AutoCad :: Finding The Right Scale For Plotting
Apr 15, 2011
I am attempting to plot a site plan for a large single family home property (2 lots at 200'x329') to an ARCH D (24x36) sheet and have set up the paper space and a title block template to fit this. I set up a new viewport inside the tile block template to take up all the open space inside it.
Our professor provided us the survey from which we're doing our drawings and has asked for us to plot in 1:20 scale(1"=20'), so I have input 1:240 (1" = 240") in the layout scale menu. The site plan to be plotted fits, but much too small to be acceptable. It takes up only maybe a third of the viewport, when it should fill the viewport (the sheet) for the most part.
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May 2, 2013
Is there a way to find out if the drawing was in a scale other than 1:1 when it was originally drawn?
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Aug 4, 2012
i want to ask is there any scale factor function in Autodesk Inventor 2012?
this is because all my drawed part are already full constrained and I want to enlarge it to some factor?
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Dec 27, 2013
I am still confused when it comes to My units and plotting to scale. If I want my drawing at 1/8" scale what would I set my units to and what would I set my scale to when plotting?
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Apr 2, 2011
I have drawn a 2D 'ruler' 250 units by 50 units and drawn 10mm marks along the edge of the ruler with the last section divided into 1mm marks.
When I plot the drawing, setting the scale in the properties box to 1:1 or 1:2 (or whatever scale I choose) then selecting File, Plot etc, (leaving the scale in the 'Plot Scale' section of the dialog box as shown - normally 1:1) the resulting plot is slightly smaller than expected. What should be say 200mm is more like 199 mm.
I am using AutoCad 2007 and a local domestic type printer (HP type) connected via a USB line.
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Jan 25, 2011
I am putting together a catalog with some drawings from AC 2010. I am drawing in model space and printing in paper space. The view port scale is 1:1. If I print directly from Autocad to the printer, everything is fine. If I first plot to PDF from Autocad and then print, the dimensions are off by about 1/8". The dimensions read correctly, but they do not measure correctly. The paper size is 8 1/2 x 11. I would like these PDF files to be accurate in case someone needs to print them.
I have tried saving to dwf and then printing and printing out of Design Review but it doesn't make any difference. My settings in Adobe are 1:1 as far as I can tell.
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Apr 30, 2013
If i am using Image scale and want to downsize a 200 kb photo to a 50 kb photo, is there some sort of ratio i can use so that I don't have to guess at the kb size I will wind up with.
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Sep 25, 2012
when i go to preview plot after selecting D size, scale isn't correct. how do i change to correct scale for plotting after i've scaled each view in paper space. please see attached drawing.
Any good free tutorial online about viewports and plotting from them and to get correct scale?
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Mar 13, 2013
I've got a question about plotting to a measurable PDF with the correct scale.
Currently, if you plot to PDF (ARCH full bleed D 24x36 paper size) using 1:1 scale of the Layout area (including viewport, title block, etc) you get a nice PDF of the appropriate plan which would print to paper at the correct scale (1/16" = 1' 0'). If you set the plot scale to 1/16" = 1' 0' then preview/plot it then it appears completely tiny (like 2% of the page size), in the bottom left corner.
However, I want to make the PDF measurable. At the moment, if you do this using a 1:1 plot, the default numbers given by the measure tool are way out of proportion (a 29' dimension in the drawing is measured as 48,294 with no units). To get it to give accurate measurements, you have to tell Reader/Acrobat to ignore document scaling in preferences, then "Change Scale Ratio" to the appropriate scale ratio (0.625 in = 1 ft). This means you can measure to scale in Reader or Acrobat BUT these options disappear once you close Reader/Acrobat.
creating measurable PDFs from Autocad plots?
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Aug 9, 2011
My drawing inb model space looks fine, however when I try to set it up to plot in paper space, via the properties box with the "correct scale factor" and the drawing becomes very large. The only scale I can get the drawing to plot at is "fit to page", which is no scale. I have tried to set the scale on the "page setup" and the same thing happens.
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Aug 21, 2012
I'm trying to plot a simple site plan to PDF through the DWG to PDF.pc3 option.
The scale in my model space is 1-1 and in my viewport in paper space 1-200.
