Revit :: Undeletable Elements In Families - Objects Locked
Dec 5, 2012
We have suddenly had some problems showing up in some of our families.
Some objects are becoming 'locked' as if they are parts of one of the default family templates. These parts are not components of the template, they were created in-house.
Is there any reason why this might occur, and how do we fix it? Quite a few families, including some that are very complex are no longer editable.
An example is attached - some components are deletable, but you will find that most of the dimensions and linework behave as if they were part of the template (generic annotation) and cannot be edited.
I wonder if you can make a table of families picking "elements of details." Why? I mean, when I do a detail included screws, foams, sealants, etc ... all these elements I have done as families of "elements of detail."Now I want to collect these items on tables and include calculated values to determine the amounts thereof.
I created a keyplan as a generic annotation family, with masked regions representing the various segments of the building. For some reason, my palette of hatches within this family template is very limited, and I cannot choose a dotted pattern for the masked regions, which is an informal company standard.
From what I've seen, adding new hatches is a cumbersome process. Since a simple dot pattern is available in project files though, is there a simple way to add that hatch to this family file?
I am trying to take a countertop that I have in this bathroom remodel floor plan and place it onto a separate sheet so that I can send it out for pricing. I created a new sheet "countertop details" However, it is not letting me add it - I keep getting this warning "Can't create this kind of element in this view in the current mode." I know the answer is in one of the parameters but I am still trying to get used to this program and teaching myself.
I have a pile family where i have created a Shared Text parameter under Identity data called Vert Load. I have nested this into a pile cap family in several locations and have the same Shared Text parameter. If i select the pile in the pile cap family i have the option to put a value in the properties dialogue box under Vert Load. The pile cap family is now loaded into my project and the parameters shared in the project. When i select the Pile cap in my project then i have the option to add a value for the Vert Load but in this pile cap i have 3 piles and i want to give different values for each. When i select an individual pile within the Pile cap family then the Vert Load value is greyed out.
I want these vert Loads to appear in a schedule... I've attached a couple of images.
I am doing a window nested family with two windows that have three voids to perform the wrapping of the stucco layer and the gypsum layer independently, but in the nested family I get a wall sleeve between both windows. I have used voids with parameters in the nested family, but when inserted in the projects the voids don't cut anything. See the images.
If i delete a family from the project browser, under families expanded folder group, will this delete them from the project and reduce the file size?
Best way to delete just unwanted families that have been loaded into the model?
I know of purging the model but i believe this will potentially delete tags i may want and other information that just not being utilized at the time of purge.
I'm putting various doors together, and we have a variety of frame types / door leaf combinations - including occasions where door leafs are inserted in glazed screens (These are timber doors / screens).
It seems to make sense to have the door leaf as a family, then nest those into hosted door frame / screen family. This would allow the 3 or 4 different door leaf types to be switched into the frame / screen combos.
The principal seems to work - but before embarking on the process of putting these together, are there any consequences that should deter me, or that I need to take into consideration ?
What determines the default elevation when inserting familes? I have a wall hosted family that always defaults to 4'-0". I have tried setting the default elevation in the family but it always defaults back to 4'. I have this issue with other familes as well.
I know I can set the elevation when I insert it but having to so that every time seems pointless when the elevation will never change for a family.
I'm trying to work out how to modify an existing, out of the box Revit family, a window, to create a new one, and struggling with it.
What I'm looking to do is to take the family (from the metric uk template) "Windows_Sgl_Horz_Bars.rfa" and add a second window bar in. What I'm finding is I can copy the window bar extrusion easily enough, but getting it to constrain to the sides of the window frame as the middle one has been done (position not changed from the original) , it doesn't work, when I flex the model I keep getting "constraints are not satisfied" warnings.
When I move the copied extrusion to the sides it looks like it is snapping to the constrain line of the pre-existing window pane, I don't understand why the new alignment with an existing one doesn't work.
I had been looking to generate a lot of new family content by modifying what has come out of the box, if I can't fathom it, its going to be a lot of work.
I'm a new Revit user and can't seem to get the hang of fill patterns.If I go to Manage>Additional Settings>Fill Patterns Ise a list of a couple of dozen or so fill patterns with the Drafting Button selected.
But when I try to modify the fill region in a family I'm only given a choice of about six of the patterns.how to "load" the other pattern types.
How to restore families purged from a project? Specifically, a new user purged everything not in use from the model, and is now unable to place a 2x2 ACT ceiling. Drawing one in another file and pasting into the model has no effect. This family is not listed in the Imperial Library; is there some other location for these system families?
I have a family that has over thirty types and I need to update a single parameter value across all types to be the same value. Is there a global way to perform this task instead of the current copy/paste/paste/paste method I am doing. I thought about exporting to a catalog and modifying the text file in Excel, but I lose my formula when I do that.
