 years there's nothing more difficult to explain to a new user than how the View Range functions. It's one of the first features one must deal with with Revit and yet it can yield illogical results without proper use. The #1 youtube video on Revit's View Range is 20 MINUTES long! Here's my top reasons why View Range is illogical:
1. It does not behave like the "view range" of all other Revit view types. Sections, Elevations, 3d views are all based on a simple concept, a direction, and a 3 dimensional bounding box. With floor plans, elements can appear (or not appear) in a floor plan that is clearly cut so that they shouldn't if the user doesn't understand the rules (and there are lots).
2. It has "Additional View Range Rules" (or exceptions to logic), 7 in fact, which takes Revit Wiki over a page to describe. Each rule is complicated and very situational. No other Revit view types have exceptions. Why floor plans need to have special exceptions is absurd and political. These exceptions must also slow down regeration time of the model since it must process different groups of elements individually to determine their view state in the floor plan.
3. Modern architecture does not adhere to simple boxy shapes and user's need to trust that their view range is actually cutting the surface as they see it. No exceptions or special rules.
4. View Range has a Top and a Cutting Plane elevation. It is completely illogical for any element to appear above the cutting plane. This can easily lead to misinterpretation of 2d drawings because some elements may not appear in section even though they are above the cutting plane. Views should have a cutting plane, direction (up or down in this case) and a depth. Simple, just like all other Revit views.
5. The View Depth "range" is rarely used effectively. The only practical use is to show low roofs of buildings with higher roofs, or possibly foundation elements. Scope boxes or Underlays can accomplish this task much simpler. All the additional line-styles that accompany View Depths are just unnecessary and add more things for the user to manage. It's time to kill View Depth.
It's in Autodesk's best interest to make Revit a user-friendly application. This is one area that needs attention. Keep Revit easy to use without having to watch a 20 minute video.
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Sep 20, 2012
Our template has many view types for floor plans but we don't need them all on every project. I know you can duplicate, but I don't see a way to delete.
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Sep 4, 2012
I have a third floor view that continues to show the 2nd floor room fill colors, despite the fact that underlay is off. Floor 3 is visible and present (though) I can't grab it because I don't control that work set. The third floor room fill is not visible unless I make the cut plane 10'. That suggests that the 3rd floor is out of place, I think. But it seems fine in section.
I can't figure out if this is a bug in the view range or a problem in the model.
Note that the upper range is 12'2". The bottom of the range is offset 4' to show a parapet/roof of an adjoining structure. The clip depth is not effecting the visibility of the 2nd floor room fills at all, though it does effect the 3rd objects like the parapet.
I would think the clip depth would get rid of a lower floors room fill, which I assume is associated with the floor object.
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Aug 31, 2012
How do you set the view range to show a window with a sill height of 5'-0" and a dog door with a head height of 2' in the same wall on a floor plan view?
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May 15, 2012
I've got some troubles creating a proper ceiling plan. What goes wrong (imo) is that my wall sweep is shown on my ceiling plan while it shouldn't.First image shows the ceiling plan. (on image 3 you will see the wall sweep I mentioned in red).
This image shows the view range used.This images shows the section (right), 3d (top left) and ceiling plan (bottom left) highlighted the wall sweep.Why / how do I prevent this wall sweep from showing up?
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I created few families then loaded into project when i placed them all one of the type was not visible in Level view.
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Mar 8, 2011
I'm trying to make a Wall Types Legend using the Legend function in 2011. I did the first wall type just fine, placed it in section, tagged the material, etc. Now when I go to place another wall in a section view, it tells me the component is not visible in selected view. They are both new construction phase, stacked walls.
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Jan 10, 2012
We have our first project in Revit that we are having to split among multiple sheets because of the size of the building, so I have made 3 dependent views from the main overall view, named them, cropped them and placed each part (A,B, and C) on separate sheets. Now that I am trying to do enlarged toilet plan views, I want to tag the plans with the plan callouts on the 1/8” sheets that are the dependent views, but all the view tags are referencing dependent view A since it is the first dependent view in the list. If I change sheet A to be named Sheet X for instance, all the view tags now reference sheet B since that becomes the first dependent view alphabetically. I want them to reference the sheet they appear in, but I can’t seem to figure out how to do that, even though they are in different dependent views completely and within the crop region, they all default to the first dependent view in alphabetical order.