The issue is I plot to PDF, and then the scale is way out. For example an object that should be 10,000mm long in model space appears as 59mm (11,800mm scaled) on the PDF. And of course when I print from the PDF to a printer this scale error carries over.
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Oct 16, 2011
First, when I have a drawing to scale in millimeters and want to put its attributes, the amnotations come out extremely small. It's caused me so many headaches. the units have been set to millimeters, limits from 0,0 to 200-150 ish. Drawing a small drawing within those limits tried very, very small annotations that you can't see unless you zoom 200 times in. I don't have that problem when drawing in inches though. Annotations come out great in inches.
The second problem is that, after I complete a drawing in millimeters and I want to copy and paste it onto my template (also drawn in millimeters to fit a 12-9 paper) the drawing comes out HUGE. At least 100 times bigger than the 1:1 scale should be. When I draw and plot in inches, the 1:1 copy onto a template comes out perfect, but for some reason it always does that in millimeters. I tried placing a block over the template with the "model" to scale and that looks closest to the proper 1:1 scale. I double checked on both the drawing and the template that their 1:1, they seemed fine so I printed. When I measured with a ruler it was still off by a bit.
What I can do to make annotating and plotting in millimeters as easy as with inches?
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Jun 21, 2011
Is there anyway to determine how much a piece of artistic text has been changed in it's X-Scale? If I insert some text into my drawing using the Text tool, then grab the left handle and drag it in, I see the X-Scale: in the status bar go from 100% to whatever I drop it at. But if I go back to that piece of text, or select another piece that was compressed or expanded, and try the same trick, the scale factor resets back to 100%.
How can I determine the amount of change from the initial font the text has changed after the fact? None of the property boxes show you this information.
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Sep 27, 2013
Any way to get a scale bar/title block text to reflect plotting at half size?
We use the common (24x36) sheet size for all projects, but when plotting we send out half size (12x18) as well. This means the scale bar reading 1"=40' is no longer correct. It should read 1"=20'. I would like to automate this.
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Feb 26, 2013
I'm attempting to plot a drawing with a 3d shape and a title block around it. I would like for the occluded lines to not be drawn therefore I'm using the hidden visual style and set shade plot to hidden as well.
My problem arises from the quality of the plot to PDF versus the quality coming out of a printer. It is just a 8.5x11 page. The pdf comes out with horrible anti-aliasing and jagged lines, whereas the print is entirely smooth. Is there something simple I'm missing? It would be even better to find a way to make the plot to PDF come out in vector format! I know it is possible to show the layers and have them vectorized in a PDF... How is this done?
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Apr 13, 2012
I have just updated to Autocad 2013. While working on existing drawings (previously created in V2012), I am having issues with the SCALE command. Most times, but not always, when I add a line or block, with a base point on an existing line or object and try to scale it, I get an "extremely small scale factor ignored" message, although I did not get a chance to enter a scale factor. While it appears most times, but not always, if I draw a new line in empty space on that same drawing, I am able to use the SCALE command without problems. I also have the same issue when trying to scale an existing line or block, most times but not always.
Here is a copy of the command line while I am trying to make it work:
Command: l
LINE
Specify first point:
Specify next point or [Undo]: 100
Specify next point or [Undo]:
Command: sc
SCALE
Select objects: 1 found
Select objects:
Specify base point:
Specify scale factor or [Copy/Reference]:
Extremely small scale factor ignored.
Command:
SCALE
Select objects: Specify opposite corner: 1 found
Select objects: Specify opposite corner: 1 found, 2 total
Select objects:
Specify base point:
Specify scale factor or [Copy/Reference]:
Extremely small scale factor ignored.
If you notice, it does not give me the chance to enter a scale factor. As soon as I pick the base point, it skips over to the error message, yet displays the scale factor prompt with a blank factor. I'm experiencing this issue on various files (not all but most), so I don't think it is a corrupt file. Why I get this and if I can correct it?
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Jun 26, 2009
am in the process of setting up a standard file for all designers to use our local office. This file will have most of the styles created for profiles, alignments, surfaces, profile views, etc... as mostly specified by the customer and industry standards.
