Revit :: Setting Up Door Families / Schedules In Typical Project
Sep 24, 2013
This is linked to me previous door query. We are working in a bit of a vacuum here and I am really interested to see how people set up their door families / types / instances for scheduling - as we are struggling to identify a 'best practice' approach.
At present we have set up a host family for the doorset that contains the opening and framing, with a nested doof leaf family in which is nested a door furniture family (and possibly vision panel face hosted family as well). It seems quite complicated, and in the current setup all the door / frame / leaf parameters are established in the door Type, and we have no Instance parameters other than Mark, level etc.
We are trying to set up a system where we will have Types for:
Main Door Assembly Type (dictates the frame type, overall fire and acoustic resistances)
Door Leaf Type (Thickness dictated by the fire resitance set in the host)
Door Furniture type (Door furniture set on the door leaf type)
We intend to have 'Door Furniture' nested in the 'Door Leaf' Nested in the overall 'Door Assembly'
There is another potential set of Types for the Door Frame / Architrave - which for the moment we have only as Profiles with their own parameters.
It does seem to be getting very complication, with lots of Types and I'm not sure whether that approach is worth the time in setting it up.
I was chatting to someone who says they deal with most of the parameters as instances within a handful of Door Types (1 Type for each main elevation appearance for a door, so 1 type may have instances of FD30, FD60, FD00, Veneer Finish, Laminated Finish etc.) This seems far simpler than our approach, but I'm not sure on the trade offs in flexibility.
I was hoping to set up a door family set that we could use from project to project that has quite a bit of flexibility. How do you arrange your doors / schedules in a typical project ?
I have ACAD Arch 2012 and I am trying to associate my door tags with my door schedule and visa versa. I get as far as creating the Door Schedule with all the doors on it and quantified just the way you would want to see it; however, the "Mark" remains "A" for every door. I discovered that I can change the Mark on the extended properties of each door, but I believe there should be a better (and more linked) way to accomplish this. Since the program already recognizes how many doors there are of a specific style it should be able to put sequential "marks" to each door, for example "A", "B", "C", etc.
what's the difference between Door Tags - Project Based and regular Door Tags?
If i delete a family from the project browser, under families expanded folder group, will this delete them from the project and reduce the file size?
Best way to delete just unwanted families that have been loaded into the model?
I know of purging the model but i believe this will potentially delete tags i may want and other information that just not being utilized at the time of purge.
How to restore families purged from a project? Specifically, a new user purged everything not in use from the model, and is now unable to place a 2x2 ACT ceiling. Drawing one in another file and pasting into the model has no effect. This family is not listed in the Imperial Library; is there some other location for these system families?
i have created a door schedule and it seems to be missing the most important part, the sizes! When I go into Style Manager and click on the door shcedule and try to add columns size does NOT come up as a choice. I have added size to the property sets of the doors. I have tried everything I can remember from older versions of Autocad and it just won't put in this bit of information.
i have created a door schedule and it seems to be missing the most important part, the sizes! When I go into Style Manager and click on the door shcedule and try to add columns size does NOT come up as a choice. I have added size to the property sets of the doors.
ACA 2012: Is it possible to add a column to my door and window schedules that automatically shows the area of the door/window(or area of Glazing) and then have a total area column at the bottom of the column?
All my layers are turned on, when in an existing drawing my schedules do not appear when I use the tool to create them. When I open a new drawing draw a wall and a couple doors, the schedule inserts when I use the annotate tool. I am only using a basic floor plan at the moment, no xrefs or anything else, simple walls and doors and inserted from the program. I did use tags for the doors and windows which worked fine.
We were updating the wall finish schedule in our template. Now using the template, if we create a new room, it's number is 3. Where is the setting that controls what the next available room number is?
How can the dimensions for the system family door be shown in the door schedule?
I tried to make a instance paramater, type parameter, both through shared parameter for the doors in the family file, but they are still not showing up.
Fiddling around with schedules, I found a workaround to set the row height. Simply:
1 - Add a field which doesnt' contain any data to the schedule; 2 - In the schedule view, select the field's column and in the appearance tab, define a font size to whatever size of rows you would like. 3 - When you now add the schedule to a sheet, you can see that the height of each row is bigger 4 - If you selected to show gridlines, you can define the newly added column in the schedule view to have no borders
And that's my workaround. It's way better than adding spaces and adjusting widths.