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Feb 18, 2011
I am a new user to this may seem simple. When I render a 3D view the roof disappears in the render view, but when I switch to show the model it is there.
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Feb 9, 2014
I have a 3D view and when I turn on the clip boundary everything disappears, which leads me to believe that the clip boundary is off to the side somewhere. I zoom out & out, but can't find it.
Is there a way of resetting it? I could just make a new view, but I'd have to set the perspective again.
In this view I have hidden all the objects except for the one (a book case) that is being detailed. Every time I model something new it shows up in this view. Is there anyway of stopping new objects showing in a given view?
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Sep 4, 2012
Why Camera Views is different from all other views in Revit. It is simple not possible to add a view reference, or a tag etc. to reference to a camera view.
Of course I can put in a 'dead' symbol to show where it is in plans, but that's simply not the same...
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Jun 18, 2012
I am working with a seris of 3d views that I want o make bigger. How can I do this.
I want to keep the view the same but changed the "scale" of the view/perspective
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Apr 29, 2013
I have a sheet with views on it. For some reason I can't select one of the views. I can't activate it. And the view title is gone. I can go to the browser and find it under the sheet and then go to open.
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Jun 23, 2012
As I was assembling a project, I noticed that a red line showed above the first clip - it seems to be the selected range. I didn't know I had selected a range and seem to be unable to get rid of it. Titles I placed in front of the first clip are ignored when I try to play the project and rather it starts with the first clip, the selected range clip. When I deleted the first clip, the selected range remains. How to I get rid of this selected range and what did I do to select it.
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Aug 8, 2012
there i wanted to know a method to control my view frames range or how to do so in the sheets ,
as per attachment i get the Profile view , out of frame
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May 17, 2012
what kind of drawings we can use AutoCad and for what kind of drawings we can not use AutoCad. How to understand it.
Justify the use of CAD for the production of a range of drawing types.
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Also on a side note, as each of these items will have a different name, is there a way that I can add these markers and then have each one with a unique name?
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I started with a Left side view of a part and created a sectioned view right down the middle so you can see the insides from another view. the part is pretty big so i used a Break to shorten it to fit the page. I also placed a smaller and separate isometric view of the same part and want this view to inherit the same break. How can I do this? If I go into the display options of the iso view, all the cut inheritance options are grayed out and can't be clicked. I've seen this done before, but i'm sure i missed a step somewhere.
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Nov 28, 2012
1. I had trouble with profile view of the alignment line shown. What step am i missing? Are there things that is turned off?
2. How can I best come up with the right volume to fill.
3. Do I need to learn the grading tools? or could i get buy with a section profile from the alignment. ( it is not even an alignment yet)
4. How to I render a rock fill in this cave-in.
The attached aerial image , has survey or cogo points that are imported to surface, to become surface points. . So I wanted to create a surface profile below and an outline of fill above it. Iideally the side profile would look like a trapezoid, where the base is the surface proile and top would be the design embankment.
But the reason , a surveying crew went down and took shots at the shoreline and a couple shots around the cave-in walls (higher elevation on the cave-in wall cannot be surveyed, although I coud have used a laser , did not) is so that a more accurate volume of the cave in can be obtained. I tried to label how far the road edge is from edge of the cave-in . Norice the higher elevations are the top edge around the cave in area.
The ouline for the embankment will be a mild slope then breaks to a more steep slope. like 4 :1 , then 1.5:1
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I have never gotten this to work, but had put little effort into it until recently. Thus far I have checked my project standards to make sure "match sheet views to view" is checked to "yes".
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the VPLAYEROVERRIDESMODE is set to 1
I am working on drawings that are in my current project through project navigator. I am using ACA 2010 and not sure what else I need to do. I turn off all the unwanted layers in the view drawing, then create a sheet and xref in the view to model space- all the layers reset, and I again have to turn off all the unwanted layers. If I change a layer color in the view drawing, it does not change in the sheet drawing upon save and refresh.
I hate wasting time repeating the same task over and over....
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i draw up all of my walls, i connect them properly, cleanup etc. then i want to trim them with my roof slabs and what i see? i see my walls suddenly dissappear in 3d view but are still correctly shown on plan view? i know it has something to do with roofline because when i tried to project them automatically to ontu my roof slabs the walls dissappeared too!
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