I am having trouble maintaining the correct annotation scale in the viewport in paperspace and when plotting.
The attached word document has 3 figures. Fig 1 shows the correct viewport scale and correct annotation scale. Fig 2 shows how the annotation scale abruptly changes during the plotting process. This abrupt annotation scale change sometimes happens during the regen process or when I switch from layout to model space and back to layout.The annotation scale goes from 1:1 to 1:40 just as in the viewport. This change in annotation scale is not supposed to happen because I want to preserve a certain plotting height for my text versus a viewport scale by using various annotation scales.
I have researched the procedures for annotation scale and have not found any info related to this "abrupt change in annotation scale".
Curiously , this abrupt change in annotation scale does not happen if the text does not belong to any styles within Civil 3D. Stand alone text stays at the correct annotation scale and is not affected in the same way.
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Jun 27, 2012
We have recently noticed that after printing a PDF of a drawing I plotted from AutoCAD we are coming up with differences when we double check the scale on the printed hardcopy using a carpenter ruler.
For example, there is a dimension labeled on the drawing of 200 ft. However, if I try to scale this out with a carpenter's ruler at the drawing was set to (say for instance it is 1 inch = 100 ft) I am coming up short of the 2 inches it should be (typically come up around an 1-15/16" or around 194 feet, approx 97% of the correct amount).
In the Page Setup Manager in AutoCAD, I have the following options selected (see the print screen as well):
Printer/plotter selected: DWG to PDF.pc3
Paper Size: ANSI full bleed B (11.00 x 17.00 Inches)
What to Plot: Layout
I don't have a plot scale scale other than the default 1" = 1'
No plot style selected
Then, on the print menu when I open the PDF that I have exported from AutoCAD, I have the following settings (see the print screens I have attached):
Printer: The printer I use (Konica Minolta c650 Series PCL)
And I have selected the Options "Auto Rotate and Center" and "Choose paper source by PDF page size**"
** Note, that I have tried unselecting the "Choose paper source by PDF page size" option and accordingly changed the paper size in the "Page Setup..." button at the btoom to match the document size (i.e. 11.0 x 17.0in) and it gets the difference to be closer (i.e. I now get 198 ft but some of my border gets cut off). See the print screen below for this a print screen of the print menu and sub-menu of Page Setup showing the paper size selected.
I saw that some people in other forums state that there is no real solution when trying to scale off of PDF's and that there should be a disclaimer saying as much if you are to send the file out to a customer who may rely on doing some in the field scaling from the printed copy of the PDF file. I find it hard to believe there is no solution as we have received some drawings from others whom the scaling works just fine.
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Jun 27, 2013
When I open a new drawing in my AutoCAD 2013 that I just recently installed last week, I encounter a problem that I am not familiar with from previus versions of AutoCAD I have worked on. First of all, the units default to decimal, and I want them to default to architectural, with feet and inches. I have to type UNITS in the command line every time I open a new drawing in order to adjust this. I have AutoCAD for Architecture 2012 on another computer, and the program automatically defaults to architectural units upon opening up. Just to let you know, the program I am having this difficulty with is part of a package called Autodesk Building Design Suite 2013. I was under the impression that it included AutoCAd for Architecture, but I think it has only standard AutoCAD.
The scale of the objects I draw vs. the scale of the drawing field is very out of proportion. What I mean is, when I open a new drawing and draw a 30' -0" line, the line appears so long on the screen that I cannot see the whole object, even if I zoom out to the maximum. I should be able to see the object in it's entirety. In fact, when I draw a line that is only 12" long, even when the zoom is all the way out, the line looks huge in length. I have tried adjusting the units to the architectural/inches setting of course, and I have tried adjusting the scale in model space from 1:1 to 1/4'=1'-0", but nothing is working.
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Aug 9, 2012
I am working on automating page setups in model space and am looking for a way to set the plot scale equal to the annotation scale for scaled drawings with
(setvar "filedia" 0)
(setq a (getstring (getvar "cannoscale")))
(command "-plot" "YES" "MODEL" "" "" "" "" "" "" !A "" "" "" "" "" "" "_Y" "_N")
Setting the plot scale with !A causes the lisp to fail. However, when running each prompt through the command line individually, !A works fine. what is missing?