I have an issue where filtering my framing member schedules per Level by, for example, Level equals LEVEL 3 causes the entire schedule to be filtered to empty. We clearly have members constrained to and occuring on LEVEL 3.
The same happens when filtering for, say, at or above LEVEL 3, but interestingly not at or below LEVEL 3, in which case nothing happens -- that is, it still displays members clearly occuring only on and constrained to Reference LEVEL 5.
I am working on a project doing cost estimating and product specification for interiors. First project ever using Revit!
In my "Wall Finish Schedule" I need to show the finish material, the Area (SF) and cost. For tile on the wall I have created basic walls which works great. For my painted walls I used the split face tool and applied the material with the paint tool. Double checking the SF calculations for the applied paint - they are incorrect and seem to calculate the whole wall instead of the split area with material applied.
What is the best solution to properly apply wall materials so they schedule properly?
I am using Revit 2013 and I am wondering if there is any easy way of getting my generic model schedules to get the length of the object without having to manually type it in?!
I have attached 2 images to explain what I am talking about. I have created my own countertops and decided for scheduling purposes it would work best to have them as generic models. As you can see from the "Counter Top Properties" image that it has the length of my countertop in the program, but as the "Counter top Schedule" Images shows I can not choose "Length" as an available field. I had to create a parameter for the length ("Length of Unit"), which is just a dimension parameter, and I have to type in manually what the length is. Is there a way to get my schedule to get that length dimension automatically without having to manually type it in!?
I created schedules inc. cost for Light fixtures, Lighting control etc. For each of the 3 schedules I was able to add the cost (based on the cost I put into the family). The problems I'm having are:
if i show the cost in the schedule view, it will show up on the sheet set. i just want to use if for cost estimating, but not show on the plans (i don't want to manually hide/un-hide all the time when i want to see the cost) - i could duplicate that schedule and hide the cos columns on the one i put on the sheet. but that seems archaic and doubles the number of schedules i don't see a way to combine the cost. Right now I only have 3 schedules and can add those up in my head, but like to automatically do that for many schedules. i know i could export to Excel.. but that takes away the whole "Revise instantly" idea and I want to be able to see right away what cost changes when I add or delete items.
I created a keyplan as a generic annotation family, with masked regions representing the various segments of the building. For some reason, my palette of hatches within this family template is very limited, and I cannot choose a dotted pattern for the masked regions, which is an informal company standard.
From what I've seen, adding new hatches is a cumbersome process. Since a simple dot pattern is available in project files though, is there a simple way to add that hatch to this family file?
I am trying to take a countertop that I have in this bathroom remodel floor plan and place it onto a separate sheet so that I can send it out for pricing. I created a new sheet "countertop details" However, it is not letting me add it - I keep getting this warning "Can't create this kind of element in this view in the current mode." I know the answer is in one of the parameters but I am still trying to get used to this program and teaching myself.
I have a pile family where i have created a Shared Text parameter under Identity data called Vert Load. I have nested this into a pile cap family in several locations and have the same Shared Text parameter. If i select the pile in the pile cap family i have the option to put a value in the properties dialogue box under Vert Load. The pile cap family is now loaded into my project and the parameters shared in the project. When i select the Pile cap in my project then i have the option to add a value for the Vert Load but in this pile cap i have 3 piles and i want to give different values for each. When i select an individual pile within the Pile cap family then the Vert Load value is greyed out.
I want these vert Loads to appear in a schedule... I've attached a couple of images.
I am doing a window nested family with two windows that have three voids to perform the wrapping of the stucco layer and the gypsum layer independently, but in the nested family I get a wall sleeve between both windows. I have used voids with parameters in the nested family, but when inserted in the projects the voids don't cut anything. See the images.
I'm putting various doors together, and we have a variety of frame types / door leaf combinations - including occasions where door leafs are inserted in glazed screens (These are timber doors / screens).
It seems to make sense to have the door leaf as a family, then nest those into hosted door frame / screen family. This would allow the 3 or 4 different door leaf types to be switched into the frame / screen combos.
The principal seems to work - but before embarking on the process of putting these together, are there any consequences that should deter me, or that I need to take into consideration ?
What determines the default elevation when inserting familes? I have a wall hosted family that always defaults to 4'-0". I have tried setting the default elevation in the family but it always defaults back to 4'. I have this issue with other familes as well.
I know I can set the elevation when I insert it but having to so that every time seems pointless when the elevation will never change for a family.