If this isn't possible, this would be a good wishlist item, Autodesk - where a family has global parameters that are consistent throughout the family, regardless of type.
how to get rid of English system families in country specific project template? The problem is that originaly that project template was made in English version of Revit with English template. Since it is very custom template I have just translated English families into local language when we moved to localized version but I was not able to do that with system families like System Panel for Curtain Wall, basic Mullions and also I had trouble with Solid hatch.
still on this family quality control audit... i've come across some new and entertaining behavior.
several fmailies (face based) flip host sides with their flip controls as expected, but if i mirror them , instead of flipping along the mirror line as an accurate reflection, they ALSO flip top to bottom, AND around the face.
the right family in both views is the original, the left is the new mirror. (plan and elevation views in wire frame included) you can see it landed within the wall, and upsidedown.
I am trying to produce a Camera symbol to indicate the position of where a photograph has been taken on a site plan. I also want to be able to rotate the symbol to indicate the direction of the view and further to have a horizontal tag that shows the photograph number. Therefore I have been trying to create two families, a Camera Symbol and a Camera Tag so that the former can rotate and carry other information such as Date, Title etc., whilst the later needed to be kept horizontal. In trying to do this I started trying to create a 2D Model Family for the Camera but you cannot, it appears, to create a 'filled region' in a model family but it does appear that you can have a Symbol imported into the family. This I have tried to do by creating a Camera Symbol but when imported it remains invisible despite the visibility setting for annotations being set to visible. Since an annotation cannot reference an annotation, is there any way that I can create a Camera Symbol that does what I wish? I feel that I might be missing something fundamental.
Creating a particular object for use in a revit project. I have attached a group of images.
In short, it is an arched wall that is made up of a series of masonary objects (6types), each with the same dimensions, the only difference being they have different openings. The objects just need to be represented as a solid masonary for now. The individual objects need to be shuffled around the arch to test different configurations.
Would the best approach be to develop the objects as generic model families?
Basically the question is if it is possible to explode families similar to blocks in AutoCAD.
Here is an example: A Family made for placement in the model has 2 nested families. Once placement is done is it possible to eliminate the initial family so only the nested families remain? All the parametric values can go away that’s fine and the nested families are also shared if that matters.
Since I come from AutoCAD and started with Revit v2012 it is basically like a block within a block which you could just explode so much until only lines are left.
I have some families in a project such as sinks and cabinets that are wall hosted, but when I try to place them on the existing walls of the linked file they do not go there. Is there a setting to get around this?
I embedded a label (Generic Annotation) into some families that is only shown on plan views. Is there any Label that can be shown in the Room elevation views. I attached a simple familie with a label.
This is linked to me previous door query. We are working in a bit of a vacuum here and I am really interested to see how people set up their door families / types / instances for scheduling - as we are struggling to identify a 'best practice' approach.
At present we have set up a host family for the doorset that contains the opening and framing, with a nested doof leaf family in which is nested a door furniture family (and possibly vision panel face hosted family as well). It seems quite complicated, and in the current setup all the door / frame / leaf parameters are established in the door Type, and we have no Instance parameters other than Mark, level etc.
We are trying to set up a system where we will have Types for:
Main Door Assembly Type (dictates the frame type, overall fire and acoustic resistances) Door Leaf Type (Thickness dictated by the fire resitance set in the host) Door Furniture type (Door furniture set on the door leaf type)
We intend to have 'Door Furniture' nested in the 'Door Leaf' Nested in the overall 'Door Assembly'
There is another potential set of Types for the Door Frame / Architrave - which for the moment we have only as Profiles with their own parameters.
It does seem to be getting very complication, with lots of Types and I'm not sure whether that approach is worth the time in setting it up.
I was chatting to someone who says they deal with most of the parameters as instances within a handful of Door Types (1 Type for each main elevation appearance for a door, so 1 type may have instances of FD30, FD60, FD00, Veneer Finish, Laminated Finish etc.) This seems far simpler than our approach, but I'm not sure on the trade offs in flexibility.
I was hoping to set up a door family set that we could use from project to project that has quite a bit of flexibility. How do you arrange your doors / schedules in a typical project ?
I have some generic labels inside families to display parameters. These work but they seem to randomly disapear.
I thought it was only happening when families were joined as when I unjoined the offending families the labels were visible again but then after closing and opening the view some of the labels have disapeared again.
If I copy this family to a new location the labels will be visible.
Am getting warning "None of the created elements are visible in Floor Plan: 00 GF View. You may want to check the active view, its Parameters, and Visibility settings, as well as any Plan Regions and their settings". Phase settings are correct, no hidden elements etc. Cannot add anything by create similar, build panel. Its Revit 2013 - I have been getting a lot of cannot continue crashes but is this a forthcoming fix issue?
On a large 2012 drawing, suddenly the entire drawing is half tone and every object is locked. When you try to select an object, the little lock symbol apprears next to the cursor. I must have done something inadvertantly to lock the entire drawing, but I can not find any command or reference to unlock the drawing. This problem is also unique to this drawing.
I have made gridlines and put them on a locked layer. I want to be able to see them and snap to them, but I don't want to select them. Their selectability is hindering my ability to select objects on other layers. Is there any way to make lines on locked layers not selectable? (I don't like the Autocad standard grid.)