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Nov 22, 2013
I am trying to insert a block into a file in Acad 2014 and it comes in too large. If I insert the same block into the same file using Acad 2012 it comes in at the correct scale. Doesn't seem to matter if insunits is 0 or 1, or insunitsdefsource or insunitsdeftarget are also 0 or 1.
There must be some variable or variables I'm missing.
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Mar 29, 2011
I have a Viewport set to scale 1:100 and the Viewport is locked.The Annotation Scale displayed in the Viewport was 1:50.
When I clicked on the Synchronize Icon beside the Viewport Scale, the Viewport Scale changed, even though the Viewport was locked.
I was expecting the Annotation Scale to synchronize to the Viewport Scale.
Is this how it is supposed to work? and why does a locked Viewport Scale change?
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Apr 19, 2013
I have a block that i would like to scale based on the plot scale when plotting.
We set up our drawings full size and occasionally we want to plot them at half size. We do this by setting the plot scale to 1:2 (custom) in the plotting dialog. We have a few blocks that we want to print at the same size on paper, essentially become twice as big.
Is there is a way to fix the size or just set a few scale states and have them automatically adjust based on the plot scale (not drawing/annotative scale)?
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Nov 8, 2013
I have a drawing with several layouts, and in one particular layout only, I want the text to be smaller than the annotation scale would dictate (the viewport is 1"=300', but I want the text to display at 1"=50' annotation scale).
I tried selecting the viewport and changing the "annotation scale" property to 1"=50', then the "standard scale" property to 1"=300'.
Strangely, this seems to work for a bunch of MText objects I have in the drawing, but it won't work for an alignment station label group or for a particular linetype...for some reason, those two things insist on having their annotation scale equal to the viewport scale.
I tried messing around with the alignment station label group's style but couldn't figure anything out. As far as the line/linetype, I'm completely at a loss why that one wouldn't change.
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Apr 15, 2013
I have a 3D part, which I want to scale down to 0.5 the size in X and Y direcions, but I don't want to scale it down in Z direction.
Is this even possible? How do I go about doing it?
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Sep 6, 2013
AutoCAD 2013 2D - when scrolling the viewport scale list, the viewport zooms with each scale instantly.
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Mar 15, 2011
I work in autocad 2010 and I draw in scale 1:1 . What an annotation scale is, moreover I have never used annotative objects in my drawings.
Nonetheless, when I try to plot a drawing, while I am in the model view, I choose the scale in mm/units, I select the plot area and when I press preview or plot, I get the message THE ANNOTATION SCALE IS NOT EQUAL TO THE PLOT SCALE. DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE?
I press yes, I print it and the outcome is always a bit smaller than it should be.
When i am in the layout mode and I try to plot, I dont get this message. But I dont know how scaling works in this case. For example I want to plot in a A4 paper, scale 1:100. So I type 1000mm/100units, as I did in the model mode, but the result is wrong.
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Apr 10, 2013
I would like to find a lisp that changes the scale of something that has an annotative scale and deletes all other scales in the object scale list. Often i have many different scales of existing dimensions or objects. i waste a lot of time opening the annotation object scale dialogue box, selecting add, finding my scale and deleting the old scale.
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Apr 10, 2013
I have trouble figuring out dash lines. If i change global scale factor or current object scale in a spedific paper space,
the other page will be affected...
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Feb 7, 2013
My scale list has metric list on it as it suppose to have both metric and imperial scale.
Screen shot..
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Jul 8, 2004
I am having some problems getting the hang of applying the drawing scale to my assignment. I understand the scale factor that is applicable to the printing only and that AutoCAD doesn't care about the units used...but something is not clicking here and I'm sure it is pretty simple. My assignment requires me to draw 3 simple structures at 1/8" scale on 11X17 paper. Each house is 20' long with 10' walls and each is done in absolute, relative, and polar. I actually completed the work with all 3 formats without specifying the scale or paper size, just to get familiar with the commands. But now that I am trying to set the dimensions correctly, I cannot replicate my work because I'm getting lost in the way things are defined. I am using AutoCAD 2005, also have a 2002 version to which I can defer.
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