Revit :: Nesting Families - Putting Various Doors Together?
May 24, 2013
I'm putting various doors together, and we have a variety of frame types / door leaf combinations - including occasions where door leafs are inserted in glazed screens (These are timber doors / screens).
It seems to make sense to have the door leaf as a family, then nest those into hosted door frame / screen family. This would allow the 3 or 4 different door leaf types to be switched into the frame / screen combos.
The principal seems to work - but before embarking on the process of putting these together, are there any consequences that should deter me, or that I need to take into consideration ?
I created a keyplan as a generic annotation family, with masked regions representing the various segments of the building. For some reason, my palette of hatches within this family template is very limited, and I cannot choose a dotted pattern for the masked regions, which is an informal company standard.
From what I've seen, adding new hatches is a cumbersome process. Since a simple dot pattern is available in project files though, is there a simple way to add that hatch to this family file?
I am trying to take a countertop that I have in this bathroom remodel floor plan and place it onto a separate sheet so that I can send it out for pricing. I created a new sheet "countertop details" However, it is not letting me add it - I keep getting this warning "Can't create this kind of element in this view in the current mode." I know the answer is in one of the parameters but I am still trying to get used to this program and teaching myself.
I have a pile family where i have created a Shared Text parameter under Identity data called Vert Load. I have nested this into a pile cap family in several locations and have the same Shared Text parameter. If i select the pile in the pile cap family i have the option to put a value in the properties dialogue box under Vert Load. The pile cap family is now loaded into my project and the parameters shared in the project. When i select the Pile cap in my project then i have the option to add a value for the Vert Load but in this pile cap i have 3 piles and i want to give different values for each. When i select an individual pile within the Pile cap family then the Vert Load value is greyed out.
I want these vert Loads to appear in a schedule... I've attached a couple of images.
I am doing a window nested family with two windows that have three voids to perform the wrapping of the stucco layer and the gypsum layer independently, but in the nested family I get a wall sleeve between both windows. I have used voids with parameters in the nested family, but when inserted in the projects the voids don't cut anything. See the images.
If i delete a family from the project browser, under families expanded folder group, will this delete them from the project and reduce the file size?
Best way to delete just unwanted families that have been loaded into the model?
I know of purging the model but i believe this will potentially delete tags i may want and other information that just not being utilized at the time of purge.
What determines the default elevation when inserting familes? I have a wall hosted family that always defaults to 4'-0". I have tried setting the default elevation in the family but it always defaults back to 4'. I have this issue with other familes as well.
I know I can set the elevation when I insert it but having to so that every time seems pointless when the elevation will never change for a family.
I'm trying to work out how to modify an existing, out of the box Revit family, a window, to create a new one, and struggling with it.
What I'm looking to do is to take the family (from the metric uk template) "Windows_Sgl_Horz_Bars.rfa" and add a second window bar in. What I'm finding is I can copy the window bar extrusion easily enough, but getting it to constrain to the sides of the window frame as the middle one has been done (position not changed from the original) , it doesn't work, when I flex the model I keep getting "constraints are not satisfied" warnings.
When I move the copied extrusion to the sides it looks like it is snapping to the constrain line of the pre-existing window pane, I don't understand why the new alignment with an existing one doesn't work.
I had been looking to generate a lot of new family content by modifying what has come out of the box, if I can't fathom it, its going to be a lot of work.
I'm a new Revit user and can't seem to get the hang of fill patterns.If I go to Manage>Additional Settings>Fill Patterns Ise a list of a couple of dozen or so fill patterns with the Drafting Button selected.
But when I try to modify the fill region in a family I'm only given a choice of about six of the patterns.how to "load" the other pattern types.
How to restore families purged from a project? Specifically, a new user purged everything not in use from the model, and is now unable to place a 2x2 ACT ceiling. Drawing one in another file and pasting into the model has no effect. This family is not listed in the Imperial Library; is there some other location for these system families?
I have a family that has over thirty types and I need to update a single parameter value across all types to be the same value. Is there a global way to perform this task instead of the current copy/paste/paste/paste method I am doing. I thought about exporting to a catalog and modifying the text file in Excel, but I lose my formula when I do that.
If this isn't possible, this would be a good wishlist item, Autodesk - where a family has global parameters that are consistent throughout the family, regardless of type.
how to get rid of English system families in country specific project template? The problem is that originaly that project template was made in English version of Revit with English template. Since it is very custom template I have just translated English families into local language when we moved to localized version but I was not able to do that with system families like System Panel for Curtain Wall, basic Mullions and also I had trouble with Solid hatch.
still on this family quality control audit... i've come across some new and entertaining behavior.
several fmailies (face based) flip host sides with their flip controls as expected, but if i mirror them , instead of flipping along the mirror line as an accurate reflection, they ALSO flip top to bottom, AND around the face.
the right family in both views is the original, the left is the new mirror. (plan and elevation views in wire frame included) you can see it landed within the wall, and upsidedown.
I am trying to produce a Camera symbol to indicate the position of where a photograph has been taken on a site plan. I also want to be able to rotate the symbol to indicate the direction of the view and further to have a horizontal tag that shows the photograph number. Therefore I have been trying to create two families, a Camera Symbol and a Camera Tag so that the former can rotate and carry other information such as Date, Title etc., whilst the later needed to be kept horizontal. In trying to do this I started trying to create a 2D Model Family for the Camera but you cannot, it appears, to create a 'filled region' in a model family but it does appear that you can have a Symbol imported into the family. This I have tried to do by creating a Camera Symbol but when imported it remains invisible despite the visibility setting for annotations being set to visible. Since an annotation cannot reference an annotation, is there any way that I can create a Camera Symbol that does what I wish? I feel that I might be missing something fundamental.
I am using groups for each type of apartment in the project i am doing, Some groups are mirrored, In my door schedule i added a parameter (instance) for my door orientation (Left or right orientation). The problem is when i note a door ina group as left and the same door in the mirrored apt needs to be right it keeps the same note for each door as it thinks the group in not mirrored.
I need to model a wall in plan which has a section that is inset on one side. The inset having beveled faces. I have achieved this using a vertical wall reveal with a profile to suit the shape of the inset. This works very well until I place a door in the centre of the wall where the reveal has reduced its width, the reveal disappearing and the door appearing in a full width wall.
Does this mean that a reveal cannot be used in this way and that I should find another way of modelling the reduced width wall? See drawings below:
I am trying to add some storefront doors into my storefront that is already placed. The normal doors work, but I can not load in, any other door types from the "doors" family component library. It will only let me use the type that is already loaded in. It doesnt even give me an error dialogue, just the circle with the slash through it when i click on "Open" to load a door in.
There are several i-drop items in a doors catalogue, having selected three for a tools pallette, one item is a 2 panelled door, a regular fitting, some infills are glass, so how to assign materials?
The principal panels do not list in Object Display, seem to be 'untouchables' while outter frame, stops, muntins can be assigned hardwood or softwood finishes. How to change a plain yellow object into a regular door, with or without glass?
Creating a particular object for use in a revit project. I have attached a group of images.
In short, it is an arched wall that is made up of a series of masonary objects (6types), each with the same dimensions, the only difference being they have different openings. The objects just need to be represented as a solid masonary for now. The individual objects need to be shuffled around the arch to test different configurations.
Would the best approach be to develop the objects as generic model families?
Basically the question is if it is possible to explode families similar to blocks in AutoCAD.
Here is an example: A Family made for placement in the model has 2 nested families. Once placement is done is it possible to eliminate the initial family so only the nested families remain? All the parametric values can go away that’s fine and the nested families are also shared if that matters.
Since I come from AutoCAD and started with Revit v2012 it is basically like a block within a block which you could just explode so much until only lines are left.
We have suddenly had some problems showing up in some of our families.
Some objects are becoming 'locked' as if they are parts of one of the default family templates. These parts are not components of the template, they were created in-house.
Is there any reason why this might occur, and how do we fix it? Quite a few families, including some that are very complex are no longer editable.
An example is attached - some components are deletable, but you will find that most of the dimensions and linework behave as if they were part of the template (generic annotation) and cannot be edited.
I have some families in a project such as sinks and cabinets that are wall hosted, but when I try to place them on the existing walls of the linked file they do not go there. Is there a setting to get around this?
I have a project containing 4 similar groups, which were mirrored and went through the "Fix Groups" error. I think I made them unique to avoid ungrouping.
The issue I'm having now is that one of these groups has a couple doors in it that once existed in the design and are now no longer necessary. However, they were deleted at some point, but still exist when I highlight over the group (the first attachment shows an overlapping door highlighted in red and the purple location has a set of double doors--see second attachment). No amount of tabbing will allow me to delete them and I can't ungroup them. Do I need to just start over with a similar group? Or can I somehow find these doors and delete them?
Is it possible to make a true cut in windows or doors. Sometimes windows or doors needs different presentation in different levels. I can do this by changing the door or window family to a generic model family but why can i not do this in the door/window family?
(too the left generic model family and to the right the door family)
how to change the dimensions of the doors and windows in revit 2013 when i select the door ,, the door dimensions are in like M_single-flush 08153/2134 mm etc but my college project is having the dimensions in inches
